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post Feb 8 2005, 12:13 AM
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Hi kyl72
Thanks for the info on the F/C it is a big help to get a realistic figure.
I just sold my 2000 NL pajero and I am heading off tomorrow to buy one.
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Hello again all. Have been off for a week as the wife has delivered a beautiful baby boy (or first) into the world.


Anyhow the Tuc tuc was bought for this reason and I have also noticed the fuel consumption going down with the ks going up.


And for Suedeblue some manufacturers pre-run in there engines before selling cars. Volkswagen is one of those companys. Subaru is another (on there turbo engines). This eliminates a bit of the thirst on run-in. I don't think they run in the engines with petrol but by other means.

I only know this as my XT Forrester was pre-run in and only needed a 'first' service at 15000ks.


I think a concensus from the poll is to run the Tuc tuc's on 98 Octane fuel. I have found this with ours. Another benefit is the detergent properties of the fuel. It will stop carbon deposits and will also remove old carbon deposits.
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Congrats on the baby. Hope mother and child are doing well.

I'll give it some more time before posting an update on the fuel situation.
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post Feb 12 2005, 07:48 PM
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Hi There

My Tucson has done 4,000 kms and fuel consumption is improving. Too early to tell for sure.

My log shows an average so far of 12.45 litres/100 kms, which I estimate to be comprised of :
Urban short runs stop/start traffic lights stuff - e about 14 litres/100 kms. Not too good!
Long runs on country roads cruising at average of 100 kmph - 12 litres/100 kms.

Those who report higher consumptions might have a heavy right foot......driving technique can improve consumption by a heck of a lot.

Interestingly, no definitive results yet from switching to premium fuel. I'll report again at 10,000 kms.

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post Feb 14 2005, 02:47 AM
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hi,
I have 1700km on my V6 and Im still reading 18.1-18.5 litres /100km on the onboard computer :( . It started off at 19.2 when I bought it first. It just guzzles petrol, and I get about 300km from when I fill her up to when the light comes on. The onboard computer is a waste of time. It tells me after a refil I have 470km till the next refil. After 6km its telling me I have 370km left to drive!!

I have complained to the garage who admitted it sounded a bit high! , but hyundai told them I have to wait longer as there is not enough km on the clock.

At least from reading this thread I feel there might be hope as figures like 11.9 are quoted. Its depressing filling her up, as my old 2.4 santa fe got 500-600km per full tank, ie. nearly double!.

Judging by the figures people are getting it sounds like I might have a problem with my 2.7l, as no one seems to be close to what Im experiencing. (I drive as economical as possible with not so much city driving) Does anyone think I could actually have a fault or does this sound normal?

Here in sweden the reccomend normal 95 octane unleaded. the 98 octane is much more expensive but from what I read above it might be worth a try anyhow!

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ps. It snowed really heavily here yesterday and the tucson made light work of it, showing off her off road qualities!
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post Feb 14 2005, 05:15 AM
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Hi friends,

Of course is fuel quality a factor. The more energy is in a liter (or galon) of Your gasoline, the less the consumption.

I suppose, now after two weeks You have finished your test of full-tank to funk-tank measurement. What are Your figures now?

I again collected some information. Three sources (hyundai.com, hyundai.sk and intepentent German DAT.de sites give 7.1l/100km combined consumption for 4WD Tucson 2.0 CRDi. 9.2l/100 in the city and 5.9l/100 out-of-city

This equals 33.1 mpg combined (1 gal=3.785l, 1 mile= 1.609km), 25.6 mpg in city and 39.8 out-of-the city.

As You can see your brochures manipulated the figures. What they gave You as combined was out-of-city. So I feel Your problem is rather a sales-marketing problem. From consumer point of view of course all of You are right. But technically if You achieve about 33mpg or 7.1l/100 Your car is fully OK.

To combined measurement: this includes according to norm 80/1268/EWG an in-city cycle with cold start (however I do not know the weight and length of this cycle) and an out-of-city cycle with 90 km/h constant speed, but also including some acceleration phases to 120 km/h. When testing they do not go to a real city eg. London, they make the measurement test on test-course accomplishing a puctually prescribed procedure. If you go then with same car to real life you can make 100 measurements and get 100 different results, as the situation is never the same. Anyway this method of manufacturer testing is much more better, that old method giving concumption just at constant speed 90 or 120 kmh.

One more tip: your consumption is also heavily depending on the average lenght of your trips. I reckon they calculate 1 cold start/100km in their tests. For my Accent I achieve now 6,9 liters/100 in average with daily trips 2*25km. When I travelled to Vienna and did 2*100 km I got 6.2 liters/100, which is already better than Hyundai figures.

I like furthermore the Tucson, and would like to have it as my next car.

