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Alright here's the pictures I'd promised. The first one is the all of the coilover components when I first got them out of the box. The second is a comparison between the stock front strut and the front coilover. The third shows the front coilover with the top mount from the stock strut, like I had mentioned needing to use. Next is a comparison between the stock rear shock and the aftermarket one, then the springs. There's one shot of the rear setup once installed (I forgot to grab a quick pic of the front before I put the wheels back on while installing them). The last four are pictures of the car after the coilovers were installed and had a week or two to settle, with the first two being overall shots, and the last two being closeups of the front and rear wheels to show the gap. I apologize for the lens flare on the last two, they were all taken on my phone and I didn't notice the flare until I uploaded them to the computer.

As for measurements of the before and after, I believe the front to have been 14.25 inches from the center of the wheel to the peak of the wheel arch at stock, and I measured it to be around 13.5 today (the mark I used for peak points have been washed off, so it was a rough measurement). For the rear I think the stock measurement was 13.5 (lost the paper I wrote it down on so I'm not 100%) and I'm now measuring it to be 12.5 inches. With that I should say that there was a 3/4 inch drop in the front and a 1 inch drop in the rear after a week or two of time for the setup to settle at the lowest height settings that it allows.
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For $1,400 I'd rather buy SMA's coilover kit...

That's a big jump in price from when I was quoted $995 shipped last year summer for HSD's.

I'm glad you like them and are enjoying them. In the end that's all that matters. If you spend the money on something you want and you get what you wanted and paid for then it's always a good thing!

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You will have to then give us some feedback about how the ride is now, little firmer, alot firmer. Also how is the cornering now?.... Like a go kart??
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Next is a comparison between the stock rear shock and the aftermarket one, then the springs.
So, technically, the rears are not "Coilovers".

Looks great. Will be saving my pennies..
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I guess this one is off my list now. I can't justify spending $1300 for a 1" drop. But I am glad you like it
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Pics look good
The Price is not bad at all considering your paying for a quality product that is Top choice in the Hyundai Genesis Community and you pay for what you get..

As AccentBlack had mentioned the handling is like Night and Day and i have these on my Tiburon with positive reviews NO QUESTION


Your Question about ride height did you adjust the rear by the Pearch?
If you want the little more im sure you can Fine tune by adjusting the rear Shock to lower it slightly
HSD FTW

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For $1,400 I'd rather buy SMA's coilover kit...

That's a big jump in price from when I was quoted $995 shipped last year summer for HSD's.

I'm glad you like them and are enjoying them. In the end that's all that matters. If you spend the money on something you want and you get what you wanted and paid for then it's always a good thing!
For the quality of the craftsmanship $1400 isn't too bad, and from what I've read in reviews it seems as though the HSD's are a better product. I can't give any quality review on that since I've only got and tested the HSD's, but that's what I've drawn from what I've read anyway. If you do end up getting the SMA's I'd love to hear what you think of them though. Its always good to get a wide range of reviews for the products available out there so that others might be able to make an at least somewhat informed decision when they go for it themselves. Also if you're looking for something cheaper I've been hearing rumors lately that BC is doing R&D on coilovers for our cars overseas.

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You will have to then give us some feedback about how the ride is now, little firmer, alot firmer. Also how is the cornering now?.... Like a go kart??
Lol, read the review I gave sir, I'm pretty sure I addressed that. But I will give it another go here in case I didn't do it adequately. The ride is a lot firmer, but it depends on the settings that you use on the dampers, as they are variable and ultimately control how stiff your ride is. I think at the stiffest its probably going to be about the equivalent of a skateboard where you feel absolutely every nook and cranny in the road. I have not adjusted them anywhere near that and have just gotten them really broken in at this point. Other than that it is hard to quantify how much stiffer the ride is than it used to be, as it is completely subjective. I'd go so far as to say it is as stiff as my roommate's second gen Miata with coilovers. Cornering is much better, and like I said in the review, there is virtually no body roll, leaving your cornering ability to be dictated by the ability of your tires to hold their grip.

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So, technically, the rears are not "Coilovers".

Looks great. Will be saving my pennies..
If you want to go along those lines then it isn't possible for the rears to be considered coilovers, as it is not possible without major modification to run a coilover setup in the rear. The E36 and many others are the same way with a separate spring and shock in the rear. Also, thank you. If you do end up getting them as well I hope you enjoy them as much as I do.

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I guess this one is off my list now. I can't justify spending $1300 for a 1" drop. But I am glad you like it
If I remember correctly from reading your other posts you are looking more for looks than performance anyway. For the money this is likely the absolute best you're going to get performance wise. The setup of the suspension itself appears to be the reason for the lack of drop available in this kit. If you were to thread the front bottom mounts higher you run the risk of hitting the adjustment valve on the bottom of them on the CV axle, which would then destroy your coilovers and void their warranty. There may be better things out there for just a drop, but that wasn't what I was looking for. I'm a function before form kinda guy.

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The Price is not bad at all considering your paying for a quality product that is Top choice in the Hyundai Genesis Community and you pay for what you get..

