Hi everyone,
I'm new here and just bought my hyundia accent 1997 from a auto auction ( I know now bad idea )
Anyways its a automatic transmission.
Heres the problems:
when I put the car into drive it reves up almost to the redline and goes nowhere. In order for me to get it to go I have to put it in L (low) let it go in low for a wile them shift it to drive. If I come to a stop before the car is wormed up it falls out of gear agian and in order to get it to go agian I have to put t back into low. if its wormed up and i have been driving for awile with out stoping I can come to a stop and it wont fall out of gear and theres no problems. Its only when its not wormed up.
I looked at the fluid its not red but not black...kind of brown.
Can anyone help me/
jessica

Hi,
Sounds like the sprag-clutch is worn. When you select "L", the tranny applies the L/R-brake, which overrides the sprag-clutch. Once things warmed up, due to expansion, the sprag seems to be able to operate again.
To fix this, the best is to replace the tranny with a HYUNDAI remanufactured tranny. BUT, it is not that urgent, the way you drive the car right now (by selecting “L”), the replacement can be prolonged till you have the time & money. By selecting “L”, you are only helping the tranny, and you do no harm to it.

Hi I was hopeing not to hear that, but I kind of figured I needed a new or rebuild tranny.
a few question,
Will chaning the fluid help/ or worsent it? I was told by someone not to change it .
whats the price of a rebuild tranny usd? I cant afford something too crazy.
How long do you think it will last the way it is? m not sure how long it has been like this as I bought it this way.
Is there anyway I can drive it to prolong the tranny.
Also when I put it low it makes this rumble noise any ide what that is?
sorry bout all the questioins. but thanks for the help!!
Jessica

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This post has been edited by soullink: Dec 29 2004, 05:31 AM

Could you tell us how many miles it has on the odo? Thanks.

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This post has been edited by soullink: Dec 29 2004, 05:31 AM

just over 100k like 101k if that....

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This post has been edited by soullink: Dec 29 2004, 05:32 AM

Thanks. I would replace the ATF before writing off the transmission.
You can have it done at a Hyundai dealer or get the SP-III ATF from Hyundai, Kia or Mitsubishi dealer and take the car to any shop that has the fluid change machine. ONLY USE THE SP-III ATF.
Good luck.

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This post has been edited by soullink: Dec 29 2004, 05:32 AM

I'm not changing the fluid intill I have enought monney to get a new or rebuilt tranny. I have been told by many people that if I get it changed probly wont go from there, don't want to take that chance till I know I can get a new one....

is it possaible to just get the cluch fixed I have been told by a few poeple that thats the problem.... cant they just change the cluch and not the whole tranny/
Thanks Jessica

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This post has been edited by soullink: Dec 29 2004, 05:33 AM

The “sprag-clutch” is a mechanical one-way clutch, and an ATF change would make no difference.
The way you drive the car right now (by pulling of in “L”) is quite OK and will do no harm to the tranny. In a matter of fact, shifting this way, you shift like the “SHIFTRONIC” trannies way (which is the latest craze). You can drive that way for a loooong time. Don’t worry; you can’t mess up the tranny this way, because the tranny-computer will not complete the shift if it is not safe for the tranny or the engine.

Inquire at several dealers for the cost of a reman transmission, it cost more to repair it.

This post has been edited by duke: Dec 22 2004, 09:18 AM

Yes, they can change the clutch only,but that's not the problem. You don't have the shift problem when the car is fully warmed-up, right?
Check the ATF level again.

1. Drive the car until the car is fully warmed up.
2. Park the car on a level surface. With the engine running, move the shift lever through each gear, then to "Neutral" (do not check ATF level in the Park position as this may result in an incorrect reading).
3. Do not turn off the engine. Check the ATF level on the dipstick. It must be within the "HOT" range.

http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/iindex.a...0107#_394890107

This post has been edited by Delphi: Dec 22 2004, 01:25 PM

Hi all thanks so much
I had my dad drve it today he said he thinks its the torque convortor (SP)
I checked the fluid today wile it was hot. Its red (kind of brown but more red) but smells burnt not gritty stuff in it or anything... I dont know what to do at this point. Change the fluid or not...
Happy Holidays,
Jessica

If it smells burnt, you need to change it asap. There's a very good chance that wrong type of fluid is in there.

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This post has been edited by soullink: Dec 29 2004, 05:33 AM

I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY QUITE A FEW EXP MACANICANS NOT TO CHANGE IT.... BECAUSE MY CLUCH IS OUT...THE OLD FLUID HELPS TO CHANGE THE GEARS I'M SCARED TO CHANGE IT... ITS MY ONLY CAR....IM SCARED TO CHANGE IT ,.. WHAT DO I DO? DAMN CAR AUCTIONS! THERE THIEFS THEY STEEAL PEOPLES HARD EARNED MONEY. SORRY BOUT THE CAPS....
YOUR GUYS ARE GREAT I LVE THE ADVICE I LOOK FOWARD TO IT OFTEN.
JESSICA

Hi agian,
What is the effets of the wronge tipe of fluid .... could it cause all this crazyness?

Jessica, trust me..they don't know whether that clutch in question is "out" or what. Nobody knows that until the transmission is opened up.
It's very unlikely the one-way clitch is damaged since the tranny shifts right when it's warmed up.

If you put wrong type of fluid, the clutches and bands in the transmission cannot make proper contacts as designed, it's likely to slip more, generates more heat, accelerating wear of the friction materials.

Duke, if you are talking about the same sprag clutch that I am thinking about, it would be the one in the stator of the torque convertor? Am I right?

If so, you can replace the sprag clutch in the stator by sending the torque convertor away for an overhaul. In sydney Australia, this is about $160 + parts.

Once the transmission gets hot, will it remain in drive, if so stall up the transmission, (Transmission in drive, foot on brake and full throttle), and witness what rpm the engine sits at. If the engine speed does not get up to around 2500 +- 200 RPM, then your sprag clutch may be on its way out.
If it only say about 200-300 off the lowwest spec, then it is a possibilty that your blades in your torque convertor have began to fail.

This can be caused by a number of things which you do not need to concern yourself with.
If the stall speed hits around 1200- 1500 or similar, then the SPRAG clutch within your stator is ruined as Duke suggested. :)

no, not that clutch in the torque converter.

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This post has been edited by soullink: Dec 29 2004, 05:35 AM

Well then where is it located????????