Best wishes, Attila
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post Feb 14 2005, 07:33 AM
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Atilla,

You can have mine for £500 less than I paid for it!
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post Feb 14 2005, 08:14 PM
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Hola Silverpaul

Your theory seems sound to me, though I claim no great mechanical knowledge. My 2.7L V6 Tucson seems to have just the right balance of power to weight, although I have been driving cars with slightly bigger engines (3.0 L, 4.0 L) previously. For us it came down to a choice between the Tucson V6 and the Nissan X-Trail (not sure if that is its name outside Australia), which was a 2.5L four. It was no contest, the Tucson was more responsive and a lot quieter.

My first tank disappeared at the rate of 12.8L/100 km. The second tank achieved 10.35L/100Km, but that was because I took it on a 430 km round trip and stuck to the break-in recommendation of keeping under 88 kph. Excruciating! But it showed me that accelerating more slowly will get me better consumption.

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post Feb 14 2005, 09:33 PM
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Hello all,

Got a new Tucson GL V6 AWD in January. Noticed that the fuel consumption was particularly high in comparison to my previous car an '02 Sonata GL V6.
Driving very conservatively using regular (87 octane) gasoline, I am struggling to achieve 400kms per 65l tank in the city -around 16-18l/100km.

Has anyone installed a K & N filter and noticed results?
Or any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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QUOTE(neil oconnor @ Feb 14 2005, 03:47 PM)
hi,
I have 1700km on my V6 and Im still reading 18.1-18.5 litres /100km on the onboard computer :( . It started off at 19.2 when I bought it first. It just guzzles petrol, and I get about 300km from when I fill her up to when the light comes on. The onboard computer is a waste of time. It tells me after a refil I have 470km till the next refil. After 6km its telling me I have 370km left to drive!!
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Those figures seem a to represent a lot higher consumption than most people are experiencing. Mine has done only 700 kays and consumption started at 14l/100kms and has dropped to 13.8l/100kms for the second tank of fuel. Hopelfully will continue in this direction. I got 400kms out of the first tank and look like getting 440-450 out of the second.

You would hope that its not but something sounds amiss in your Tucson.

You should be getting the same figures (or close to them from the 95 octane) unless (and it sounds like you are not) you are a maniac lead foot driver.

Hope it gets (a lot) better.

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post Feb 15 2005, 04:39 AM
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We have just taken delivery of our Tuscon last week so far the FC is 12.5 l/100 on the hyway, I'm not impressed. Hyundai simply say the sticker is only an estimate yeh yeh. Hyundai Australia so far have not accepted any responsability for anything including the 5 month delivery. This forum may help.
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post Feb 15 2005, 06:14 AM
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There seems to be a few problems with FC overseas...so far from what i have read in this forum and the Hyundai Tucson message board.18L/100 KMS is NOT normal!! Mine were spot on with toolbar with I first got my Tuc. Now after nearly 7,000kms it varies....but averages around 12L/100km. I am VERY heavy footed (can't help it with thepower of the V6) and I get between 480km per tank to 520km per tank. If doing alot of highway driving it is around 500km's. I am happy with this. Even though Hyundai states 11L/100km.....No car manufacturer gives the CORRECT FC so keeping this in mind and the fact that it is a very VERY heavy car with a V6 engine you can't really expect much more. I would be happy to get an average of just over 500km/tank. Those of you getting over 14L/100km however have every right to be unhappy. Most of us here in Australia from the posts in the different forums are achieving 11-13L/100km. I wonder why some of our overseas friends are achieving a much higher FC???????Driving conditions?? Fuel quality???
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I think you are right Kyl in that the Oz cars are about the same and the overseas cars are doing worse. I always thought that Australia got lower quality fuel and therefore thought we would get the lower mileage.

Also I agree with you. After running in if my TucTuc gets around 12l/100kms or about 500kms a tank I will be happy with that. It is a 4wd with a v6. It is what it is.

I am going to put on a K&N filter and Hyclone when my engine is run in to see if any better fuel consumption but that will be a little while off yet.
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Hi

I too have been quite disappointed with the fuel consumption of the V6.
I live on a small island with very little highway driving and have been averaging approximately 14L/100kmh.

Otherwise I am extremely pleased with the vehicle
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QUOTE(TOOLBAR @ Feb 14 2005, 09:19 PM)
Those figures seem a to represent a lot higher consumption than most people are experiencing. Mine has done only 700 kays and consumption started at 14l/100kms and has dropped to 13.8l/100kms for the second tank of fuel. Hopelfully will continue in this direction. I got 400kms out of the first tank and look like getting 440-450 out of the second.

You would hope that its not but something sounds amiss in your Tucson.

