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post May 15 2008, 07:05 AM
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QUOTE(Mullet @ May 15 2008, 09:48 PM)
Ok so mine was ordered on Tuesday and the dealer said 8 days for delivery white slx diesel manual . The guy said i was the luckyest man alive today as the wait is 3 months but as fait would have it the had my choice in a holding yard here in Perth. Dont know what the build date will be but i doubt it will have factory cc . Next Friday woot i30.
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post May 15 2008, 07:17 AM
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Didnt realy matter to me it wasnt my sale . I have novated leased the i30 . So i was just told to goto the dealer and they would arange a delivery date . Thus the eight days . I didnt do any of the wheeling and dealing with the dealer.
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post May 15 2008, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE(Lakes @ May 15 2008, 09:08 PM)
Did you know the CRDi uses a different method of speeding engine rev's than a petrol? so don't think you can use CC that the petrol models come with.
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mate. No I dont know.. However, knowing that the NZ CDRi's have Cruise control, this is not new. I think that Hyundai Australia just did not tick the box!.

In theory, all are drive by wire, therefore there is some sort of servo motor on the throttle (however it works) All is managed by the engine management system. So should be just a programing change...!
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post May 15 2008, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE(Mullet @ May 15 2008, 10:48 PM)
Ok so mine was ordered on Tuesday and the dealer said 8 days for delivery white slx diesel manual . The guy said i was the luckyest man alive today as the wait is 3 months but as fait would have it the had my choice in a holding yard here in Perth. Dont know what the build date will be but i doubt it will have factory cc . Next Friday woot i30.
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Mullet,
Mate, given the car is already in Australia, then it will not have factory CC. I am told that only cars built in May 2008. Therefore, these cars realisticly will not arrive in Australia until Mid to late June 2008. Then be available for delivery near the end of June. I am told that the boat mine is coming on will be the first boat that has May build cars and this is not due until end of June.

this is all what I am told / me reading between the lines..

Enjoy! :whistling:
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post May 18 2008, 06:21 AM
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Gday Dazz, Found this site you have been recommending. I have had a look a few times but been to lazy to register. Its a good site though, and dont have to put up with all those Toyota geeks and Ford freaks from that other forum.
On the subject of cruise control, i havent put it on mine yet but intend to when [if] i get a tax return, its rather pricey. I have spoken to other i30 owners who have installed an after market cruise control units and whom are reporting no problems.
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post May 18 2008, 06:36 AM
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Welcome Eyma Teapot,

Recognised your id from the caradvice forums. Wondered when you would show up. It's great to see you on here and away from those pesty Ford, Mazda, Toyota geeks. Enjoy.

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post May 18 2008, 11:34 AM
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The price for aftermarket cruise control (if u ask hyundai dealership) is between 750-950.. so shop around...
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post May 18 2008, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(bdennis @ May 15 2008, 07:17 AM)
mate. No I dont know.. However, knowing that the NZ CDRi's have Cruise control, this is not new. I think that Hyundai Australia just did not tick the box!.

In theory, all are drive by wire, therefore there is some sort of servo motor on the throttle (however it works) All is managed by the engine management system. So should be just a programing change...!
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I just ment, that with petrol the engine speed is by opening a throtle body to let more air in or less air in to regulate engine speed, but diesel just pump more or less fuel in to change engine speed no throtle body no butterfly no air regulation, just works off how much fuel , thats why diesel can be less responcive to the throtle than peterol.
i thought we had a guy from NZ come in and say they don't get factory cc on diesel?


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post May 18 2008, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(EYMA TEAPOT @ May 18 2008, 06:21 AM)
Gday Dazz, Found this site you have been recommending. I have had a look a few times but been to lazy to register. Its a good site though, and dont have to put up with all those Toyota geeks and Ford freaks from that other forum.
On the subject of cruise control, i havent put it on mine yet but intend to when [if] i get a tax return, its rather pricey. I have spoken to other i30 owners who have installed an after market cruise control units and whom are reporting no problems.
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G Day ET, :00000732: , i don't know what CC i have but it suits the SX it has buttons fitted to steering wheel and most importantly it works and is user friendly. i did 1,000k on weekend and used the CC most of the time, was very happy.
the dealer had it fitted as part of the deal.

