Let's slug it out, civilized like. The best of bench racing. We're NOT talking about modded cars but as they come from the factory. Chevy vs BMW vs Ford vs MB vs Dodge vs Lambo vs Whatever - but it has to be best Bang for the Buck. I'll even start if off !

Corvette Z06 @ ~70k
0-60 under 4 seconds
Top Speed > 190mph
Skidpad > 1G

Next ? :thumbsup:

Way back in 1977, my barber told me to forget about Muffstangs, and Camaros, and find a nice Alpine Sunbeam Tiger, with a small V8. I hadn't even seen one, but many years later I did, and that would have been a nice ride.

Alpine Sunbeam Tiger, or Sunbeam Alpine Tiger????

Next?

I thought I was always the BEST BANG FOR A BUCK!!!! (Heck, I'd go as low as 50¢.)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbeam_Tiger

This post has been edited by motd: Jul 5 2007, 11:30 PM

Dodge Viper SRT 10

Six hundred horsepower; 560 lb-ft of torque. No - we're not kidding. The 2008 Viper SRT is bigger and badder than ever. The new 8.4 liter V10 engine with new intake and exhaust manifolds deliver 0 to 60 mph in less than 4 seconds. Or, just about the same time it'll take you to catch your breath.

V10 ENGINE -
The 8.4-liter engine has a new cylinder block and modified cylinder heads with variable valve timing (VVT).REAR DIFFERENTIAL -
New, stronger GKN Visco-Lok limited-slip rear differentials.TRANSMISSION -
The Viper's transmission upgrade increases shift quality and torque capacity for a whopping 600 horsepower.

1.05 g of taut handling on the road or on the track.

100% MANUAL -
Rear-wheel-drive and a six-speed manual transmission means precise shifting.
BRAKES -
Brembo® 44/40 dual opposing piston calipers in the front, Brembo® 42/38 dual opposing calipers in the rear, 14-inch rotors all the way around. Brake at 60-0 mph in fewer than 100 feet.
ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM -
Standard four-wheel-disc antilock brake system (ABS) with brake assist.

Hello Vette !!

2008 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster
2-door convertible, production car
617 bhp @ ---- rpm

2007 Mercedes-Benz CLK DTM AMG Cabriolet
2-door convertible, production car
582 bhp @ 6100 rpm

2007 Bentley Continental GTC
2-door convertible, production car
552 bhp @ 6100 rpm Oh yeah....for the buck ! Viper or Vette

This post has been edited by Brazzel: Jul 6 2007, 04:19 AM

You must have missed the "for the buck" part, so those bottom three are completely out of contention. The SLR is over $452,000. Spend an additional 10k on the Vette and all three are a goner.

Might as well go for broke and get a Veyron, with a top speed of 253, 1006hp, quad turbo V-16, 0-60 in 2.5s. Even though it's got the Bugatti name on it it's built by VW. :)

The Viper is always a contender for the Vette and I love Vipers ! I do think the original body style looks much more aggressive than the new body style. Looks sort of like an S2000 with a little more muscular bodywork.

I do like the Sunbeam too, like the little brother of the original Cobra. Now, if you could pack a 427 into that ... There was one for sale here in town a few months ago sans engine. That would have made a great project car.

Looking forward to seeing this baby too ~~>The all-new Dodge Challenger will make its debut as a 2008 model, in calendar-year 2008. It will have the available 5.7-liter or SRT-engineered 6.1-liter HEMI® V-8 engines coupled to either a five-speed manual transmission or five-speed automatic transmission with Auto Stick"
370 Cubic Inch (6.1-liter) HEMI Specifications:

Dimensions are in inches (millimeters) unless otherwise noted.


