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post Jun 26 2008, 12:56 PM
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I am getting my custom cold air intake done today. were using 2 inch piping following the stock set up around the battery then going strait down into the front bumper well.

Unless anyone else has other idea's let me know I take it in about 2 more hours.
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post Jun 26 2008, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(v33sonata @ Jun 26 2008, 09:56 AM)
I am getting my custom cold air intake done today. were using 2 inch piping following the stock set up around the battery then going strait down into the front bumper well.

Unless anyone else has other idea's let me know I take it in about 2 more hours.
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V, as I value your opinion, answer something for me. What does cold air intake

really do, when the Sonata runs its absolute best in 110 degree Arizona Temps?

I drove back from my Dealer, (Hyundai Dealer, my other Dealer delivers! :trophy: )

on I 40 (Route 66), the Speed Limit is 75 MPH, and I got incredible mileage (28.8)

and had some awesome V6 Freeway fun. This same observation happened last year too. :thumbsup:

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post Jun 26 2008, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(MiamiLX @ Jun 26 2008, 01:21 PM)
V, as I value your opinion, answer something for me. What does cold air intake

really do, when the Sonata runs its absolute best in 110 degree Arizona Temps?

I drove back from my Dealer, (Hyundai Dealer, my other Dealer delivers! :trophy: )

on I 40 (Route 66), the Speed Limit is 75 MPH, and I got incredible mileage (28.8)

and had some awesome V6 Freeway fun. This same observation happened last year too. :thumbsup:
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The sonata runs well in 110. But not the best by any means. when it is cooler here their is defiantly an increase in performance and thats what I am all about more power. Go for a run and breath thru a straw thats our intake on the stock sonata now cut the end off a paper cup and go for a run...... get it?
if not maybe this will help
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_air_intake
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i see that SOMEONE likes their avatar I made for them :D
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QUOTE(v33sonata @ Jun 26 2008, 10:40 AM)
The sonata runs well in 110. But not the best by any means. when it is cooler here their is defiantly an increase in performance and thats what I am all about more power. Go for a run and breath thru a straw thats our intake on the stock sonata now cut the end off a paper cup and go for a run...... get it?
if not maybe this will help
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_air_intake
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Of course I was asking about mileage not performance, but 28.8 MPG

at 75 MPH when it is a brutal 110 outside tells me something. The Sonata

craves Hot Heat!
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post Jun 26 2008, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(MiamiLX @ Jun 26 2008, 02:12 PM)
Of course I was asking about mileage not performance, but 28.8 MPG

at 75 MPH when it is a brutal 110 outside tells me something. The Sonata

craves Hot Heat!
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hahaha lol. well ill let u know if i seen any gains.
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post Jun 26 2008, 03:05 PM
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Isn't that pipe diameter a little small? AEM uses 3" even on the four cylinder Tiburons.
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Yeah I was thinking 2 would be a little small...
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post Jun 26 2008, 06:58 PM
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yea I used 2" tubing on my custom CAI on my 2.0 Elantra GT so 3" might have been a better option. I'm anxious to hear your results and see some pics though.

Has anyone had any problems with CEL's that have aftermarket intakes??? I know a while ago that was the big warning that I heard. I know not too many have custom intakes but just curious from those that do :grin:
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Dogstar has a CAI... he has not reported any problems.
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post Jun 26 2008, 07:50 PM
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I've been patiently waiting for dogstar to manufacture his CAI. Still waiting :whistling:
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Cold Air Intake actually are made to funnel air from outside of the engine compartment (which is colder) to suply the engine with colder air. Yes It's true that colder air molecules are smaller in size than hot air molecules. Why is this an advantage, well lets see.
lets say a two inch tube cut to one foot long will fit 250 marbles in it. (just an example) Now fill it up with water, then measure how much water there is.
Now take the same tube and put superballs in them. (this represents hot air molicules) There is no way you can fit that same measured water in the tube. Hot air takes up more space.
Colder Air = More fuel being let in = More Power
Hot Air = Less fuel being let in = Better gas milage.

Only down falls of a low mounted CIA is when you hit a large puddle of water it goes straight to the motor and BLAM. You just bought alot of repairs or even a motor.
Have you checked in to a By-Pass Valve. They work as a safety valve incase the intake gets flooded. To tell you the truth, I have no idea where to get one, just hate the thought of loosing a motor.
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You would have to really TRY to hydrolock your engine even WITHOUT a bypass valve.