As AccentBlack had mentioned the handling is like Night and Day and i have these on my Tiburon with positive reviews NO QUESTION


Your Question about ride height did you adjust the rear by the Pearch?
If you want the little more im sure you can Fine tune by adjusting the rear Shock to lower it slightly
HSD FTW
Thank you sir. And yeah, I now know why they rave about them. I grew up with the philosophy of getting what you pay for, and these definitely fit that bill. While they appear kinda pricey at first, the quality of them and the improvements that they make completely justify it in my eyes. As for the ride height, it is adjustable by the perch for the spring for the rear. If you try to shorten it further than the adjustments available via the perch by putting the shock much shorter I get the feeling that you will end up damaging your shocks in the rear in the end, and unbalance things by placing too much pretension in the rear springs. The length of the shock is meant to place some pretension in the spring, but it also controls the amount of suspension sag allowed. I've got something like 2-2.5 inches of suspension sag, while they suggest a maximum of somewhere between 4 and 5 inches if I recall correctly. Personally I'm not looking to get the back any lower at the moment. If you can't get the front lower as well it would look ridiculously unbalanced IMO and likely handle that way as well.
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For the quality of the craftsmanship $1400 isn't too bad, and from what I've read in reviews it seems as though the HSD's are a better product. I can't give any quality review on that since I've only got and tested the HSD's, but that's what I've drawn from what I've read anyway. If you do end up getting the SMA's I'd love to hear what you think of them though. Its always good to get a wide range of reviews for the products available out there so that others might be able to make an at least somewhat informed decision when they go for it themselves. Also if you're looking for something cheaper I've been hearing rumors lately that BC is doing R&D on coilovers for our cars overseas.



Lol, read the review I gave sir, I'm pretty sure I addressed that. But I will give it another go here in case I didn't do it adequately. The ride is a lot firmer, but it depends on the settings that you use on the dampers, as they are variable and ultimately control how stiff your ride is. I think at the stiffest its probably going to be about the equivalent of a skateboard where you feel absolutely every nook and cranny in the road. I have not adjusted them anywhere near that and have just gotten them really broken in at this point. Other than that it is hard to quantify how much stiffer the ride is than it used to be, as it is completely subjective. I'd go so far as to say it is as stiff as my roommate's second gen Miata with coilovers. Cornering is much better, and like I said in the review, there is virtually no body roll, leaving your cornering ability to be dictated by the ability of your tires to hold their grip.



If you want to go along those lines then it isn't possible for the rears to be considered coilovers, as it is not possible without major modification to run a coilover setup in the rear. The E36 and many others are the same way with a separate spring and shock in the rear. Also, thank you. If you do end up getting them as well I hope you enjoy them as much as I do.



If I remember correctly from reading your other posts you are looking more for looks than performance anyway. For the money this is likely the absolute best you're going to get performance wise. The setup of the suspension itself appears to be the reason for the lack of drop available in this kit. If you were to thread the front bottom mounts higher you run the risk of hitting the adjustment valve on the bottom of them on the CV axle, which would then destroy your coilovers and void their warranty. There may be better things out there for just a drop, but that wasn't what I was looking for. I'm a function before form kinda guy.



Thank you sir. And yeah, I now know why they rave about them. I grew up with the philosophy of getting what you pay for, and these definitely fit that bill. While they appear kinda pricey at first, the quality of them and the improvements that they make completely justify it in my eyes. As for the ride height, it is adjustable by the perch for the spring for the rear. If you try to shorten it further than the adjustments available via the perch by putting the shock much shorter I get the feeling that you will end up damaging your shocks in the rear in the end, and unbalance things by placing too much pretension in the rear springs. The length of the shock is meant to place some pretension in the spring, but it also controls the amount of suspension sag allowed. I've got something like 2-2.5 inches of suspension sag, while they suggest a maximum of somewhere between 4 and 5 inches if I recall correctly. Personally I'm not looking to get the back any lower at the moment. If you can't get the front lower as well it would look ridiculously unbalanced IMO and likely handle that way as well.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not the type of person who wants to slam their car to the ground and scrape at every single speed bump. Just like you, I wanted to drop the car by 1.5"-2". Springs can get me down by 1.3" If these coilovers can get me to 1.5"-2" for $1400, than I would get it. Your right, I'm more for the look of the car. The tighter suspension would just be a bonus for me because at the end of the day, the car is still pushing a mere 138hp. I still don't know what to get lol...Give Neotech a shot or springs...
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Excellent write up Sir

HSD is possibly TOP in the world in its Class for what you get for its price TAG!
Its an inverted Monotube Design with a progressive Spring rate which is an advantage or a Fixed Spring rate where you always have the same ride Quality..This is where HSD is different


As well these are Manufactured in KOREA and Not in Tiawan or China like BC coilovers and other Coilover companys on the market today...
With all the Hyundai Models they all run a seperate Coil and Spring so this doesnt lean its not a real coilover kit it just makes your RIde Quality Smooth and Perfect for Street setup like Stock !!!

As well HSD is number one in KOREA as you can find tons of information on Youtube and Videos

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