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post May 19 2008, 06:48 AM
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Hey ET,

It's Dazz, I found your posting on another topic and welcomed you there but :00000732: again... Like Bob and some of the others on this forum I "met" through the Caradvice site I really enjoy our interactions so am very pleased you finally registered here. To make it even more complicated we are now doing a lot of postings at

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Does anyone know if the Manual CRDI's will have cruise control as standard after May?
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post May 20 2008, 06:50 PM
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Hi all I am new to forum
I recently purchased the Slx i30 crdi 5spd and when I picked up from the dealer there was no cruise control very disappointing, I had also ordered the vehicle with Esp but was advised there would of been an additional 4 month wait on top of the 2 months i had waited for the car.
I opted out of not getting the esp as we needed a second car I chose the Slx thinking that cruise control was included. Now I have been asked to fork out an additional $900 + $280 for steering controls and am very annoyed by this as I found that New Zealand had basically the same car but in SR style ( over there known as the Elite ) for basically the same price we can buy in Australia so wrote to hyundai why 10 emails later here is there response.


Danny ,

I am in receipt of your letter and email.

Vehicles imported into Australia have a 10% tariff.

There is no (Tariff ) into New Zealand. Hyundai Australia along with other vehicle importers would love the removal
of import tax. We recommend you write to the federal government in lowering import tariffs. Automotive bodies have
appealed to the federal government, currently with no success. We keep trying.

Hyundai are one of the few manufacturers which can offer ESP on each vehicle at an affordable rate. Lowering the import tariff,
would make our vehicles even more appealing.

I have contacted Autron an aftermarket supplier of cruise control systems on, 02 8745 8745, who have a RRP of $850 to $900 for installation.
You mention in your email, needing to replace half the car if an aftermarket system is installed. This is incorrect, aftermarket systems
once installed, no other vehicle parts are required to be replaced. You have miss read my previous emails, which stated, if a factory fitted cruise control
system was to be installed in Australia the ECU, wiring harness,instrument cluster and steering wheel would be the first items replaced. This would
not be cost effective, the reason why we have recommend you fit an aftermarket system. Two completely different systems, which offer the same
function. Also the cost is much lower on the aftermarket unit.

As you mentioned in your email, we do recommend you contact the media and push for mandatory safe features such as ABS, ESP and air
bags on all vehicles. Hyundai can compete with any vehicle manufacture in Australia with regards to value for money safety. Unfortunately
in reality people would prefer to have free alloy wheels instead of ESP. As a parent i find this mind blowing. The Victorian government is
pushing to have every vehicle imported into Australia to have ESP installed. Again, unfortunately, the federal government is not listening.

Regards (name supplied)


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Hi Danny Tucker, :00000732:
Sounds like your dealer was less than honest with you. You should have been informed in the first place that the car does not come with Cruise control. The 2.0 model does, Bit of a pity for us Deisel owners that we need to fork out an additional $900. Also not sure why they let you wait 2 months before telling you that you had a further 4 months for the esp model. In my experience having spoken to dealers and owners, the maximum waiting time is 3-4 months.
I didnt get the esp either. Sometimes wish I had but am otherwise delighted with my SLX crdi in steel grey. :)
You make a good point. ESP would be nice standard in the i30, but to Hyundai's credit, at least they do make it an affordable option accross their entire range.
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post May 20 2008, 09:31 PM
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Just on the after market cruise control. My dealer quoted me $700 for it to be fitted. It would then be covered under the Hyundai warranty. You can go to any auto elec to get quotes and get them to install it for you. The price for $900 plus $200 for the buttons is way over the top!

I suggest that your stealer is just that.. A Stealer. Shop around and see what you can find.
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Lakes,

Did you ever get to upload that photo of your aftermarket cruise control?
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post May 21 2008, 12:48 AM
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Ive written back to hyundai and will wait for their response and post it up here.

