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abib
post Feb 29 2008, 12:33 PM
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Has any one made any modifications to there I30 yet? If Yes what kind and where are you getting your parts from ?
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post Mar 3 2008, 02:00 AM
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Hi there,

Haven't made any mods to our i30 as we only pick ours up this Fri 7th Mar. Have investigated a few things though. Inparticular, one stands out as being a really interesting addition. Let me explain ...

I cam across a thing called a DPChip for the 1.6 CRDi motor. It is a chip that plugs in after the ECU that controls the motor. Here is the Oz website http://www.dpchip.com.au/index.html

It increases power from 85kW to 100kW and torque from 255Nm to 295Nm. Cost is $1320 in Aussie dollars and comes preprogrammed for the engine with some user adjustments. It is a plug and play unit and for the i30 can be fitted in just 10 minutes. The website has all the info about warranty etc.

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post Mar 11 2008, 07:34 AM
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Hi have u got the petrol version or the desie version?

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post Mar 11 2008, 10:43 AM
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Hi All,

A company known as DTUK in the UK has a good name. Their produces are available in Australia through http://www.dieseltuningoz.com/ Their products are a lot less expensive than the one you have found in your search so far.

Might be worth visiting the UK sites. http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/index.php
and for all things diesel try http://www.dieseltalk.co.uk/phpbb/index.php
This last forum has lots of well and truly satisfied DTUK customers.

Unfortunately I am not yet a DTUK customer. [Still working on "She who must be Obeyed" :( :( ]

Good luck with the mods.
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post Mar 11 2008, 03:30 PM
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ash,

I've got the diesel version. Have had it just over 4 days now. Very happy with the economy. At this early stage I doubt if I will fit a diesel performance chip. I want to make sure everything is working to manufactuers specifications before fiddling.

Bunyip,

Thanks for the UK info. I shall have a look at it when I have more time. It may be the same chip anyway.

Aussie Bob
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post Mar 12 2008, 12:59 AM
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My friend fitted something like that to his VW Jetta TDI and made a big difference, but the VW diesel is not common rail, at least his is'nt. i think the gizmo he used turns up fuel pressure . his unit is easy to fit and remove has letter adjustments from a to f i think.
have you ever saw LPGas with Diesel? a friend has a common rail Mercedes Benz with LPGas said 20% more power and 20% more economy it only uses a small amount of LPGas and it add's to the diesel going into chamber supposed to cause better atomization and cleaner more com pleat burn just have to fit a small LPGas bottle somewhere, he has this in a Sprinter Van..
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post Mar 12 2008, 03:50 AM
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Havn't received my i30 yet but am still making lists of what mods to do to it heh. First things will be getting colour coded door handles (wondering even what chrome ones would look like?) window tint, and 17" wheels. Hopefully later on the track i'll invest in a nice audio/visual system and one of these chips you guys are talking about.

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Might be worth visiting the UK sites. http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/index.php  and for all things diesel try http://www.dieseltalk.co.uk/phpbb/index.php  This last forum has lots of well and truly satisfied DTUK customers.


I couldn't find the i30 on this page, could you please point me in the proper direction Bun-yip?

The chip my partner keeps banging on about is at P-tronic - www.ptronic.com.
At $988AUD (with no shipping cost added in checkout), they claim they can bring 85kW upto 111 and 255Nm upto 326.

Is this too good to be true? What is the difference between diesel perfomance chips? Like Aussie Bob I also worry about fiddling with the motor :S


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post Mar 12 2008, 03:04 PM
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Opps my mistake. :blush:

I forgot to mention that.. No entry for the i30 or Kia Cee'd yet (for anyone who has not heard they are non identical twins). From what I have seen in the dieseltalk forums Andrew (Mr DTUK) would be happy to oblige if he had a serious enquiry. If it comes from a UK i30 or Cee'd owner I suspect he would probably invite them along for a test installation. If from an "overseas" customer he could be expected to do his best. Have a look at the diesel talk forum entries. I've seen lots of people posting thanks for his going the extra mile.
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post Apr 16 2008, 04:18 PM
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If you made any modification on your engine you will loose warranty ! Think about that . I am full satisfied with my engine and performance at all ... The best way to boost performance is to loose weight :) ....
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post Apr 16 2008, 04:26 PM
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With the chip you could take it out and no-one would suspect a thing (that's what my bf has been telling me anyway!) How about other stuff though like tyres, what is the deal with these and warranty??
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post Apr 16 2008, 04:44 PM
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off course , you can change tires and wheels but I find that my cars is already so handsome that is no need to spend extra money for beauty .... its time to spend money for adventure across the Europe ...travel around , feel the wild wind of German autobahn (highway) with no speed limits !!! :)
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post Apr 16 2008, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(catman @ Apr 16 2008, 04:44 PM)
off course , you can change tires and wheels  but I find that my cars is already so handsome that is no need to spend extra money for  beauty .... its time to spend money for adventure across the Europe ...travel around , feel the wild wind of German autobahn  (highway) with no speed limits !!!  :)
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That's the spirit m8! :beer:
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post Apr 16 2008, 10:39 PM
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If you made any modification on your engine you will loose warranty ! Think about that . I am full satisfied with my engine and performance at all ... The best way to boost performance is to loose weight :) ....
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Hey Jessi30 the shining light of the i30 Forum, could you please ask the bf what a chip is? like what does it tell you? what it tell's me is it goes with fish for a fast feed :57: Sorry i must be on a roll, just having lunch here. the reason i'm saying this is the term Chip is just used very loosly, i have seen these chip's used then tested on an engine dyno and the motors made less power and Torque. to gain power and TQ with adjustments to the fuel and ignition curves on a petrol motor is a long slow process and you need an expert tuner, most of the experts that sell these Chips are just expert salemen, i have yet to meet a top tuning brain with a web page, but i have meet lots of salemen that are expert's online at coning people that have web pages.
what i call these unit's is a piggy back that you plug into the ECU and can use them to over ride the settings in the ECU. but nothing is Free you always pay more for these things, like not directly but in directly, like more power, more Torque just means more wear and tear so things wear out a bit quicker, warranty's don't cover normal wear they just cover breakage or failure.
having said that, would i use one of these piggy back gizmo's? :beer: Yeh :grin: but just want to tell you as it is as your the life of the forum. :)
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post Apr 17 2008, 04:52 AM
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I'm not the light! Dazzling Dazza is!! lol!