ENGINE: SRT 6.1-LITER HEMI® V-8
Type and Description: 90-degree V-type, liquid-cooled
Displacement: 370 cu. in. (6059 cu. cm)
Bore x Stroke: 4.06 in. x 3.58 in. (103.0 x 90.9)
Valve System: Pushrod-operated overhead valves, 16 valves, conventional hydraulic lifters, all with roller followers.
Fuel Injection: Sequential, multi-port, electronic, returnless.
Construction: Deep-skirt cast-iron block with cross-bolted main bearing caps, aluminum alloy heads with hemispherical combustion chambers
Compression Ratio: 10.3:1
Power (estimated SAE net): 425 bhp (318 kW) @ 6000 rpm, (69.8 bhp/L)
Torque (estimated SAE net): 420 lb.-ft. (569 N•m) @ 4800 rpm
Max. Engine Speed: 6400 rpm (electronically limited)
Fuel Requirement: Premium recommended
Oil Capacity: 7 qt. (6.6L)
Coolant Capacity: 14 qt. (13.25L)
Emission Controls: Dual close-coupled three-way catalytic converters, quad heated oxygen sensors and internal engine features

Crap, I forgot to even mention the "much rumored" Corvette SS aka Blue Devil aka Stingray aka Mako Shark aka Z07. It's supposed to have a supercharged 427 putting out ~650hp with 0-60 < 3.5 seconds. Production is supposed to start the first quarter of 2008.

I'm a huge Challenger/Cuda fan ! I can't wait to see that badboy on the streets. Also looking out for the new Camaro as well. I can only imagine that GM will come out with a new Camaro SS with an LS2 in it.

Love Cudas as well. The best looking 70's muscle car, period. Hemi Cuda convertible, plum crazy, 426 Hemi.

Dear Santa:
I've been a good little f*cker this year, please bring me one of the above mentioned.

Tommy :innocent:



http://money.cnn.com/2003/06/26/pf/autos/cuda/


This post has been edited by motd: Jul 7 2007, 10:40 PM

2008 Pontiac Trans Am Concept - The Goat Takes A Vacation
-- And What Of A New Trans Am?


UPDATE! Sources say the new GTO is a 2009 model and will be available in late 2008. Keep glued to the website for the latest info!



Deja vu 1974--gas prices are high and the GTO is once again cancelled for the following year. Buick-Pontiac-GMC General Manager John Larson broke the news to dealers in a video clip on Tuesday, February 21, 2006. He says the cancellation of the GTO is due to '07 airbag standards that cannot be met with the current car. We're sure it didn't hurt that the GTO sold only 15,728 units in 2004 and just 11,069 in 2005, while it was scheduled for production of 18,000 for those two years. The possible peripheral reasons are many--some cite a snubbing by the GTO faithful, others say it was too expensive, and still more lament the body styling. While we all can be Monday morning quarterbacks, the fact remains that Pontiac once again will be without a rear-drive V-8 performance car by 2007. But for how long? Just over a week after the cancellation notice, we seemingly got an answer.

General Motors Vice President for Global Product Development Bob Lutz stated during the Geneva motor show that a new GTO would arrive based on the new Camaro's and Holden Commodore's Zeta platform in late 2008, as reported by AutoWeek.

HPP contacted Jim Hopson, Pontiac GMC Manager of Communications for confirmation. On March 6, 2006, Jim stated, "Nothing has been confirmed yet. There is nothing on the production schedule, but Bob Lutz's comments are very intriguing, and we have been working toward this. However, we have nothing to announce at this point."

Possibly, all will be confirmed by the time you read this magazine. Our questions, which remain unanswered at this time, are as follows:


Will the GTO be released at the same time as the Camaro?
Hopson shared that one of the problems GM was facing bringing the Camaro and GTO to market was the cost of its proposed platform Zeta. "It was too expensive in its original configuration to keep the retail price point where it needed to be, so the program was put on hold." We heard rumors of a possible Zeta-Lite based on design changes to Zeta that would provide cost reductions. Will the new GTO, Camaro, and Commodore be built on this Zeta-Lite platform?
Will the GTO be built in the United States, or Australia alongside the Commodore sedan?
Which engine(s) will power the GTO, and how will its power rating compare with the Camaro?
And what of a rumored Firebird rebirth?

