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Center Console Smart Key Port

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#1 ·
IF this has been covered in another thread, I apologize in advance. Can anyone explain what the Smart Key Port inside the center console is for? Hopefully not to arm the Nuclear Self Destruct System. Really, Anyone care to elaborate?

Thanks Y'all...
 
#3 ·
QUOTE (Shiz20 @ Apr 2 2011, 08:03 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=424521
I was told that if the battery was dead in the smart key or wasn't working, you would open the door with the removable key then stick the smart key in the port and then you can start the car.
+1 if your car doesn't open if you push your unlock key then the battery is low. Then you would charge it in your center console. Also from what I read is that your car will tell you as well.
 
#49 ·
QUOTE (Shiz20 @ Apr 2 2011, 08:03 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=424521

+1 if your car doesn't open if you push your unlock key then the battery is low. Then you would charge it in your center console. Also from what I read is that your car will tell you as well.
The port only lets you start your car if the key is dead, that's the only function the port has, it does not charge your key whatsoever. Hope this helps 😁
 
#4 ·
QUOTE (Skeezy @ Apr 2 2011, 10:05 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=424562
+1 if your car doesn't open if you push your unlock key then the battery is low. Then you would charge it in your center console. Also from what I read is that your car will tell you as well.
Charge it? How is that possible since there are no physical positive or negative contacts on the Smart Key's exterior? Not to mention, a CR2032 battery isn't rechargable that I know of. If this is true, that would be great but I rather doubt it. Please elaborate Skeezy.

Thanks..... :whistling:
 
#5 ·
QUOTE (RichD @ Apr 2 2011, 10:27 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=424575
Charge it? How is that possible since there are no physical positive or negative contacts on the Smart Key's exterior? Not to mention, a CR2032 battery isn't rechargable that I know of. If this is true, that would be great but I rather doubt it. Please elaborate Skeezy.

Thanks..... :whistling:
If you look on your sides of the smart keyfob, there are two holes. When you stick your keyfob in the center console, the charging ports will lock into those holes and charge your smartkey. As far as the charging battery, that I dont know. All I know is that the system charges your smart key which is a cool feature. I didnt believe him as well until he showed my on a dead remote. He plugged in in for about 5-7 minutes ( we were talking during that time) took it out and push the unlock button...POW...it worked :)
 
#7 ·
QUOTE (Skeezy @ Apr 2 2011, 08:36 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=424580
If you look on your sides of the smart keyfob, there are two holes. When you stick your keyfob in the center console, the charging ports will lock into those holes and charge your smartkey. As far as the charging battery, that I dont know. All I know is that the system charges your smart key which is a cool feature. I didnt believe him as well until he showed my on a dead remote. He plugged in in for about 5-7 minutes ( we were talking during that time) took it out and push the unlock button...POW...it worked :)
that's interesting. I wonder for how long a non-rechargable battery can hold a charge. 8hrs+/- would be great.
 
#9 ·
QUOTE (Jaeger @ Apr 2 2011, 08:36 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=424793
Good info - I did not know this. Took me a minute or two to find the port. :innocent:

Jaeger
No Kidding...I didn't know this either. This is why we all should follow procedure RTFM LOL. ( READ THE F&**# MANUAL). Usually I'd go thru the owners manual but I've been so busy with work and my new born son...)

Gotta check out the console now..
 
#12 ·
QUOTE (rejc7822 @ Apr 2 2011, 11:12 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=424875
The salesman at the dealership told me that its only function is to start the car if the key battery dies. He also told me that if the key ever dies or breaks you will be assed out of around $475.00 bucks, EEEEEESH.
Yeah my dealer never even game me the option. had no idea what to do if the key dies.
 
#13 ·
I also wasn't told about this. That's a pretty **** cool feature! I'll be doing some manual reading I guess, since I keep learning something new about this car on here from people that have. I wonder if its meant to be recharged all the time or if its only for an emergancy and still needs a battery change.
 
#14 ·
QUOTE (rejc7822 @ Apr 2 2011, 09:12 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=424875
The salesman at the dealership told me that its only function is to start the car if the key battery dies. He also told me that if the key ever dies or breaks you will be assed out of around $475.00 bucks, EEEEEESH.
my dealership told me the same thing and tried to sell me some key replacement warranty. I checked fleabay as he was spouting the virtures of this key warranty program. The key can be had for 10 bucks. The fob.... I thought I saw it on there for under 75us.

I declined their key replacement warranty.
 
#15 ·
My 08 infiniti had the same type of key, I asked my friend (electrical engineer/huge nerd/car enthusiast) "how could it charge a battery without having contacts on it" he reminded me, they have those pads you can buy, then replace certain cell phone batteries and you just set your phone on the pad, and the phone charges. I forgot what its called. But long story short, you Can charge batteries without having metal contacts. But then of course they don't have reachable batteries in our keys. So is it just a big FAIL with the charging aspect of it all?

(salesman told me it charges the battery) which to replace only costs a few bucks, so does it really even matter?
 
#16 ·
I looked in the manual and couldn't find anything about it in there. I wonder why they aren't more thorough. Seems like something they should've put in the book.
 
#17 ·
QUOTE (BigSlick @ Apr 3 2011, 10:43 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=425253
I looked in the manual and couldn't find anything about it in there. I wonder why they aren't more thorough. Seems like something they should've put in the book.
I looked at mine last night, not much in the way of detail, but it's there. I believe page 5-20.

