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> Hard Shifting, 2008 Veracruz has hard down shift
mlaskowsky
post May 18 2008, 09:49 PM
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I just purchased a 2008 VC Limited and I have noticed that when I start off the line fast then let off the gas I get a hesitation and a down shift. Just wondering if this is a characteristic of the VC, or something isn't correct. It isn't consistent so I know it won't happen when I take it back to the dealer.
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post May 23 2008, 09:20 AM
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I'm also experiencing a slight shifting issue with my 2007. I have a hesitation on level roads or slight inclines at approximately 30-35 MPH. I had mine back to the dealership and they could reproduce the problem, but couldn't put a finger on it. They pulled the wheels and rebalanced them. (I don't believe it to be a wheel balance problem because, if it was, it should get worse the faster I go.) Regardless, they told me to drive it for a while and then bring it back if it's still doing it. (Which it is.) I'd also love to hear if other Veracruz owners are experiencing similar issues. ...Or better yet, if anyone has had their's fixed of this problem and can tell me the cause.
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post May 23 2008, 06:24 PM
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I took my VC into the shop yesterday for them to look at the problem. They said that the transmission has logic that tailors to the drivers driving characteristics. They reset the computer that controls this, but said that they didn't see anything wrong with my VC. They told me that these transmissions smooth out over time and that it should be broken in by the time I have over 10k miles on it. I currently have 700 miles so I guess I will have to wait awhile to get it fixed. I didn't have time to tell them how ridiculous that sounded, but I will when I get time. My VC still has a hard shift, even after they reset the computer. I will update you when I take it back next time.
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post May 23 2008, 06:50 PM
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Thanks for following up with the additional information. The vehicle learning your driving patterns doesn't sound too unrealistic to me but, 10K miles seems like it would make the vehicle an awfully slow learner. :blink: My '07 has a little over 3K miles. According to the owner's manual, the break-in period (at least for the engine) is 600 miles and you're not supposed to tow until 1,200 miles. I didn't read the entire owner's manual, but I don't recall seeing anything about break-in period or learning process for the tranny. I'll have to look again. Please do keep me posted. If I decide to take mine back in, I'll let you know what they say. Thanks, again!
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post Jun 9 2008, 12:32 PM
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I have had this same experience in my 07 VC SE. However, I have also had these experiences in my other automatics I have owned. I can explain a little bit but I am not a mechanic nor an auto engineer...

1) the downshifting is most likely from a truck engine and being a v6. I have had this experience in cars I have owned and I actually like it downshifting to slow me down instead of having to use the brake pedal every time.

2) the hesitation in the 30-40 mph range is most likely the computer/engine trying to determine which gear to be in as it is most likely at an RPM range where it would generally downshift or upshift depending on whether your speeding up or slowing down. I resolve this if I will be in the speed for a while by moving over to tiptronic shifting

If I am incorrect please let me know.
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post Jun 11 2008, 02:15 PM
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I have a 2007 VC and am using as Company Vehicle for Sales. I have put 38K on it in 9 months and am now having transmission problems. My VC is hanging up in gears and is not not even releasing into OD. My gas mileage has dropped to below 20 MPG. Also having major Front End Alignment issues and ESC issues.

Dealer resolved the ESC Issue as it left me stranded twice. I have appt next week for the tranismission issue.

Hopefully, this is just my bad luck and not a prevelant problem with all VC.

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post Apr 23 2009, 10:06 PM
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I took my 2007 VC back to the dealership to have them look at it, again. This time they supposedly contacted a technician at Hyundai corporate. They're claiming that the issue I'm encountering is the result of towing with the vehicle (even though I reported the problem to them before I ever towed anything with it). They informed me that the car "learned" to deal with the extra weight of towing and will now forever be this way.

I believe the problem is that the car is up shifting too soon. I've noticed that if I'm driving on a slight incline at ~35 MPH, it will shift into 5th gear and it seems like the engine then struggles. If I move into the manual shifting position, I can drop it down into 4th and it runs fine. The dealership was going to reset the computer on my car, also, but the technician from corporate recommended not doing so. Because the issue is more of a nuisance than anything else, I guess I'm just going to deal with it unless I encounter driveability issues.
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post Apr 27 2009, 11:07 AM
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I started this thread. When I took my VC in they told me that they reset the memory on the transmision so the it would start learning a new shifting pattern. I would think that they could also do that for you. I would call a different dealership and get their opinion.
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post Apr 27 2009, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE (mlaskowsky @ Apr 27 2009, 12:07 PM) *
I started this thread. When I took my VC in they told me that they reset the memory on the transmision so the it would start learning a new shifting pattern.


