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> Automatic Transmission, do automatics have a clutch?
djtouner
post Aug 28 2008, 06:22 PM
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do automatics have a clutch? if they do when the clutch is finished do you change it like you do in a manual trans?
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post Aug 28 2008, 06:47 PM
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not a clutch. a torque converter. its hard to explain how it works so ill wait till some one else does it.
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post Aug 28 2008, 08:58 PM
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Automatic do in fact have several clutches and once their gone you have the transmission rebuilt or replaced.
However concerning the torque converter (which allows for it to idle in gear)one side of the torque converter is driven at flywheel speed.There is a fan-like series of blades around the entire driven side .These blades push the transmission fluids against a reciprocal set of blades connected to the drive spline of the transmissiom.The number of blades and pitch angle at which they are set determines how much "slip" occurs until the second set reaches the speed and torque of the first .Usually torque starts coming in at around 1000-1200 rpm and full on around 1300-1800.
Newer vehicles (ours included) have an electronic "lockup "device that holds the front and back together(OD) depending on load,rpm,throttle positionect.
That's why when the accelerator is pushed downward quickly the OD unlocks allowing the engine to rev during the shift downward to a lower gear keeping the engine in the torque band.
Hope this helps as it is just a basic overlook and not very detailed. :beer:
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post Aug 28 2008, 09:06 PM
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eh *shrugs* i thought about that after and i was like, wow im soooo wrong
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post Aug 28 2008, 09:23 PM
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The automatic transmission is a terribly complex device, your summary sounds good to me Tango. :thumbsup:
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post Aug 29 2008, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(Tango2Go @ Aug 28 2008, 08:58 PM)
Automatic do in fact have several clutches and once their gone you have the transmission rebuilt or replaced.
However concerning the torque converter (which allows for it to idle in gear)one side of the torque converter is driven at flywheel speed.There is a fan-like series of blades around the entire driven side .These blades push the transmission fluids against a reciprocal set of blades connected to the drive spline of the transmissiom.The number of blades and pitch angle at which they are set determines how much "slip" occurs until the second set reaches the speed and torque of the first .Usually torque starts coming in at around 1000-1200 rpm and full on around 1300-1800.
Newer vehicles (ours included) have an electronic "lockup "device that holds the front and back together(OD) depending on load,rpm,throttle positionect.
That's why when the accelerator is pushed downward quickly the OD unlocks allowing the engine to rev during the shift downward to a lower gear keeping the engine in the torque band.
Hope this helps as it is just a basic overlook and not very detailed. :beer:
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post Aug 29 2008, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(hoosieraccent @ Aug 28 2008, 08:23 PM)
The automatic transmission is a terribly complex device, your summary sounds good to me Tango. :thumbsup:
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... yeah i hate auto trans. heck, i hate manual trans too
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post Aug 29 2008, 08:03 AM
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LOL, nobodies.. if you hate both of those, you'll need to find you something with a CVT. :grin:
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post Aug 29 2008, 09:59 AM
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lol, i'm with nobodies.. had no clue ;\
thanks tango
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post Aug 29 2008, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(hoosieraccent @ Aug 29 2008, 09:03 AM)
LOL, nobodies..  if you hate both of those, you'll need to find you something with a CVT. :grin:
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When I was looking for a new car, I saw a 2007 Dodge Caliber with CVT (continuously variable transmission), but it only gets 29 MPG Highway, so **** that.
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QUOTE(bloodninja @ Aug 29 2008, 10:15 AM)
When I was looking for a new car, I saw a 2007 Dodge Caliber with CVT (continuously variable transmission), but it only gets 29 MPG Highway, so **** that.
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ahh man, you jsut pulled litesong's string lololol
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post Aug 30 2008, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(nobodieshero07 @ Aug 29 2008, 12:40 AM)
... yeah i hate auto trans. heck, i hate manual trans too
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ya me too i love automatic cause i can hold my drink or food on one hand and be lazy but easy to fall asleep but Manual is fun to drive and no drinks or food and more focus on driving
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post Aug 30 2008, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(mrblank @ Aug 30 2008, 08:49 PM)
ya me too i love automatic cause i can hold my drink or food on one hand and be lazy but easy to fall asleep  but Manual is fun to drive and no drinks or food and more focus on driving
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lol, you're funny man
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post Aug 30 2008, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(Tango2Go @ Aug 28 2008, 08:58 PM)
Automatic do in fact have several clutches and once their gone you have the transmission rebuilt or replaced.
However concerning the torque converter (which allows for it to idle in gear)one side of the torque converter is driven at flywheel speed.There is a fan-like series of blades around the entire driven side .These blades push the transmission fluids against a reciprocal set of blades connected to the drive spline of the transmissiom.The number of blades and pitch angle at which they are set determines how much "slip" occurs until the second set reaches the speed and torque of the first .Usually torque starts coming in at around 1000-1200 rpm and full on around 1300-1800.
Newer vehicles (ours included) have an electronic "lockup "device that holds the front and back together(OD) depending on load,rpm,throttle positionect.
That's why when the accelerator is pushed downward quickly the OD unlocks allowing the engine to rev during the shift downward to a lower gear keeping the engine in the torque band.
Hope this helps as it is just a basic overlook and not very detailed. :beer:
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:liebe011: you teached me a lot
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post Aug 31 2008, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(djtouner @ Aug 30 2008, 11:50 PM)
lol, you're funny man
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wanna hear something funny i been pull over more than 10 times for Drinking Arizona Ice Tea which is a can and same size of beer can every time i got pull over i had to blow the meter thing and i get to keep the month piece everytime =D which i have a dozen of them in my glove box I love joking around with police : am i supposed to suck or blow XD

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djtouner
post Aug 31 2008, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(mrblank @ Aug 31 2008, 12:06 AM)
wanna hear something funny i been pull over more than 10 times for Drinking Arizona Ice Tea which is a can and same size of beer can every time i got pull over i had to blow  the meter thing and i get to keep the month piece everytime =D which i have a dozen of them in my glove box I love joking around with police : am i supposed to suck or blow XD

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lol, that's clever, real clever
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post Sep 2 2008, 02:34 AM
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Thanx guys .
It's really much more complicated than that,but way too much to get into here.
I learned from researching parts and such when I had my 70 and 1/2 Camaro,built to the hilt 350,built to bark the tires into 3rd 350turbo trans w/2600 stall racing converter,and 411 positive traction rear end. Ah those were the days!Smokem for the first 150 foot and still turn low 8's at 84 in an eigth. :innocent:
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post Sep 2 2008, 09:21 PM
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manual trannies are so much easier to deal with. Easier to tear-down and rebuild, and easier to maintain.
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