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#1 Old 01-12-2010, 05:35 PM
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I had an 04 Santa Fe /2.7 V6 go in for a service inspection/look-over at a local Hyundai dealership last week before committing to buy it. Besides some usual maintenance stuff recommended by the service dept., they told me that a transmission flush was recommended; while the transmission is fine I was assured, the service associate explained that during diagnostics there was some very minor noise detected...

Ok, I know that transmission flushes aren't always advised. The car has 49 k and drives very smoothly to my layman ear. I'd like to know what the consensus is here amongst Santa Fe owners on this practice.

I don't have any prior service records btw.

Much thanks and I hope to contribute to this forum more, now that I'm an official owner!

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Under the severe service schedule, you car is to have a fluid change every 30k. Do you live in a place where they put salt on the roads?... Yes? Then it applies.

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Salt on the roads is not going to affect the transmission fluid so disregard that. Unless you do serious towing I wouldn't do it until Hyundai requires it which isn't until 110,000 miles, I believe.

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This is coming from a Hyundai dealership, so....I'm sort of confused....
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Salt on the roads is not going to affect the transmission fluid so disregard that. Unless you do serious towing I wouldn't do it until Hyundai requires it which isn't until 110,000 miles, I believe.
Actually, that's not true. It's all clearly laid out in the owners manual. Severe service includes any car which is driven in cold weather on salted roads. I've heard tell of people who blow up the transmission under warranty, and the dealer wouldn't honor the warranty due to owners not following severe service schedule on fluid changes.

In this case, it's true that "normal service" says to change trans fluid at 105K, however "severe service" is 30k. It is not unreasonable to recommend fluid change service.

Myself, I do regular pan dump & refills on my Lexus about every 10k. My fluid always looks like new.

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This is coming from a Hyundai dealership, so....I'm sort of confused....
Let me give you a nickel's worth of free advice to keep you from getting the wool pulled over your eyes. Just because it's a Hyundai dealership does not mean everything they say is the gospel. They are a business and just like any other business, they are there to make money and some will go to great lengths to milk you out of as much as possible, especially so in times like these. In fact, I'd strongly suggest doing a quick browse through this forum and you'll find stories from a good number of people who have dealers try to charge them for unnecessary services. Some have even gone so far as to threaten voiding warranties. And let me be clear...a dealership on its own CANNOT void your warranty. Only Hyundai corporate can do that and they need a very strong reason to do so.

So long as you follow what Hyundai says you need to do in terms of regular servicing, you'll be fine. If a dealership tells you that something needs to be done, ask to see the item in question. Find a good, honest dealership, stick with them and build a repertoire with them. I've been incredibly lucky and have a very strong relationship with my dealer. They know better than to try and pull a fast one on me but because I keep them honest, that's where I go.

But back to your original question. Pop the hood and take a look at the ATF dipstick (the red one at the right of the engine). The fluid should be a pinkish red and if it's any darker, I might recommend a flush but if not, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. My '04 Santa Fe is also a 2.7 V6 and I have only had the transmission fluid changed once. Good luck and congrats on your purchase.

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Actually, that's not true. It's all clearly laid out in the owners manual. Severe service includes any car which is driven in cold weather on salted roads. I've heard tell of people who blow up the transmission under warranty, and the dealer wouldn't honor the warranty due to owners not following severe service schedule on fluid changes.
Please accept my apologies, I stand corrected. I cracked open my owner's manual and there it is under subsection D, "Driving in areas using salt or other corrosive materials or in very cold weather." Oregon doesn't use salt so the thought never crossed my mind.

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I have only had mine flushed once, but I use an independent oil and lube company(Mr. Lube) for such services as they tend to be a lot cheaper than a dealership is.

Color and smell are what I go by, when it comes to the transmission fluid. As previously stated, it should be a light pinkish/red color. If there's any burnt smell to it or discoloration, it's time for a flush.

Advantages to a flush vs just a drain/filter change/re-fill is that a flush is done while the engine is running, and all of your fluid gets changes. A simple drain, etc only gets what's sitting in the transmission itself at the time. It won't drain the cooler, the lines or any other incidentals the fluid runs through, and as such, will leave a quart or more of the old dirty fluid behind which will shorten the time between needing a change again.

Time is also a factor for ANY lubricant in your car. Everything from engine oil to transmission fluid to your power steering fluid need changing at time or mileage intervals, depending on which comes first. Oil collects contaminants by it's very nature of purpose, and over time, these contaminants will accumulate enough to actually cause the lubricant to turn acidic.
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I recently thought about flushing my transmission and I asked College Park Hyundai in MD and they were honest enough to let me know that is the condition of the fluid is good meaning pink and no unusual smell then I only need to replace the fluid every now and then depending on driving conditions. My 02 Santa Fe shifts like new up to now.
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Yeah, I know College Park Hyundai well. I lived just down RT 1, so they were close by. Back when I bought my 2000 Sonata there, they were always trying to sell me "engine flush" and "alignment" on my new car. That's when times were good and they sold lots of cars. My guess is times are hard, and they'd rather sell you a new car rather than a trans flush. You can search the internet, you'll find they are rated rather lowly.

Your "normal" service schedule is to change the fluid at 105k and your "severe" service schedule is change at 30k. Thats a big difference. Automatic transmission failure is the #1 cause of car death, and the primary cause of transmission death is people not changing the fluid.

This has been the worst winter on record for College Park. Your car is probably out of warranty, so you need to take control of your maintainence. My advice to you is to do pan dump & refills like every time you change the oil. Use only OEM Hyundai SP III stuff as recommended. Don't take it to Jiffy lube. If you do it right, your trans will last a lot longer.

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I do a complete flush via the transmission cooling lines using 9 or 10 quarts of SPIII in my driveway every 30 or 40k. Works great and I get to keep my money instead of giving it to the dealer.
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