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> Is City Mpg *really* 28 ?, hard to believe
jayselantra2
post Jul 25 2007, 03:41 PM
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I was just at my dealer for an oil change and noticed the new '07 lists MPG as 28/34. I find that hard to believe. It's well documented how easy it is for automakers to game EPA tests (i.e., Honda Odyssey EX's famous false rating of 24/30 which actually is 17/20). Can anyone who owns an '07 confirm the actual MPG?
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post Jul 25 2007, 04:09 PM
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Dear Jay,

Yes, the 2007 Elantra can get 28 mpg city and 36 mpg highway once the engine and transmission are broken in.
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicle/comparis...20458&year=2007
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/o...s/060109a.shtml
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/02/epa_mpg.html

to get that mileage, you have to follow some rules.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml

Only one passenger weighing under 250 lbs.
No baggage or excess weight in the car.
Not exceed 56 mph in city
Not exceed 60 mph on highway.
Air conditioner off.
Windows closed.
Tires inflated to 35 psi.
Relatively level terrain.
Use the cruise control.

Byron
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jayselantra2
post Jul 26 2007, 12:22 PM
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there's another thread in this forum that relays real world MPG, sorry I didn't catch that. before posting this.

But incidently, it really bothers me how even Hyundai is now using those strict EPA conditions to determine fuel economy. It's like an engineering exercise being used as corporate marketing, it's so intentionally deceptive. I mean, who cares what the theoretical maximum is for fuel economy? To be honest, they should post a range, like "vehicle loaded with 4 occupants and luggage with AC on in hilly city streets" and then "zen-like perfect driving conditions". Then it would be honest. We could just pick a number in the middle and have a good idea what the real MPG will be.
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post Jul 27 2007, 09:23 AM
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The new EPA criteria for reporting are infinitely more applicable to driving conditions in 2007 than the old criteria. I think the hwy portion of the testing sees speeds up to 80 mph, and the city portion has higher rates of acceleration. I also think they use vehicles with a realistic number of comfort options like A/C (running) and power accessories.

What's really weird is, after driving my Elantra (and it's way-off speedometer) during the week, I drive a lot slower in my wife's Ford Escape on the weekends. I think it's because the Elantra is so quiet, I drive the Escape at a speed that makes the same amount of noise, which in the Escape, is much slower than the Elantra. Like I said, it's weird.

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post Jul 29 2007, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(byronguidry3732 @ Jul 25 2007, 04:09 PM)
Dear Jay,

Yes, the 2007 Elantra can get 28 mpg city and 36 mpg highway once the engine and transmission are broken in. 
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicle/comparis...20458&year=2007
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/o...s/060109a.shtml
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/02/epa_mpg.html

to get that mileage, you have to follow some rules.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml

Only one passenger weighing under 250 lbs.
No baggage or excess weight in the car.
Not exceed 56 mph in city
Not exceed 60 mph on highway.
Air conditioner off.
Windows closed.
Tires inflated to 35 psi.
Relatively level terrain.
Use the cruise control.

Byron
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So basically NEVER.
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post Feb 6 2008, 07:24 PM
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I'm on my third tank in my '08 and am getting a consistent 28 mpg just normal driving around town, no special effort to conserve.
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post Feb 6 2008, 09:12 PM
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My dad has almost 12,000 miles on his 07 and he gets 26mpg combined, alot better then his 02 Elantra GT
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post Apr 17 2008, 03:11 PM
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The number sounds about right with my experience with my 07. I've had a lot of miles on it, 30k, and currently my driving is about 65% Highway, 35% surface streets and I'm getting around 33 mpg.

I actually drive like a normal person not a slug like the old MPG estimates require.

The 28mpg is pretty reasonable.
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post Apr 18 2008, 05:38 AM
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QUOTE(jayselantra2 @ Jul 26 2007, 01:22 PM)
there's another thread in this forum that relays real world MPG, sorry I didn't catch that.  before posting this.

But incidently, it really bothers me how even Hyundai is now using those strict EPA conditions to determine fuel economy.  It's like an engineering exercise being used as corporate marketing, it's so intentionally deceptive.  I mean, who cares what the theoretical maximum is for fuel economy?  To be honest, they should post a range, like "vehicle loaded with 4 occupants and luggage with AC on in hilly city streets" and then "zen-like perfect driving conditions".  Then it would be honest.  We could just pick a number in the middle and have a good idea what the real MPG will be.
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I know this is an OLD thread, but...
Well how else would you want car makers to advertise fuel economy? " On a closed course with professional drivers?" How about a car stripped of all non-essential equipment, and driven at a constant 25 mph? How about downhill with the engine off?
You simply MUST have rigid rules if you are going to allow fuel mileage a place in advertising.
Wheteher the real world mileage is the same is a different question.
The benefit to fourm like this one is to get that real-world information.
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post Apr 18 2008, 07:41 AM
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QUOTE(MS Fowler @ Apr 18 2008, 06:38 AM)
I know this is an OLD thread, but...
Well how else would you want car makers to advertise fuel economy? " On a closed course with professional drivers?"  How about a car stripped of all non-essential equipment, and driven at a constant 25 mph?  How about downhill with the engine off?
You simply MUST have rigid rules if you are going to allow fuel mileage a place in advertising. 
Wheteher the real world mileage is the same is a different question.
The benefit to fourm like this one is to get that real-world information.
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post May 16 2008, 11:47 AM
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Hi there, My car has a 1.6L engine... and so far using 91oct fuel, the car is making 44kmsper galon... it'll be like 27mpg aprox city driving some times with a/c some times not and driving normal.

And high way or open road it'll be around 45mpg... at 100km/hr maybe 95 km/hr
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post May 16 2008, 02:31 PM
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Fuel quality is a very important factor that is ignored too many times! Quality differs from pump to pump. Octanes may be the same value but quality isn't. It really affects car's mileage. Have this fact considered if u have high consumption with no reason.


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