It is under section 5 under the Start/Stop button functions.
 
#18 ·
All,
If it is indeed the case, the charging would be done by inductive charging. Think about your electric toothbrush for instance. You have a base that plugs in and then you just put the handle into that base and it charges for the next use. My Oral B has this which is good as there are no physical contacts that would be harmed by getting wet...generally a good thing for a toothbrush :)

Hope this helps. By the way, thanks for the feature description. I have gone through the manual and have seen nothing on this topic.

---Tom
 
#20 ·
Don't now why this is info not in your manuals. Maybe they left it out of the turbo manuals? Anyhow, from page 5/10 of my 2.4 manual it says......

QUOTE
*NOTICE
• If the battery is weak or the smart key
does not work correctly, you can start
the engine by inserting the smart key
into the smart key holder. To eject the
smart key from the smart key holder,
press the smart key inward past the
detent and then pull the key outward.
• When the stop lamp fuse is blown, you
can't start the engine normally.
Replace the fuse with a new one. If you
are not able to replace the fuse, you
can start the engine by pressing the
engine start/stop button for 10 seconds
with the engine start/stop button in the
ACC mode. Always depress the brake
pedal before starting the engine.


QUOTE
CAUTION
• Do not press the engine
start/stop button for more than 5
seconds except when the stop
lamp fuse is disconnected.
• When you eject the smart key
from the smart key holder, press
the smart key inward and pull it
out. If you pull out the smart key
forcibly without first pushing the
smart key, the smart key holder
may be damaged and couldn’t
operate normally.


Notice it says nothing about charging the battery.
 
#21 ·
QUOTE (11yfLtd @ Apr 4 2011, 06:39 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=425672
Don't now why this is info not in your manuals. Maybe they left it out of the turbo manuals? Anyhow, from page 5/10 of my 2.4 manual it says......





Notice it says nothing about charging the battery.
correct but i really dont trust our manuals to provide all the information as proven in this discussion.

Food for thought:
The smart key holder has to be providing some power to the smart key to allow it to be actively noticed. I say actively because it has to have some sort of digital key that needs to be transmitted, since the smart key itself has grooved passcode pattern like a normal key would.

Now this doesn't necessarily indicate that the key is charging it just simply proves that there is power being transferred to the key.
 
#22 ·
When my mom took delivery of her Sonata, the salesman specifically told us that the smart key port does not charge the key, but only allows you to start the car if the remote battery is dead. I'm sure it works in a manner similar to how the toll readers work (e.g., EZ-pass). That is, a small radio wave or whatever (I'm not an expert) energizes the transponder which then spits out a code or whatever.

Side note, my BMW does actually charge the battery in the remote when you have the key in the dash :thumbsup:
 
#23 ·
This port WILL NOT CHARGE THE BATTERY. This is simply to allow you to start the car when the battery dies. You will have to buy a new battery once the one in yours dies.

This is a common misconception (being that it charges the battery) but again, IT WILL NOT CHARGE THE BATTERY.
 
#24 ·
With all due respect I wish to disagree. I was told two specific things about the key and the port:

1) Once a week after the car has been started incert the key in the port (there is only one way that it will go in & click) and drive with the key in the port. This does indeed charge the battery just like the battery in your cell phone.

2) If you should incert the key into the port first and then start your car ... you have just reprogramed the car and it will not start again unless you first incert the key. I was told that if this should happen I would have to bring the car into the dealership to have the system reprogramed.
 
#25 ·
My salesman told me the following statement when I bought mine last week:

"Put your key in this port once in a while to keep the battery charged so it doesnt die on you"

Thats all I know.
 
#26 ·
QUOTE (DARK @ Apr 28 2011, 02:52 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=437050
My salesman told me the following statement when I bought mine last week:

"Put your key in this port once in a while to keep the battery charged so it doesnt die on you"

Thats all I know.

Seems we just keep going in circles with this topic. He Said/She Said but no tangable proof either way. Lets take a moment to look at this from the batteries stand point.

Anyone out there ever heard of a NON-Rechargeable Lithium Cell. Every one I have ever come across was Re-Chargeable. Since the Smart Ket uses a CR-2032 cell, should we or shouldn't we think it Re-Chargeable? That also brings to mind, is the console port capable of charging anything. Anyone out there read or see anything to that effect in writting?

While its a nice thought that we may have the capability to charge the CR-2032 while plugged into the console port, I think it doubtful. If we do, I doubt it would be anything more than a surface charge to get us by until such time as we could get the replacement CR-2032 installed in the Smart Key.

My feeling is that if the console port has charging capabilities, its just a quick fix until the battery can be replaced. Finding out how it does charge the CR-2032 is another whole topic I'll bet. I am not the smartest apple in the basket but unless that console port has inductence charging capabilities, like the Pad for smart phones, without visible contacts, it once again doubtful we're charging anything folks. And please, everyone, don't try to tell me that the little square depression on each side of the Smart Key are the contacts, they're NOT!. They are part of the locking device to keep the Smart Key in the console port.

I'm going to presume until I'm proven wrong that the port is for starting the car when the battery in the Smart Key is either too weak or dead. This is exactly what I was told when I got my Sonata. Also, if memory serves, the battery in the Smart Key is supposed to last about 3 years under normal conditions. We have about 2 years left to get this figured out, lol....
 
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