Check the various enthusiast and auto-related news Web sites, and it's claimed the Camaro is on its way, and a Firebird won't be far behind. At Geneva, however, Lutz reportedly said no to reviving the Firebird. Are the Web sites getting accurate Deep Throat inside information, or is it simply wishful thinking directed toward the hope of a self-fulfilling prophecy? Time will tell.

Whatever the case, the current GTO is a great-performing car even if it hasn't sold well. When production ends, the performance division of GM will be lacking a model with a V-8 torturing the rear tires for two years. Currently, Ford can't build Mustangs fast enough, Dodge has the Charger and the Magnum on the road, and its Challenger concept is driving everyone crazy, much like the Camaro. As you can see, from a performance standpoint, Pontiac can ill afford not to field a competitive model should all these retro-performers continue to grow in popularity.

Despite Lutz's current comments on the likelihood of a new Firebird, aficionados of the model who have held out hope for a resurrection since the F-body's demise in 2002 see the Camaro as a great opportunity do reintroduce the legendary ponycar.

HPP reader Kevin Morgan has provided us with his take on a modern-day Trans Am should GM decide to change its corporate mind, and Kevin's illustration has been popular fodder for hobbyists. "I honestly never dreamed that these drawings would create such a stir." Kevin told us, regarding the Internet buzz over his series of drawings on www.transamcountry.com. "I drew them because of my love for the Trans Am and love of drawing. I just wish we could get our Firebirds and Trans Ams back!" Perhaps if we yell loud enough, GM will oblige, or will the Pontiac-buying masses be satisfied instead with an all-new GTO? What are your thoughts?

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/superca...shing-a-veyron/

Other then the obvious choice of a Dodge Viper RT-10.. from <96 when they still had chrome sidepipes.

Id go with the new BMW 333xi. Pretty quick. Nice looking. Not outrageuously priced either. I think its a sharp car. I like it alot. Definetly hoping to pick one up soon. :wub:


Sooo.

IMO

Viper or 333xi FTW

nismo skyline ftw! :banana:

New or used, price range, straight line or turns, on or off road? Have some better guide lines. All Iv'e seen here is hp related. A Viper would suck off road, a Lotus Elise would tear it up on a short autocross course, an Insite would dominate in gas milage, ect. :wacko: I know you said bench racing, but theres so much more.
Bill
Under $5 grand used and less then 10 years old:
Late '90s ZX2 - gas milage, best power to weight ratio under $5k, engine modifications galore, and if you wreck it...Who cares! :P

This post has been edited by billyboy24d: Oct 4 2007, 02:13 PM

Bang for the Buck is a coined Car and Driver phrase and typically means best performance car for the money. Not best gas mileage or best off-road capability. The Elise is about comparable to an S2000 on the autoX course, good call.

Feel free though to start up another "Best 4x4 Bang for the Buck" or any others. I think the Segway would win for gas mileage :) or any scooter.

bang for the buck...1994 nissan b13 with a gtir swap with technically its still got a oem power plant...hehehe...4 grand and you bought the car built the car and beat it daily.....oh yeah and run 12s or faster...... :whistling:



the lotus is my show room stock choice

This post has been edited by TOOSLO: Oct 4 2007, 07:33 PM

If you want bang for buck overall, I would go with a Noble M12 GTO 3-R :wink2:
Under $80 grand 0-60 in 3.3, twin turbo Ford V6(cheap parts), and slick lines. The quarter-mile in 11.8 seconds at 118 mph, and it pulled an even 1.00 g on the skidpad.

Caterham or PRB Clubman. No production car on 4 wheels quicker to 200k/mh. Go-kart handling. Eats Ferraris, Porsches and Lambo's. Winding road wonder.