My Nissan had a CAI with no bypass valve for 5 years and I never had an issue.
You basically would have to go through standing water, dep enough to cover the filter (Up past your bumper obviously) and accelerate through it at the same time.
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I've seen 4 engines ruined to date.
2002 Maxima
2006 S2000
1995 Civic (mine - can even show you the motor in the garage.)
1999 Eclips

Yes they were all lowered, yes they all had turbo's.

I would just hate to see someone be uninformed of the dangers.
Informed people make better decissions. Like can I make it home if I live in miss?
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QUOTE(alex2006sonata @ Jun 26 2008, 04:58 PM)
yea I used 2" tubing on my custom CAI on my 2.0 Elantra GT so 3" might have been a better option.  I'm anxious to hear your results and see some pics though.

Has anyone had any problems with CEL's that have aftermarket intakes???  I know a while ago that was the big warning that I heard.  I know not too many have custom intakes but just curious from those that do  :grin:
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Nope, no check engine lights.
Car has been through everything from a -45 degree blizzard to 100 degrees sitting all day in the summer sun. Not a cough, sneeze or fart with the CAI :)

QUOTE(alex2006sonata @ Jun 26 2008, 05:50 PM)
I've been patiently waiting for dogstar to manufacture his CAI.  Still waiting  :whistling:
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Hmm... I probably could have cranked em out a while ago... but they wouldn't have had the testing I've mentioned and I don't want to sell something that is going to be crap.

QUOTE(Sort Em @ Jun 26 2008, 05:55 PM)
Cold Air Intake actually are made to funnel air from outside of the engine compartment (which is colder) to suply the engine with colder air. Yes It's true that colder air molecules are smaller in size than hot air molecules. Why is this an advantage, well lets see.
lets say a two inch tube cut to one foot long will fit 250 marbles in it. (just an example) Now fill it up with water, then measure how much water there is.
Now take the same tube and put superballs in them. (this represents hot air molicules) There is no way you can fit that same measured water in the tube. Hot air takes up more space.
Colder Air = More fuel being let in = More Power
Hot Air = Less fuel being let in = Better gas milage.

Only down falls of a low mounted CIA is when you hit a large puddle of water it goes straight to the motor and BLAM. You just bought alot of repairs or even a motor.
Have you checked in to a By-Pass Valve. They work as a safety valve incase the intake gets flooded. To tell you the truth, I have no idea where to get one, just hate the thought of loosing a motor.
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To get that much water in a cold air intake the way I have mine, and the way it sounds like V33 got his done, you would need to accellerate through water that is mid grill height and drive for quite a while till the fender area fills up.

Anything is possible, but it helps if you use care and attention....
This isn't directed at you Sort Em, but at people who I have seen driving around.
If the water is as high as your tires, WTH are you doing driving through it? Especially fast... cars can float and when they are floating, you has no control.
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QUOTE(dogstar @ Jun 26 2008, 11:59 PM)
Nope, no check engine lights.
Car has been through everything from a -45 degree blizzard to 100 degrees sitting all day in the summer sun. Not a cough, sneeze or fart with the CAI :)
Hmm... I probably could have cranked em out a while ago... but they wouldn't have had the testing I've mentioned and I don't want to sell something that is going to be crap.
To get that much water in a cold air intake the way I have mine, and the way it sounds like V33 got his done, you would need to accellerate through water that is mid grill height and drive for quite a while till the fender area fills up.

Anything is possible, but it helps if you use care and attention....
This isn't directed at you Sort Em, but at people who I have seen driving around.
If the water is as high as your tires, WTH are you doing driving through it? Especially fast... cars can float and when they are floating, you has no control.
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I had to post pone it til tomorrow. Hey dog what sized piping are you using? and where did you route it? any pix?
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v33, is this where your CAI draws air from? It's the area in the drivers fender well where the resonator is, was in my case.



(IMG:http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj287/wymi/040608_14441.jpg)

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QUOTE(wymi @ Jun 27 2008, 08:04 AM)
v33, is this where your CAI draws air from? It's the area in the drivers fender well where the resonator is, was in my case.
(IMG:http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj287/wymi/040608_14441.jpg)
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I think so. hard to tell with that pix. ill let u knwo when i get it done
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QUOTE(v33sonata @ Jun 27 2008, 12:34 AM)
I had to post pone it til tomorrow. Hey dog what sized piping are you using? and where did you route it? any pix?
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I used 3" and routed it almost exactly where the stock stuff went.
Not really any pics of it mounted because all you can see is a pipe coming off the throttle body and disappearing behind the battery and under the fusebox.

Sorry I missed your PM dude... I never did get a notification email and the link/indicator on here just doesn't catch my eye unless it highlights at the top of the page in red.



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