Thanks for the follow up. Once they reset yours, did that fix the problem for you?
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post Jun 27 2009, 11:25 AM
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My O8' SE FWD is having issues around 35mph when you let off the gas it feels like the tranny is dragging or the ebrake is on slightly (which it isn't). This started just a few hundred miles ago. It hasn't been doing it the whole time so I took it in to the dealership. Their one mechanic just so happens to have a VC, test drove mine and said it was normal.... However my fuel economy is down. The 1st 1500miles I was getting 17-18pg around town, once the tranny dragging issue started mileage went down to the 13-14mpg range. The VC feels like it won't "coast" anymore, the OD stays engaged or something? I can manually put it in N and then back to D and she'll coast, that is the only way. Dealer never mentioned the ability to "reset" the programming on the tranny. Anybody experience this or have a thought about it? Odometer now reads 2,100.
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Linda P.
post Sep 10 2009, 07:54 PM
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Hello -

I feel like I'm having the same problem that you did; I have an '08 Veracruz and the transmission seems to be "dragging." It feels like the emergency brake is on when it isn't and almost as if the car is downshifting (pulling back) when I'm driving/coasting.

I'm about to take my car in tomorrow...will you please let me know what happened with your car? Was the issue resolved to your satisfaction? I only have 2,700 miles on mine!

Thank you!

Linda P.
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post Sep 13 2009, 10:37 AM
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We purchased a 08 Veracruz LTD with 5000K on it. We did not notice any hard shifting. It has 20000K now. We have pulled an 18 foot boat through mountain passes in B.C. and with or without trailer we have not noticed any difference.
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With my '08 GLS I am noticing a similar pulsing effect when the transmission goes from 4th to 5th around 35-40mph. You can watch the tachometer and it starts right at the shift. Engine RPM is very low at this point, well under 2000, so I suspect that the engine is experiencing high load at low RPM and the transmission is repeatedly letting some slip occur to save the engine some work. I can feel and see this effect when I go to manual mode and try overloading the engine. When I just start to overload the engine at low RPM the pulsing starts. If I floor it under this condition the RPM will increase 700-1000 RPM and I can feel the pulsing go away. When I back off the pedal I can feel something in the transmission limit the slip once more.

I thought this might be something related to break-in. Now at 12000 miles I doubt it. My wife drives the vehicle most of the time and is a relatively calm driver. I tend to drive it like a nut (fantastic amounts of extra power, I love it). So I don't know who it's "learning" from... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 5 2010, 09:38 PM
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In December I traded in my 2007 for a 2010 Veracruz and the new vehicle does not have the same shift issue as the '07 (at least not yet--it only has about 300 miles on it to-date). I'm not sure if the shifting issue is only experienced by a few Veracruz's or if they ironed out the problem in the later models. I never was able to make heads or tails of the shifting issue on my '07. The car ran fine, so I just learned to ignore it.
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QUOTE (WOT @ Apr 27 2009, 09:09 PM) *
Thanks for the follow up. Once they reset yours, did that fix the problem for you?



I experienced the same problems with my 07 Veracruz GLS AWD with upshifting around 40-45, and downshifting around 20mph. After resetting the computer the problem was fixed.

I have now traded that vehicle for the late 2008 model Veracruz ltd AWD and have experienced the same issue....again the dealer reset the computer and it seems to be running fine.
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post Mar 18 2010, 06:45 PM
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I am having the same very hard downshifting problems on my 2008 Hyundai Veracruz with less than 19k miles. Over the last year, I have taken the Veracruz to the dealer several times for the transmission and they still haven't correctly repaired it yet. The first time they couldn't reproduce the problem. The second time they did find a slight problem and reset the computer, which didn't fix the problem. The third time was supposedly an oxygen sensor throwing a code and causing the shifting problem but they only reset the code, still didn't fix the problem. The fourth time the oxygen sensor was replaced and still didn't fix the problem. The Veracruz is currently at the dealer for the 5th time and now they are supposed to run more diagnostics and possibly replace the transmission. Not to mention they still can't properly align the front end after 3 failed attempts and during any type of braking it feels like the front end is going to vibrate off. To me this is totally unacceptable for a 13 month old car with less than 19k miles that has never towed and has been completely babied. Unfortunately I am looking into the Florida Lemon Law now.
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