The 'Chip' looks like a plug in box.. bf says he has looked at a few and this one seemed ligit?? I dunno. Claims more torque whilst using less fuel. How it manages this I dunno, sounds too good to be true to me, but he thinks it's good. Also one of the cheaper than other 'chips' (:P) i've seen..

here's a link for it. Some analysis by people who know what they're talking about would be greatly appreciated!! (not saying my bf doesn't, bless his cotton socks!!) :grin:

http://www.ptronic.com/

Jess.
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post Apr 17 2008, 05:11 AM
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QUOTE(jessi3 @ Apr 17 2008, 04:52 AM)
I'm not the light! Dazzling Dazza is!! lol!

The 'Chip' looks like a plug in box.. bf says he has looked at a few and this one seemed ligit?? I dunno. Claims more torque whilst using less fuel. How it manages this I dunno, sounds too good to be true to me, but he thinks it's good. Also one of the cheaper than other 'chips' (:P) i've seen..

here's a link for it. Some analysis by people who know what they're talking about would be greatly appreciated!! (not saying my bf doesn't, bless his cotton socks!!)  :grin:

http://www.ptronic.com/

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Good one Jessi ( about Dazz ) :)
Well i think i have not fully explained myself, i was really talking about petrol motors when i said i have seen some chips fitted that made less power and Torque.
But with a Diesel it is not as hard to make more power and Torque with these systems. i don't beleave that any of them yet are custom tuned to the i30 CRDi but they will still plug in and show a power gain just i do not beleave, or i'm just guessing no one has really spent time with one in a i30 on a dyno as yet. but what they say is there is only really two ECU's the Bosch and the Denso , so they just sell you the plug in for your unit, so if i got one i would want it with adjustment built in so i could custom it to what i want, i would just have to spend time on a Dyno. but basic wth a Diesel you just add more fuel they will make more power, there is more too it but i'm sure they work.
About the increase in economy, they are mostly refuring to these units when they go into 4WD and heavier aplications. but if you can increase Torque at lower revs and you drive carefully and use the right gear to get full use of the extra Torque at lower revs you could see an economy gain, but if you just drive it hard and use all the extra Torque and Power the unit has added well then you will probably see a loss in economy.
hope this helps.
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post Apr 17 2008, 05:38 AM
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So now Jessi and Others,

We have three options that have been mentioned as possibilities. They all seem to connect in the same way, that is after the engines ECU. Therefore, as the suppliers claim, they do not alter the engines control system.

The one I has mentioned DPChip http://www.dpchip.com.au

The one Lakes has mentioned http://dieseltuner.com.au/

The one you you (Jessi) has mentioned http://www.ptronic.com/

They may well be the same product underneath the casing. Having looked at the websites, I suspect each contains a programable chip (dare I mention that word) that can be set up for each engine. I also suggest they have a user alterable setting so the user can play with the settings as well. Look at the DPChip website and you will find that the product mentioned there can be setup using a computer program connected to the device. I suspect that can be done to each. Further reading of the DPChip site and the information given there reveals that the chips they provide are especially tuned for Australian conditions (fuel and climate) for each engine type.

Everyone can make up there own mind. Read the information, ask the questions, way up the warranty issues, etc.

But then again, I like Catman's advice "The best way to boost performance is to loose weight ...."

Bob

PS Have corrected the url for the unit Lakes refered to as I had it wrong - sorry Lakes.

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post Apr 17 2008, 06:13 AM
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QUOTE(tjaliwalpa @ Apr 17 2008, 05:38 AM)
So now Jessi and Others,

We have three options that have been mentioned as possibilities.  They all seem to connect in the same way, that is after the engines ECU.  Therefore, as the suppliers claim, they do not alter the engines control system.

The one I has mentioned DPChip http://www.dpchip.com.au

The one Lakes has mentioned http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk

The one you you (Jessi) has mentioned http://www.ptronic.com/

They may well be the same product underneath the casing.  Having looked at the websites, I suspect each contains a programable chip (dare I mention that word) that can be set up for each engine.  I also suggest they have a user alterable setting so the user can play with the settings as well.  Look at the DPChip website and you will find that the product mentioned there can be setup using a computer program connected to the device.  I suspect that can be done to each.  Further reading of the DPChip site and the information given there reveals that the chips they provide are especially tuned for Australian conditions (fuel and climate) for each engine type.

Everyone can make up there own mind.  Read the information, ask the questions, way up the warranty issues, etc. 

But then again, I like Catman's advice "The best way to boost performance is to loose weight  ...."

Bob
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Bob sorry m8 that's not the one i was refuring too, but your right they are all the same, will go see DP chip and ask to see the or a i30 CRDi they have set up maybe test drive if possible. let you know what happens.
i know we used to use dirty old diesel fuel here, but now we have the newer cleaner diesel thats why all the euro manufacturers send there late model diesels here, if we still used to old dirty diesel they would not do that, USA is starting to upgrade to the later diesel fuels too.
John
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