You should be getting the same figures (or close to them from the 95 octane) unless (and it sounds like you are not) you are a maniac lead foot driver.

Hope it gets (a lot) better.

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hi,
yes I have tried driving as careful as possible, being as light on the pedal as one could be. but it made no difference at all. People here with there 3llitre sabbs and 7 series bmws get much better mileage. They laugh when they hear what I get, they think I am joking!
The papers here reviewed it (after I bought it) and rated the tucson very highly but asked if there was a hole in the fuel tank. Hyundai sweden said they would investigate it and came back saying they tested the car and managed 10l/100km on it. They compared it to the 3.5L V8 volvo xc90, which did 13.5 in the test vs the 14 the tucson did! They were quite amazed!.

Its very strange how the tucsons down under get much better mileage... do the ones down there have the automatic geat box too?

Someone parked a tucson right next to mine at teh supermarket the other day so I waited till he came out. He had 10000km on the clock and said his now does about 12-13l regardless of motorway driving or city driving. He said at the start he was filling up the tank all the time though but he never remembered it being as bad as what I get!.

Judging by what everyone else is reporting I still seem to be guzzling the most! Even the dealer thought it was high, despite feeding me the usual crap that you cant go by what the brochure says as its ideal conditions they measure it on. My answer was that the santa fe brochure said 9.8 mixed and for that I got 500-600km. The tucson said 10l/100km mixed and for that I get 270-310km and asked him to do the maths. But he is quite ok about it and at least tries to contact hyundai, who first said they were investigating the problem, and a month later came back saying I had not enough km on the clock to tell!

I was really pissed off before, now Im just praying if enough of us keep pushing them they might actually do something...
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Hi Neil,


In Australia we only have the V6 AWD with the auto box. It probably helps all those people who aren't good at making decisions :thumbsup:

Hope that your TucTuc gets better and better. If mine was doing less than 14l/100kms I would be right up Hyundai regardless.

Good luck with yours.
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Hi

With nearly a 1000km on my 2.7 Tucson Elite (Australian spec auto), I am averaging 12.9 according to the trip computer. This has been primarily a combination of short commuting trips (8km) and longer ones (26km). Also several trips towing a light trailer short distances while helping to move a friend. There has been no trip over 40km so far. I should add that I traded the OE Bridgestone Turanzas as soon as I got it. I fitted Pirelli Scorpion STR's which are a SUV specific tyre. I mention this because it may have had some effect on the FC.

I'm pleasantly supprised because I was expecting much worse. Generally for most of the time I am following Handbook recomendations re the run in period. Speed under 88kph, not reving over 4000rpm etc. I have however had some short 100kph runs. I am used to driving large 4wd autos and I have always been soft on the throttle which allows the auto to change into top gear quicker without reving the hell out of the motor. Who cares who goes past me. Definitly helps.

I have seen some articles which talk about 17lt/100km in city driving. This would have to be in seriously slow commuting in a large city. I'm sure I can get it down to around the high 9s low 10s on a long trip when it has been run in. Hyundai would have been better to have put a longer stroke motor in this thing. I'm not complaining at the moment because I bought it in the knowledge that fuel consumption was questionable.

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Hi Crowie. This is off topic but I just love how in any pub in Canberra on any night of the year Cold Chisels Ke San (not spelled too good!) will be played and people will boot scoot to it. Gotta love Canberra the biggest country town in Australia :P

Nah I really do like Canberra. Picturesque and all nice.

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QUOTE(TOOLBAR @ Feb 18 2005, 04:51 PM)
Hi Crowie. This is off topic but I just love how in any pub in Canberra on any night of the year Cold Chisels Ke San (not spelled too good!) will be played and people will boot scoot to it. Gotta love Canberra the biggest country town in Australia  :P

Nah I really do like Canberra. Picturesque and all nice.

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I'm a "young senior" so don't go pub crawling too much these days. However, love Canberra, not to old to like Cold Chisel and like my Tucson :offtopic:
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G'day Crowie

Your fuel consumption is pretty close to my mixed city/country (mostly city) as indicated in Post #16 above. I retained the Kumho Solus tyres that came with my base model Tucson and have no complaints about them. They certainly grip well as I found in last Saturday night's fairly heavy rain in North Canberra when I was demonstrating some cornering with four good sized adult males on board.

Off topic, nice to have another capitalino (or is it capitalian?) on the forum, also a "young senior" which is how I would describe myself. After choosing the Tucson on what I trust were pretty much practical grounds as a probable good size and design of car for my caravan towing and general driving, I was a bit surprised to find in some of the newspaper reviews that Hyundai aims the Tucson at the 29-45 year age group or some such. I've left that age group behind me by a few years.
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