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> 2007 Hyundai Azera Steering Wheel Vibration, Steering Wheel Oscillation 65 to 75 MPH
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post Jul 5 2008, 09:01 PM
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I have experienced a vibration with my 2007 Hyundai Azera Limited between 65 and 75 MPH ( most noticible at 70 mph) since the day of delivery in early Sept 2007. The steering wheel oscillates in my hand and can be visibly seen shaking. I called the salesman on the way home and he recommended I drive it a few days to see if it might have been caused by tire flat spotting from sitting on the lot for many months. I returned the car at 400 miles and they balanced the tires! Here it is 10 months and 8400 miles later, six dealer visits, 5 Road Force balance jobs later, two extended stays, one Michelin tire and two front axle's later and the steering wheel still oscillates at 70 MPH. The last visit was last week for 6 days while they replaced the front axle's which they had to have shipped in. I also had an independent tire dealer (Tire Barn) Road Force all 4 tires (at my expense) which they got below 10 pounds. I have been working with the Hyundai District Parts Service Manager (DPSM) and he is calling the shots because the dealer service dept. is at a loss. I have read other posts on this issue and it appears that this is a known problem with this vehicle. I picked the car up July 2nd because I was told that Hyundai Engineering would get involved after the Holiday! Don't get me wrong. I do like the Azera, which replaced our 2001 XG300 which we gave to our daughter. This is the only complaint I have with the vehicle. I have no intentions of tolerating this condition for the next five years. We have a Lemon Statute in our state and I will give them one more shot at fixing the problem then my attorney will notify them of my intentions. I welcome feedback from anyone who has experienced the same condition and had the problem fixed.
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post Jul 21 2008, 07:49 PM
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I have exactly the same problem with my 2006 Sonata. 70 to 75mph shimmy in the steering wheel,balancing does not get rid of it I must say that I have not had any axles replaced.

After reading many complaints with vibration problems with the michelin mmx that came from the factory some forum members have totally replaced their tires and corrected this problem.

I notice that the new Hyundai's now do not have michelins as oem's

Maybe you can get the dealer to replace your tires to another brand,see what the oem is on the genesis

I have 20,000 on my sonata now but will be getting rid of those michelins real soon,In my opinion they just aren't the tire they used to be!

Good Luck

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post Jul 24 2008, 03:36 PM
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I have noticed this problem too. We recently made a 1600 mile trip and at those speeds the steering wheel on our '07 also vibrates as you describe. I did not notice it initially, but that was probably because we were not driving as fast as we did on our trip. We usually drive 60 mph or under.

I did notice some difference in the vibration depending on road surfaces, but it was still there - only the amount of vibration changed. The car now has 8400 miles on it. I still need to take it in to have programmable options set the way we want them and let them rotate tires and/or balance them to see if it gets any better.

It may be the tires and it could be the suspension and the car. Nearly every car I have ever owned had some speeds where vibration was more evident than at others. This one seems a little worse than others I have owned.

I have also seen lots of "out of round" tires in recent years, even from the so called better manufacturers. You may be able to spot this by jacking up a wheel and rotating while placing something under the tire that barely lets it move freely. If the tire rubs against the object in a spot, then the tire is not perfectly round. I don't know just how far out of round a tire has to be to create the vibration, but it may not take much. An out of round tire can throw off even the best of balancing attempts. :thumbsup:

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post Jul 24 2008, 03:43 PM
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Yeah me too.................. Probably the tree :P

But I doubt it.

Wonder if they think this car makes me want to upgrade.
From two 06 Tiburons
To a 06 Sonata
To a 06 Azera limited
......................................................................... Yeah you would think I would want to take the next step.
But it's to another brand for me...... Maybe a Scion :grin:

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post Jul 25 2008, 07:55 AM
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QUOTE(Brazzel @ Jul 24 2008, 04:43 PM)
But it's to another brand for me...... Maybe a Scion  :grin:
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LOL!!! Good one

Thor (my Azera) has it, has had it since day one. I do not think the other one (Soo-Dae) has it. I have had little luck getting these kinds of vibrations fixed on any kind of suspension other than McPherson. Simple indeed; but everything is adjustable, so the can 'get it right'. Not a whole lot you can do other than toe-in on a double A-arm suspension; the geometry is just supposed to be right when it's put together, and that's that. If it's not... then :gitara:
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post Jul 25 2008, 09:06 AM
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:)

There is a Hyundai TSB on this "vibration problem" complaint.