The dealer manager i rang again they now tell me the aftermarket unit is no longer available.
If anyone has pics of the after market cruise I would like to see one installed and the dealers that are selling them for $700 ? who are they in Syd ?

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Hi Danny,

:00000732: to the Forum see also

http://i30ownersclub.phpbb88.com/

Sorry can't help myself...

That was an interesting and fairly candid response from Hyundai after your 10 emails... Thanks for sharing it.

I copped some flack on another forum for not opting for ESP and as I got my CRDi in March didn't score Cruise either (although I was aware it wasn't on the deisel)

I did however get an alloy spare and eventually a 2nd remote key so fairly happy overall.

As I've said before Cruise is nice but even in quiet little Tassie have found myself getting baulked by slow cars and wary of using it in wet conditions so not prepared to even pay $700 to have it added now (but thats just my opinion)

Keep us posted...

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post May 21 2008, 05:16 AM
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QUOTE(aranciata-oz @ May 20 2008, 10:02 PM)
Lakes,

Did you ever get to upload that photo of your aftermarket cruise control?
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I tried a few times, the pic turned out good, but can't seem to post, and can't seem to e mail pics to my friends, might be too large? so i gave up. but i'm very happy with how it works. the system is similar to my falcons but i like it more than they one on the falcon. it works great with the CRDi motor pulls 5th @ 1,900rpm up any hill, i have never had the cc turn off from motor not being able to maintain a speed in the gear i set it in. impressive for a small 4 cylinder!
ps wish i could post it
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Hi Darryl,

My i30 came with a full sized alloy spare and a second remote too. Sounds like Hyundai does some funny things, I am really over the whole esp now besides its another gadget ive never owned previously but for cruise very important and maybe I should of researched the car a bit more afterall Europe has an cruise as accessory and NZ fitted as std and i just assumed the Slx would have it considering kiwis get it. Just didn't occur in this day in age it wouldn't be included.

The other thing that concerns me is hyundai had told me previously all these components needed replacing ""Answer is, not cost effective, as a guess you would be looking at price in the vicinity of $5000. (ECU, Instrument cluster, wiring harness, steering wheel assembly)
As this procedure has not been attempted by anyone, there is a possibility the cost could rise even higher. "" "" quoted from hyundai,

I am not a real mechanically minded person so have no idea where to start with here but hyundai just added to more of my frustration with that response.

I have contacted Autron who was recommended by Hyundai and they said for PR and legal reasons they cannot install their aftermarket cruise control in the i30 although it can be done by an installer.

My last email was to Steve Yeo ceo HMCA I think at least they can do is arrange a kit from the factory to be fitted by an authorised dealer for $500. Afterall they would sell a bucket load of them and they could do it cheaper as it would be a bulk manufacture i doubt all the components mentioned above would be replaced with the aftermarket kits.

Afterall im happy with the i30 i average 4.4litres to 4.7 city driving couldn't ask for more.

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post May 21 2008, 05:23 AM
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QUOTE(dazzling_darryl @ May 21 2008, 04:18 AM)
Hi Danny,

:00000732: to the Forum see also

http://i30ownersclub.phpbb88.com/

Sorry can't help myself...

That was an interesting and fairly candid response from Hyundai after your 10 emails... Thanks for sharing it.

I copped some flack on another forum for not opting for ESP and as I got my CRDi in March didn't score Cruise either (although I was aware it wasn't on the deisel)

I did however get an alloy spare and eventually a 2nd remote key so fairly happy overall.

As I've said before Cruise is nice but even in quiet little Tassie have found myself getting baulked by slow cars and wary of using it in wet conditions so not prepared to even pay $700 to have it added now (but thats just my opinion)

Keep us posted...

Cheers,

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what do you want ESP for Dazz?
hey i think a lot have been brainwashed with airbags! i was telling my friends 16 year old Daughter about another friend buying himself an EH holden for his 50th birthday, she asked me if it had airbag's :)
well i think for the past decade i have been driving with airbags but have never had one activate. also i personally think if you are fairdinkum about safty well fit full roll cadge and wear a fireproof suit and a crash helmet. then i'll beleive you :)
cheers


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