OK guys with talkig to TC at NGM. he's interested in creating a simple setup for our cars. Wouldn't be any ground breaking HP gains but something to wake our motors up. It's known already that our factory ECU can handle 5psi so that all he would make the setup for. Possible larger and more HP version maybe for future. with 5psi I'm guess our HP would gain somewhere in the 20-30 hp, but it maybe more. I'm just looking to see who would be interested since to get him to do thishe would need some a small investment prebuy on them. No price or any other details yet, but I wouldn't think the cost would be more than $2000. Probably more like $1500 than anything but prebuy invest would be a lot less than that. Again all numbers are just guesses I'm just looking for seriously interested people. TC from NGM is well known for his great work and good prices.

NOTE: Admin please don't move this, One the group buy starts I'll create it over in in group buy forum.

This post has been edited by Komptek: May 16 2008, 04:35 PM

65 bucks per HP gained?

steep, but it'd probably be worth it..
let me check my Visa balance and i'll get back to you :thumbsup:

i would be interested if the preinvestment price was 1000. anything above that and its outta reach for me

Im very interested in this as well. If i could get a hold of a supercharger i would scrap the turbo idea although the turbo will net a bit more HP. A company like that i dont think would need an initial investment. they are already established.

TC does all the work outof his own pocket, They are not that big. Just very well known, not ot mention all the school he attends to make sure we get teh best products. His prebuy for the S/C for the 2.0L was $1000 so maybe he'd want the same not sure. Good think is it should take too much, more fitting than anything because we're going for a OEM ecu setup. It would pretty much be a a new Intake manifold and blower setup. So I don't expect it to be very costly.

but how much power will we lose to power it? with all net gains there has to be a loss some where. either its high/low end torque, peak rpm hp. some thing. if we lose any more low end torque you might as well ask for a jogging start so the s/c kicks in

Lose power? Have you ever had a S/C, increases powerband throughout. Now I'm kind of new to S/C as well but yah you lose power to make the power in the scene that you run the S/C via a puley system. But You gain the HP as well. TC or myself have no ideal what will a S/C on our car produce as far as total HP gain. but It's worth a try. If the gain ins't enough with just a simple setup, TC will look at doing more. As far as I know NGM is one of the few that can do a full ecu reflash.

i know but, superchagers are known to lessen efficiency as far as i have heard. they take power to make more but where they get it i dont know. like a turbo is called free power because it works off off the excess energy wasted there for its efficient. s/c use a pully which take power away but in the end produce more power, but there is still a loss so they are non efficient... did i lose any one??? look it up on wika

All's the supercharger does is compress the fresh air coming in from the intake filter. Yea it pressurizes the manifold anywhere from 3-25PSI depending on blower and application. My regal was supercharegd and after doing a smaller s/c pulley and a intake with a free flowing exhaust the gain was phenomenol. I increased the stock boost of 8PSI to 14.5PSI on a good cool night. It was awesome. I think a supercharger for our car would be awesome. Because not much really has to be changed. I'm talking to a guy here in town about custom making me a manifold and throttle body, to adapt to a Eaton M90 Superchager. Which would create Aproxx. 6-8PSI. Which would an amazing gain for our tiny little motors. Get the thicker head gasket to lower the compression of the block, to even it out with the S/C, re-flashed ECU, Exhaust manifold, full race cat exhaust, And a light weight pulley set. That I would imagine bring it up to almost 200HP Maybe more. That would be sweet, because it's all low to mid range power, to get the tiny car (1600LBS gutted), it would be a pocket rocket. JMTC

I fully understand you usually to supercharge a car you lose a number of hp due to the strain on the engine, ,so basically we can add a supercharger lets say 40 hp gain minus 20 for turning it and you're only at a 20 hp gain, atleast with a turbo you just get lag then massive boost im no expert but thats what i expect to happen lol

OK guys this is the way it works. Over all you can get the overall HP gain with a S/C or Turbo. Even with the power loss of a S/C or the lag of a turbo. Benefits of a S/C is you get the power gain throughout your low, mid, and high range. A turbo gives you very mid and high end power but a very low end lagtime. So if you race you car than yes a turbo would be the way to go. If you daily drive it or do a lot of city driving, a S/C might be better. Just a reminder NGM currently I believe has the S/C tiburon running in the 11sec range, I don't know of any turbo's in the range.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZiUPcuSyr4&feature=related

ugh dont post links to you tube... i just spent an hour looking at really fast cars do really cool things...

ugh... highly recommend using premium grade fule with any forced induction... blah blah blah.... damit

This post has been edited by nobodieshero07: May 18 2008, 04:47 AM

According to Superstreet magazine, a T3/T4 turbo from a Jetta or Civic will work on an Accent. There are a boatload of those on E-Bay for cheap $100-$400. http://search.ebay.com/t3-t04e-turbocharge...fsooZ2QQfsopZ32

The other parts such as intercoolers and piping can be found on this site below:

Also, if any of you guys are looking for Accent Aftermarket: Interior, Exterior, and especially Performance parts. They also have remapped ECU's for 1.6L and 2.0 Liter Accents with settings for turbos built into them already; for cheap only $299.

Then you need to go to:

http://www.kdmstuff.com/index.php


Any of you guys with 07's and 08's go to this page.

http://www.kdmstuff.com/shop/step0.php?b_c...C20051026045312

The 1.6L parts for the 2000-2006 models will bolt on the to 07+ models.


They also have electric turbos for those of us not that adventurous to do engine boring etc....

http://search.ebay.com/electric-turbo_W0QQ...sifQQsofocusZbs

This post has been edited by smokefreak2003: May 20 2008, 05:08 PM

Well guys sorry top say but looks like I won't be getting a S/C or Turbo. I'm doing this for a very good reason. I will be getting a header adn reprogramming the ECU. The reason is the WIFE. She has been bugging me about looking at the Genesis Coupe, than after a car meet she came up with the ideal of. After we build the house and garage next summer, why don't I get the coupe and do that up for a summer driver. So with that I need to keep the Accent a year-around driver. So no S/C or Turbo. But I will continue to work with TC on gettign a S/C started as well help out where I can with the turbo's. Man I need to start saving for all the after market parts now for the Genesis. I'll have to wait to see what aftermarket parts come out for the V6 and I4 then decide which I'll go with. God love the wife!

This post has been edited by Komptek: May 20 2008, 04:55 PM

Yeah man,

I heard the same thing. From my research, the findings are mixed; 50/50. However, the best results from what I have seen come from those Electirc Turbos where the blower apparatuses are not installed within the air filter. I know someone who has an electric turbo on an old school Dodge Daytona, and is putting out some good numbers. I will find the right one on E-Bay for as cheap as possible, test it and share the results.

By the way Komptek, nice ride. I love the rims on it. I have tried the SRI's on my Accent. They make the MPG suck, badly. Plus, they hold back the horsepower. Then again, maybe they work better only in climates where the air is drier. Becuase from what I have seen, everybody who comes in here boasting about their SRI's comes from an area where the air is Drier than it is down here. Cold air is the way to go if you want Super MPG on those long trips. Well, at least from my experiences.

This post has been edited by smokefreak2003: May 20 2008, 05:19 PM

Komp,

You should tell the wife its to boost your Kilometers per Liters. I would have been that ratty lol.