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#21 Old 04-04-2011, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (11yfLtd @ Apr 4 2011, 06:39 PM)
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Don't now why this is info not in your manuals. Maybe they left it out of the turbo manuals? Anyhow, from page 5/10 of my 2.4 manual it says......





Notice it says nothing about charging the battery.
correct but i really dont trust our manuals to provide all the information as proven in this discussion.

Food for thought:
The smart key holder has to be providing some power to the smart key to allow it to be actively noticed. I say actively because it has to have some sort of digital key that needs to be transmitted, since the smart key itself has grooved passcode pattern like a normal key would.

Now this doesn't necessarily indicate that the key is charging it just simply proves that there is power being transferred to the key.
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When my mom took delivery of her Sonata, the salesman specifically told us that the smart key port does not charge the key, but only allows you to start the car if the remote battery is dead. I'm sure it works in a manner similar to how the toll readers work (e.g., EZ-pass). That is, a small radio wave or whatever (I'm not an expert) energizes the transponder which then spits out a code or whatever.

Side note, my BMW does actually charge the battery in the remote when you have the key in the dash
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This port WILL NOT CHARGE THE BATTERY. This is simply to allow you to start the car when the battery dies. You will have to buy a new battery once the one in yours dies.

This is a common misconception (being that it charges the battery) but again, IT WILL NOT CHARGE THE BATTERY.
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With all due respect I wish to disagree. I was told two specific things about the key and the port:

1) Once a week after the car has been started incert the key in the port (there is only one way that it will go in & click) and drive with the key in the port. This does indeed charge the battery just like the battery in your cell phone.

2) If you should incert the key into the port first and then start your car ... you have just reprogramed the car and it will not start again unless you first incert the key. I was told that if this should happen I would have to bring the car into the dealership to have the system reprogramed.

Well ... it aint a Corvette .... but then again ...... it doesn't get 14 mpg either!
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My salesman told me the following statement when I bought mine last week:

"Put your key in this port once in a while to keep the battery charged so it doesnt die on you"

Thats all I know.

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My salesman told me the following statement when I bought mine last week:

"Put your key in this port once in a while to keep the battery charged so it doesnt die on you"

Thats all I know.

Seems we just keep going in circles with this topic. He Said/She Said but no tangable proof either way. Lets take a moment to look at this from the batteries stand point.

Anyone out there ever heard of a NON-Rechargeable Lithium Cell. Every one I have ever come across was Re-Chargeable. Since the Smart Ket uses a CR-2032 cell, should we or shouldn't we think it Re-Chargeable? That also brings to mind, is the console port capable of charging anything. Anyone out there read or see anything to that effect in writting?

While its a nice thought that we may have the capability to charge the CR-2032 while plugged into the console port, I think it doubtful. If we do, I doubt it would be anything more than a surface charge to get us by until such time as we could get the replacement CR-2032 installed in the Smart Key.

My feeling is that if the console port has charging capabilities, its just a quick fix until the battery can be replaced. Finding out how it does charge the CR-2032 is another whole topic I'll bet. I am not the smartest apple in the basket but unless that console port has inductence charging capabilities, like the Pad for smart phones, without visible contacts, it once again doubtful we're charging anything folks. And please, everyone, don't try to tell me that the little square depression on each side of the Smart Key are the contacts, they're NOT!. They are part of the locking device to keep the Smart Key in the console port.

I'm going to presume until I'm proven wrong that the port is for starting the car when the battery in the Smart Key is either too weak or dead. This is exactly what I was told when I got my Sonata. Also, if memory serves, the battery in the Smart Key is supposed to last about 3 years under normal conditions. We have about 2 years left to get this figured out, lol....


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Seems we just keep going in circles with this topic. He Said/She Said but no tangable proof either way. Lets take a moment to look at this from the batteries stand point.

Anyone out there ever heard of a NON-Rechargeable Lithium Cell. Every one I have ever come across was Re-Chargeable. Since the Smart Ket uses a CR-2032 cell, should we or shouldn't we think it Re-Chargeable? That also brings to mind, is the console port capable of charging anything. Anyone out there read or see anything to that effect in writting?

While its a nice thought that we may have the capability to charge the CR-2032 while plugged into the console port, I think it doubtful. If we do, I doubt it would be anything more than a surface charge to get us by until such time as we could get the replacement CR-2032 installed in the Smart Key.

My feeling is that if the console port has charging capabilities, its just a quick fix until the battery can be replaced. Finding out how it does charge the CR-2032 is another whole topic I'll bet. I am not the smartest apple in the basket but unless that console port has inductence charging capabilities, like the Pad for smart phones, without visible contacts, it once again doubtful we're charging anything folks. And please, everyone, don't try to tell me that the little square depression on each side of the Smart Key are the contacts, they're NOT!. They are part of the locking device to keep the Smart Key in the console port.

I'm going to presume until I'm proven wrong that the port is for starting the car when the battery in the Smart Key is either too weak or dead. This is exactly what I was told when I got my Sonata. Also, if memory serves, the battery in the Smart Key is supposed to last about 3 years under normal conditions. We have about 2 years left to get this figured out, lol....

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My Dealer (also my father) told me that this is not a charging port he has researched this for a while and has found no conclusive evidence that this will charge the remote. his words to me if it dies get the other remote or go and get a new battery as this one is dead.

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If it was meant to be charged, it would use a different battery than it does!
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If your cars' battery is dead and you're not able to get into the car you can use the pop out key and get into the car to open the hood and either jump start or replace the battery.
The only thing the fob port located in the glove compartment does is it "programs" the fob to that car. So if you find the remote no longer opens or locks the door or your car states the fob is not near when you know it's in the car
then placing it in the fob port for a minute or two does the trick but it does not "charge" the fob whatsoever. I'm heading out to Alabama to take a tour of the plant I will bring this topic up to an engineer or a line supervisor and confirm for sure.
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