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 Feb 5 2008, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(bobad @ Sep 18 2007, 02:04 PM) PM,
Are your driving conditions considered to be extreme? If so, 30K is right. For normal driving conditions, 105K is the change interval for tranny fluid.
If 30K, you may be able to get the fluid cheaper by the gallon. Without checking, I suppose it takes in the neighborhood of 2 or 3 gallons.
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My transmission guy recommends against these 30K changes. He says the fluids have detergents in them and cause the paper like plates to deteriorate.
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Feb 5 2008, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(craig04c5 @ Feb 5 2008, 07:02 PM) My transmission guy recommends against these 30K changes. He says the fluids have detergents in them and cause the paper like plates to deteriorate.
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What does your transmission guy recommend?
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Feb 6 2008, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE(Aerostar_ca @ Feb 5 2008, 08:15 PM) What does your transmission guy recommend?
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I was changing our Taurus at the 30K recommended interval and the trans failed at 104K and I told him that I could not understand why it failed. He told me I may have actually contributed to the failure. He told me that it applied to all auto transmissions so I am not going to change the Sonata at 30K. He recommended that I follow the non-severe recommendation regardless of how I drive.
This post has been edited by craig04c5: Feb 6 2008, 02:10 PM
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Feb 6 2008, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(craig04c5 @ Feb 6 2008, 07:45 AM) I was changing our Taurus at the 30K recommended interval and the trans failed at 104K and I told him that I could not understand why it failed. He told me I may have actually contributed to the failure. He told me that it applied to all auto transmissions so I am not going to change the Sonata at 30K. He told me to follow the non-severe recommendation regardless of how I drive.
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100k is pretty good for a ford tranny. We had some Taurus cars in our fleet a few years ago and we saw some trans failures at 75k.
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Feb 7 2008, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(wymi @ Feb 6 2008, 10:20 AM) 100k is pretty good for a ford tranny. We had some Taurus cars in our fleet a few years ago and we saw some trans failures at 75k.
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Yes, it seems the Taurus has a problem with the transmissions. We had one previous to the 2002 and it also failed at around 115K miles.
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Feb 7 2008, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(wymi @ Feb 3 2008, 11:50 AM) "The 4 cyl. only uses 6.75 quarts total." Perry, where did you get the above info? According to my owners manual the 4 speed holds 8.24 qts & the 5 speed holds 11.52 qts. I am going out today to pick up some Castrol ATF and hopefully do the drain & refill soon. I will get 10 qts & just save what ever I don't use for the next drain. (IMG: http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj287/wymi/Import_MV_ATF282_648.jpg) [right][snapback]134487[/snapback][/right] You're right, I goofed and looked at the Imperial quart info. Good thing the 5 quarts I bought were enough. BTW, you're right about the way the 5 speed auto on the 3.3 shifts. I have just recently been driving the wife's Santy more often and it kind of falls flat when shifting as if the friction modifiers aren't allowing the clutches to slip enough. Didn't notice it at first cuase it has so much more power than the 2.4, you don't really have to gun it. Got anothe 26K miles to go on the Santy until I have to change the tranny fluid on it so I'll wait. After driving a Nissan Murano with that crappy CVT, the 5 speed in the Santy is a heck of a lot better.
This post has been edited by Perry Manessis: Feb 7 2008, 01:38 PM
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Feb 14 2008, 10:20 AM
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After 1,500 miles on the Castrol Import Multi-Vehicle ATF, here's what I have to say. Better shifting in all driving conditions, part throttle, full throttle, downshifting and upshifting. It doesn't fall flat on it's face when upshifting and shifts much smoother and quicker. The friction modifiers help keep it from falling flat on it's face while upshifting, probably due to less abrasive friction modifiers that allow the clutches to slip a little more, keeping the gears spooled up. I did some more snooping around and found that the Pennzoil and Quaker State Multi-Vehicle/Mercon V ATF is approved for Hyundai and Mitsubishi SP III. Turns out, that Mercon V uses the same friction modifiers as our SP III. See the links below. Basically any Multi Vehicle/Mercon V ATF will work well. Mobil 1 and Valvoline have full synthetics available. DO NOT use Chrysler ATF 3/4, they use friction modifiers that will cause too much slippage. http://www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/Domestic...issionFluid.pdfhttp://www.quakerstate.com/pds/TDS%20Multi...issionFluid.pdf
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Feb 14 2008, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(Perry Manessis @ Feb 14 2008, 10:20 AM) After 1,500 miles on the Castrol Import Multi-Vehicle ATF, here's what I have to say. Better shifting in all driving conditions, part throttle, full throttle, downshifting and upshifting. It doesn't fall flat on it's face when upshifting and shifts much smoother and quicker. The friction modifiers help keep it from falling flat on it's face while upshifting, probably due to less abrasive friction modifiers that allow the clutches to slip a little more, keeping the gears spooled up. I did some more snooping around and found that the Pennzoil and Quaker State Multi-Vehicle/Mercon V ATF is approved for Hyundai and Mitsubishi SP III. Turns out, that Mercon V uses the same friction modifiers as our SP III. See the links below. Basically any Multi Vehicle/Mercon V ATF will work well. Mobil 1 and Valvoline have full synthetics available. DO NOT use Chrysler ATF 3/4, they use friction modifiers that will cause too much slippage. http://www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/Domestic...issionFluid.pdfhttp://www.quakerstate.com/pds/TDS%20Multi...issionFluid.pdf[right][snapback]136868[/snapback][/right] Good info, thanks for the update on how your trans is doing with the Castrol. Did you use your original drain plug washer when you did the change?
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Feb 14 2008, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(ddix1026 @ Feb 14 2008, 10:48 AM) Perry, where did you purchase this? (do places like Pep Boys, etc. sell it?)
and how much was it? i see a price online for almost $4 per quart...
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Perry said he paid $3.99 a quart at Auto Zone.
This post has been edited by wymi: Feb 14 2008, 11:56 AM
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Feb 24 2008, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(craigbrooks @ Feb 23 2008, 10:50 PM) Sorry to revive an old thread but I just pulled the trigger on the Castrol Import Multi Vehicle ATF fluid. Had to ORDER it thru the local Checker store. $3.79/qt. I am planning a flush in the next two weeks. 16 qts for that. I AM LOOKING forward to it. The better performance not PAYING for the flush. If it works out where do I send your finders fee Perry? :beer: If not, where do I send the bill? :w00t: :laughing:
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Let us know how it goes. How are you planning to do the flush? I went to two different AZ's trying to find the castrol and they had about 10 quarts between the two stores. Every bottle of the stuff I looked at looked like it had leaked or been sitting there a long time.
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