In that TSB, Hyundai is saying what I have been preaching for years:

Get yee to a shop that has the Hunter GSP9700 balancing system and a tech who
knows what he is doing, and your "vibration problems" will be corrected once and fall all! :amen:

I have never seen or heard of any vibration problem that can not be diagnosed and corrected using
this Hunter system IF the tech simply follows the instructions that the Hunter computer says!

:amen:

:)
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post Jul 25 2008, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(andyman32 @ Jul 25 2008, 05:55 AM)
LOL!!! Good one

Thor (my Azera) has it, has had it since day one. I do not think the other one (Soo-Dae) has it.
I have had little luck getting these kinds of vibrations fixed on any kind of suspension other than McPherson. Simple indeed; but everything is adjustable, so the[y] can 'get it right'.
Not a whole lot you can do other than toe-in on a double A-arm suspension; the geometry is
just supposed to be right when it's put together, and that's that. If it's not... then  :gitara:
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:)

In your case, it matters not whether the car is alighed properly.

Your problem is simple.
It is either an out-of-balance wheel and tire or an out-of-round tire or a combination of the two!

There were some bad Michelins don't you know?
No matter what the Hunter tech will try, nothing works, and the tire(s) have to be replaced.
Michelin knows this and accepts the Hunter techs recommendations and will replace bad tires.

:amen:

:)

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This might be the tsb


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post Jul 25 2008, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(andyman32 @ Jul 25 2008, 07:55 AM)
LOL!!! Good one

Thor (my Azera) has it, has had it since day one. I do not think the other one (Soo-Dae) has it. I have had little luck getting these kinds of vibrations fixed on any kind of suspension other than McPherson. Simple indeed; but everything is adjustable, so the can 'get it right'. Not a whole lot you can do other than toe-in on a double A-arm suspension; the geometry is just supposed to be right when it's put together, and that's that. If it's not... then  :gitara:
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I think I'll name my Azera "Goober" :thumbsup:
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QUOTE(snaglepus @ Jul 25 2008, 10:06 AM)
:) There is a Hyundai TSB on this "vibration problem" complaint. 
In that TSB, Hyundai is saying what I have been preaching for years:
Get yee to a shop that has the Hunter GSP9700 balancing system and a tech who
knows what he is doing, and your "vibration problems" will be corrected once and fall all!  :amen:
I have never seen or heard of any vibration problem that can not be diagnosed and corrected using
this Hunter system IF the tech simply follows the instructions that the Hunter computer says!:amen: :)
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Righ on Snaglepus!!
the problem is that not all places with the Hunter GSP9700 have a technician that knows how to use it...sob :crying: :crying:
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QUOTE(snaglepus @ Jul 25 2008, 09:06 AM)
:)

There is a Hyundai TSB on this "vibration problem" complaint. 

In that TSB, Hyundai is saying what I have been preaching for years:

Get yee to a shop that has the Hunter GSP9700 balancing system and a tech who
knows what he is doing, and your "vibration problems" will be corrected once and fall all!  :amen:

I have never seen or heard of any vibration problem that can not be diagnosed and corrected using
this Hunter system IF the tech simply follows the instructions that the Hunter computer says!

:amen:

:)
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And this "Hal 9000... Uh ... Hunter GS8675309 is at our Hyundai dealer ?
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post Jul 25 2008, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(Pelikan @ Jul 25 2008, 12:50 PM)
Righ on Snaglepus!!  the problem is that not all places with the Hunter GSP9700 have a technician that knows how to use it...sob :crying:  :crying:
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:)

That is for sure and that's the truth! Some of these techs didn't get past grade five!

That's why I usually like to say that for the tech to be able to correct any problems, he has to know
what he's doing and bother to take the time and follow the directions stated by the computer.

I have been to a Hunter seminar twice, and I feel that I learned enough
to be able to operate that machine properly myself. It is that simple.
Once, while having some plus one wheels and Michelins SUV tires rebalanced because they were way off (supposedly balanced by the TireRack prior to be shipped, but all four wheels had the weights on one side of the wheels only!) the local tech wanted to hurry up everything, and was passing on doing anything to correct this one wheel that was reading a Roadforce of 40 lbs.
That is way over the limit! I told him to hold it right there, and went and got the shop owner.
He knew I knew, and not only corrected that wheel down to 15 lbs Roadforce,
but did all the other wheels properly also.
When I informed the TireRack about this, they refunded
the $40 I had to spend to correct their mistakes.

It is too bad when any shop will pay the quite high price for the Hunter system and then turn some fluncky loose on it who either will not take the time to do the job properly, or simply does not care.

:amen:

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