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 End Of An Azera?

snaglepus
post Jun 26 2008, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE(Dean Sr. @ Jun 26 2008, 12:58 AM)
Heaven forbid you should get into a 'discussion' with anyone over anything, for the hosts
will delete whatever they feel is not to their liking, and in some cases even ban you!


Or send you e-mails if they take exception to your "attitude", which I have received. 
It is simple censorship, which the "hosts" refer to as forum rules.
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And here I thought I was the only one. Hostess Patricia and I have gone round
and round about this, and it does no good to go over her and Karens heads.
Where does Edmunds get off with this censorship anyway? Talk about control . .
I have been censored many many times, and finally managed to get myself banned. Big deal!
That's why I tend to do most of my posting here. We are a cut above yonder folks.

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QUOTE(Dean Sr. @ Jun 26 2008, 01:09 AM)

I'm waiting to get my finances ready for a new car, wife hates it but I'm craving an Azera...


Does the Wife "hate it" because of Hyundai's throw away reputation of the 80's? 
Many people today still won't accept Hyundai product line improvement
that  includes Sonata, Santa Fe, Veracruz and especially Azera.
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She is not the only one I'm afraid. Many share this idea based on what has gone on before.
Once planted, these notions do die hard for some people. 'Tis a shame , but . . .
Witness how many go to great lengths to remove Hyundai badges from their Azeras. New grills, etc.
Personally I don't give a d**n what others may think of my ride.
If they don't like it, they can lump it, s***k it, look the other way or whatever.
I love the fact that I can drive a better vehicle and am able to enjoy my Azera while at the
same time saving mucho dinero. Let them suffer. It is, after all, their choice and their loss.

:amen:

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The Azera is not going anywhere, this was also confirmed in the Genesis Launch Event I attended yesterday.

Hyundai's reasoning is simple:

Azera = Comfort/Luxury
Genesis = Performance/Luxury

Two vehicles for two different customers.
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That's good! :57:

Please expand on how they brought up this subject and what was said exactly?

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Per the regional service rep. who checked with Hyundai Technical in CA, there is no difference in the suspensions/shocks on 06, 07, 08 and 09 Azeras. Numbers refer to year of manufacture. That's what he said.
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Personally, I have quit using some of the Edmunds sites because the people there are not as nice as the ones here. By this I mean, they attack the messenger if they do not like what he says. I do not recall having seen this here.
No offense, but as Sgt. Friday said - "Just the facts." :beer:
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QUOTE(Carolina Bob @ Jul 10 2008, 11:15 AM)
Per the regional service rep. who checked with Hyundai Technical in CA, there is no difference in
the suspensions/shocks on 06, 07, 08 and 09 Azeras.  Numbers refer to year of manufacture. 
That's what he said.
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Isn't it simply grand that Hyundai actually pays someone to tell these untruths? :P

Why would this person say something like that when all anyone needs to do is visit the parts
department as I did and see the different parts number for the cars built 10/20/07 and later.
This is true for not only the front shocks, but the rear shocks as well.
There have been three sets of different shocks for the four models years, but now there are
just the later two sets, and I think that the latest numbers are the parts of choice, and the
fronts do fit and work for sure. I'm sure the latest parts will work on the rear also.

Parts number available on request, and I have posted 'em elsewhere already here on this forum.

One fellow has already changed his front shocks to those new later parts.
He has posted side-by-side pictures of the early and the
latest shocks, and you can plainly see the differences.

One wonders if said regional service rep ever checks for
"the facts ma am, just the facts" as Friday used to say.

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QUOTE(Carolina Bob @ Jul 10 2008, 11:21 AM)
Personally, I have quit using some of the Edmunds sites because the people there are not as nice as the ones here.  By this I mean, they attack the messenger if they do not like what he says. I do not recall having seen this here. No offense, but as Sgt. Friday said - "Just the facts." :beer:
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Couldn't agree with you more Bob. :amen:

A suggestion for you if you don't mind. :P

I don't not know whether or not your car falls in those dates required for the TSB which covers the
clunking noise, but if it does, print it and go the dealer and ask him to replace your original front
shocks with the latest parts instead of what the TSB calls for which is part number 54611-3L040.
If your car falls within the build dates of TSB 07-50-007 which are December 5,
2005 through February 26, 2007, you will have original parts 54611-3L041.
These are the first or original parts that are no longer now listed by the parts department.

I would do this even if your Azera does not fall within those build date addressed by the TSB.

Now here's the tricky part. Tell your friendly accommodating service writer that you do not
care whether or not you have the clunking noise or whether or not they can hear it.
You want your front shocks replaced with the latest parts which are listed for the
current cars beginning with 10/20/07.
This part number is 54611-3L640.
These are the current parts and should be 'new and improved' to correct
all the mistakes the factory has made with those two earlier shock sets.
These are the only changes I can detect while at the parts department.
Prices are about the same, so that should not be any problem!
Do not take no for an answer. There is no excuse for anyone to have to put
up with that floppy suspension that both you and I are experiencing.
And while you're at it, tell the people at the agency to straighten out that dumb service rep!
If the dealer won't do that for you, call Hyundai and demand that it be done for you.
I'd like to hear someone there try to tell you that there are no changes over all four model years.
Mine was acting just as you discribe, and I had the TSB done at 5K miles.
Those original 54611-3L041s felt just like they were worn out.
I had no 'cluncking' noise, but the head of the service department said he heard
it, which is what Hyundai evidently requires for that TSB to be performed.
Again, after an additional 5K miles, the replacement 54611-3L040s are doing that very same thing!
Mine porpuses so badly on some roads that it almost makes me seasick!

Worth a shot isn't it? If you don't ask, the answer is always no isn't it? :whistling:

I have tried to make this as clear as I possibly can, but . .
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate. Fire away! :amen:

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