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 Jun 24 2008, 12:58 PM
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I bought my 07 Sonata about six months ago and its finally due for an oil change. My question is do I have to take it to the dealer or can I take it to any decent lube place (ie not Jiffy Lube)?
I've lurked here a bit and thought I remembered reading something to the effect that filters for the 4G model were dealer exclusive or aftermarkets had some issues or something. Any info would be appreciated. I'd really not have to deal with the local dealer for something this minor if I can avoid it.
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Jun 24 2008, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(Keezer @ Jun 24 2008, 10:58 AM) I bought my 07 Sonata about six months ago and its finally due for an oil change. My question is do I have to take it to the dealer or can I take it to any decent lube place (ie not Jiffy Lube)?
I've lurked here a bit and thought I remembered reading something to the effect that filters for the 4G model were dealer exclusive or aftermarkets had some issues or something. Any info would be appreciated. I'd really not have to deal with the local dealer for something this minor if I can avoid it.
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:00000732: From what I remember, the Sonata has a special "ring" of some sort that must be replaced when the oil is changed. I was taking it to a mom and pop shop and the dealer was actually less expensive to do it there. I think it's for the oil filter which must be replaced each time but I'm sure someone will correct me on that... Welcome to the boards! You'll find a lot of useful info. Any questions though try using the search box first.
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Jun 24 2008, 01:18 PM
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there was no way a dealer was less expensive to do it by me.. dealer wants $30+ for an oil change and they are about 15 miles further away than my local guy who changes the filter (and ring) each time for about the same price, and is less than 1 mile from me...
as long as your local guy (I would not go to someone unless I have used them before and trusted them though) has worked on an NF Sonata before (and im sure most have by now), you should be fine.
the filters are not dealer exclusive.. OEM filters are dealer exclusive, but other companies (Fram, NAPA, Wix, etc) also make filters for our cars....
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Jun 24 2008, 01:34 PM
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Thanks for the replies. Its a V6.
I thought about doing it myself but I'm paranoid I may inadvertently void the warranty somehow. Bumper to bumper is too awesome to risk :clap:
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Jun 24 2008, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(ddix1026 @ Jun 24 2008, 01:35 PM) there is no way you can void the warranty by doing your own oil changes... as long as you keep receipts and track when you do it, and it has been done according to the service interval, nothing they can say about it
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Pretty much sums it up.
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Jun 24 2008, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(AsmGuru62 @ Jun 24 2008, 04:28 PM) Six months?!
Wow!
My V6 'drags' and roars at the end of three months.
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sheesh, how hard do YOU drive it? i do mine every 3-4 months (so far has been around 4k miles, but i might push it further this time) and the oil comes out fairly clean when i get it changed (or so has my mechanic told me, it looks pretty good at 4,300 miles last time)
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Jun 24 2008, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(ddix1026 @ Jun 24 2008, 05:18 PM) sheesh, how hard do YOU drive it? i do mine every 3-4 months (so far has been around 4k miles, but i might push it further this time) and the oil comes out fairly clean when i get it changed (or so has my mechanic told me, it looks pretty good at 4,300 miles last time)
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Oil appearance has nothing to do with its ability to protect your motor. If you REALLY want to know, have an oil analysis done. Unless you are taking your Sonata to the track and pushing it hard...7500 is just fine for dino oil. It is what Hyundai recommends. If you run full syn, most folks can drive all year on it and swap out at 12-15k. The 3k mile changes are just plain silly.
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Jun 25 2008, 05:41 AM
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yes, we have heard you preach this a thousand time so far... you can say whatever you want, but most people change their oil sooner than 7,500 miles with dino oil, myself included... (and Hyundai recommends 7,500 for "optimal driving conditions", but almost every kind of driving other than straight, flat highway driving at 70mph in the warm sun [not HOT sun] on a tuesday is considered "severe" driving conditions, for which they recommend 3k changes)
as for the appearance of the oil, if your oil, when changed, is coming out fairly clean, that is USUALLY a sign that the car is running well and not building up sludge, etc.
This post has been edited by ddix1026: Jun 25 2008, 05:43 AM
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Jun 25 2008, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(AsmGuru62 @ Jun 24 2008, 04:28 PM) Six months?!
Wow!
My V6 'drags' and roars at the end of three months.
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Round trip to work is about 24 miles so it took 6 months hit the 3K mark. Plus I drive it pretty conservatively except for the occasional "my car is faster than yours" moments
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Jun 25 2008, 09:04 AM
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Okay after looking at prices I think I'm going to do it myself rather than give the dealer $40 plus disposal fee and whatever other padding they come up with.
Whats a good filter brand to look for? Also how do I get replacement O rings do they sell them as a set or do I need to know dimensions? Thanks for all the info
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Jun 25 2008, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(ddix1026 @ Jun 25 2008, 05:41 AM) as for the appearance of the oil, if your oil, when changed, is coming out fairly clean, that is USUALLY a sign that the car is running well and not building up sludge, etc.
Im sorry to inform ya, but the above statement is not correct. I have performed hundreds of oil analyses on oil used in rotating equipment and automobiles. When oil look 'dirty', yeah that can be an issue. However if the additive package and acidity levels in the oil are still good, and the oil hasnt significantly cracked, then there will be no significant differences between it and fresh when it comes to function. Likewise if an oil looks clean yet has high acidity, low addtives left, or has cracked - it can damage an engine/or equipment quickly. I have seen 'good' looking oil in an automobile that is certainly spent and has significantly degraded performance.
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Jun 25 2008, 09:21 AM
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Well that makes that easy thanks for the heads up.
Anybody have any opinions on Purolator or Pentius? They're the other brands that showed up on the website for Adv Auto that up the street from me plus they're on sale this week
This post has been edited by Keezer: Jun 25 2008, 09:22 AM
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Jun 25 2008, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(imabiggles @ Jun 25 2008, 10:15 AM) Im sorry to inform ya, but the above statement is not correct. I have performed hundreds of oil analyses on oil used in rotating equipment and automobiles. When oil look 'dirty', yeah that can be an issue. However if the additive package and acidity levels in the oil are still good, and the oil hasnt significantly cracked, then there will be no significant differences between it and fresh when it comes to function. Likewise if an oil looks clean yet has high acidity, low addtives left, or has cracked - it can damage an engine/or equipment quickly. I have seen 'good' looking oil in an automobile that is certainly spent and has significantly degraded performance.
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i said "usually", not "always".... of course there will be situations where the look of the oil isnt indicative of its performance, but getting it changed at 4,300 miles doing 95% highway driving typically isnt going to break down the oil as much as doing 4,300 miles of intense stop & go/city driving...
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