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 Aug 12 2008, 12:46 AM
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Okay, so today I am getting onto Interstate 19 heading south toward Tucson. I started noticing that I could not accelerate fast enough to enter the freeway at speed. My tranny has shifted clear down to 3rd gear, the engine rpm is high and still I cannot get up to the required 75 mph.
All of a sudden the car seems as though it is in an earthquake. My azera begins to shudder as though I have several flat tires all at once.
I continued for another quarter mile until I came to an exit hoping the car would make it. Eventually, I got to the exit and was able to get off of the Interstate and safely park far to the right.
I got out of the car and noticed my right front and left rear wheels were smoking quite profusely. In fact, I was even concerned that there may be a fire. UNFORTUNATELY, that did not happen.
My first instinct was to call the Hyundai towing service. Approximately 20 minutes later, a tow truck arrived. The driver lifted my Azera onto the truck and off we go to my Hyundai dealer in Green Valley Az.
My Hyundai mechanic, Tim, at Jim Click Ford, Hyundai, inspected the damage and said the right front and left rear rotors and brake pads will have to be replaced because they were fried.
Upon checking the computer code, he found no reading. In other words, he does not know why this occured and can only guess one of two things. Either the brake fluid began to boil due to foreign matter in the brake lines or the two wheels involved had malfunctioning sensors. A crap shoot at best.
Never the less, Hyundai will be covering all expenses for the repair, including a car rental from Enterprise. Hyundai is paying for a very nice 2008 Toyota Sienna van for as long as my Azera is being held hostage by the dealer. This is a very nice van that rides as nice as the Azera and handles much better. Excuse me, I digress.
Now to cover a continuing saga regarding Hyundai Corporate and me.
I have been working directly with Hyundai Corporation in southern California regarding the poor handling of my 07 Azera, including the extremely soft front suspension. I truly thought my next visit to the dealership was going to be for that problem. Was I ever surprised.
I do, however, expect to have some news about the soft suspension solution soon, but for now, the brakes have to be repaired.
Please don't ask me any questions regarding the suspension solution just yet. I will report on that just as soon as I can.
Stay tuned.
David <><
This post has been edited by david-paul-1: Aug 12 2008, 05:44 PM
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Aug 12 2008, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(david-paul-1 @ Aug 11 2008, 10:46 PM) I got out of the car and noticed my right front and left rear wheels were smoking quite profusely.
In fact, I was even concerned that there may be a fire. UNFORTUNATELY, that did not happen.
David <>< [right][snapback]182427[/snapback][/right] :) Good one DP. :laughing: :thumbsup:
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Aug 13 2008, 04:30 PM
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The diagonal pattern indicates that the microprocessor felt the need to engage 1/2 of the brake system, for some reason, or more likely the hydrolics for that half didn't release from the last time the brakes were applied.. The braking system is split into two, one front/one rear on the diagonal, so if half your braking system dies, you can still stop with the other half without pulling to one side or the other...
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Aug 24 2008, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE(david-paul-1 @ Aug 11 2008, 10:46 PM) Okay, so today I am getting onto Interstate 19 heading south toward Tucson. I started noticing that I could not accelerate fast enough to enter the freeway at speed. My tranny has shifted clear down to 3rd gear, the engine rpm is high and still I cannot get up to the required 75 mph.
All of a sudden the car seems as though it is in an earthquake. My azera begins to shudder as though I have several flat tires all at once.
I continued for another quarter mile until I came to an exit hoping the car would make it. Eventually, I got to the exit and was able to get off of the Interstate and safely park far to the right.
I got out of the car and noticed my right front and left rear wheels were smoking quite profusely. In fact, I was even concerned that there may be a fire. UNFORTUNATELY, that did not happen.
My first instinct was to call the Hyundai towing service. Approximately 20 minutes later, a tow truck arrived. The driver lifted my Azera onto the truck and off we go to my Hyundai dealer in Green Valley Az.
My Hyundai mechanic, Tim, at Jim Click Ford, Hyundai, inspected the damage and said the right front and left rear rotors and brake pads will have to be replaced because they were fried.
Upon checking the computer code, he found no reading. In other words, he does not know why this occured and can only guess one of two things. Either the brake fluid began to boil due to foreign matter in the brake lines or the two wheels involved had malfunctioning sensors. A crap shoot at best.
Never the less, Hyundai will be covering all expenses for the repair, including a car rental from Enterprise. Hyundai is paying for a very nice 2008 Toyota Sienna van for as long as my Azera is being held hostage by the dealer. This is a very nice van that rides as nice as the Azera and handles much better. Excuse me, I digress.
Now to cover a continuing saga regarding Hyundai Corporate and me.
I have been working directly with Hyundai Corporation in southern California regarding the poor handling of my 07 Azera, including the extremely soft front suspension. I truly thought my next visit to the dealership was going to be for that problem. Was I ever surprised.
I do, however, expect to have some news about the soft suspension solution soon, but for now, the brakes have to be repaired.
Please don't ask me any questions regarding the suspension solution just yet. I will report on that just as soon as I can.
Stay tuned.
David <><
[right][snapback]182427[/snapback][/right]
Under warranty, dealer replaced ABS module, master cylinder, 2 rotors, all brake pads, turned two rotors, drained and replaced all brake fluid. Brakes now work perfectly. Hyundai tech and service manager said this was a rare occurrence. David <><
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 Aug 24 2008, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(mahout @ Aug 21 2008, 05:26 AM) David:
You may have noticed the many posts about the soft front suspwension.
It's not the shocks, it's the springs.
Cutting one coil from each of the front springs will cure the washy front suspension.
And yes the rear shocks are a bit soft and heavier duty shocks will improve the handling considerably.
PS Dropping one front coil drops the front by about 5/8" which makes the Azera sit level.
If you want to see how that works, go to you tube's "Hyundai Sundae at VIR".
[right][snapback]184293[/snapback][/right] :) Do you or anyone who has done this have any pictures to post? I'm interested in which end of the spring in cut and the exact angle of the cut. Your video is really something. I get a kick every time I watch it. Would you have any later ones? See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqRJrqI5DkU:liebe011:
This post has been edited by snaglepus: Aug 24 2008, 09:47 PM
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Aug 28 2008, 06:42 AM
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QUOTE(david-paul-1 @ Aug 24 2008, 03:11 AM) Under warranty, dealer replaced ABS module, master cylinder, 2 rotors, all brake pads, turned two rotors, drained and replaced all brake fluid.
Brakes now work perfectly.
Hyundai tech and service manager said this was a rare occurrence.
David <><
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RARE... but not UNPRECEDENTED?!!?!?!??!??! :puzzled:
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Aug 28 2008, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(andyman32 @ Aug 28 2008, 04:42 AM) RARE... but not UNPRECEDENTED?!!?!?!??!??! :puzzled:
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:) What he was reffering to was DP's Azera brake problem, and not what the dealer did for him. What else could the dealer do but correct all of those brake problems? After all, wasn't this a big safety issue? :puzzled: :amen:
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Aug 30 2008, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE(snaglepus @ Aug 28 2008, 09:14 PM) :)
What he was reffering to was DP's Azera brake problem, and not what the dealer did for him.
What else could the dealer do but correct all of those brake problems?
After all, wasn't this a big safety issue? :puzzled:
:amen:
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That's what I was referring to as well - the fact that the dealer didn't say to him, "Gosh, this is the first time we've had someone bring in a car that randomly locked up its brakes at highway speeds..." he said, "It's rare..." meaning, it has happened before! jeepers creepers!
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