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#1 Old 10-10-2012, 08:03 AM
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Swapped 2012 Sedan for 2013 Sedan

Same Boston Red. The 2013 has the "Premium Package", however. Fogs, remote locks, upgraded seat cloth, 16" wheels, etc.. The trade also got me an automatic vs. the 6-speed manual in the 2012.

Driving observations 1200 miles in? The car handles 100% better with the upgraded wheels. I can really hustle through the twisty part of the entrance ramps up here in the Boston region, which is important because the straight part of the ramps leave very little distance to merge onto Interstates. I notice a falloff in the city driving gas mileage, a slight increase in highway driving mileage. I'm not sure what to think of Eco Mode, however. I get that it runs a less aggressive shift map, but if lugging the engine is the intent, it doesn't seem to help my 15-30MPH MPG, if the instant average is to be believed.

I do like the automatic and the sound of the engine when you put your boot in it and it seems to build RPM and speed faster to 85-90MPH than rowing through the manual transmission. I tend to "shift" an automatic during 1/4-1/2 acceleration paces by lifting the toe off the throttle and allowing it to shift instead of allowing the gradual transition between the gears--a more positive shift in the automatic.

Love the fog lights, cruise control, upgraded cloth on the seats, slider armrest and look of the wheels, completely indifferent toward the Bluetooth (simply sucks as regards what the far end hears even when sitting still, forget when moving) and chrome door handles (what was the point again?).

The Dealer here did a rotten job of prep, delivering the car with a trouble light for the vehicle stability system that took a week to get the part for and the car has an under pressure condition in the AC leading to a freeze up of the evaporator core, which led to a reduction of airflow through the cabin on a fairly hot and humid day Saturday with three steamed passengers.

I particularly despise being hocked to provide a favorable service and delivery experience survey and report to the factory by salesmen and service advisers who deliver anything but commendable delivery and service quality at the dealer level. When they deny there's a problem on top of it, it's especially maddening. MUST we be bombarded by crappy dealer service? MUST every experience with the dealer be punctuated with BS reasons and outright lies in their attempt to dodge fixing things? They stand there and BS the chicks and little old ladies, but when these idiots try to BS me when I'm correctly quoting the nomenclature of the faulty component at check-in, I can't stand it. At least they have the decency to clam up and go away when they're busted.

Standard story, enjoy the car, hate the dealer. But guys, try to get the Premium Package where you can find it. No brainer. Especially in the Boston Red!
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So having stated all this, why again did you purchase a vehicle from this dealer? Seems like your gut was telling you to take your check and run away. Is this the only Hyundai dealer in your area?

Tinted Glass- 25% front, 20% rear, Piaa Extreme white headlights, K&N drop-in, All weather mats, leather wrapped steering. I am done???
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So having stated all this, why again did you purchase a vehicle from this dealer? Seems like your gut was telling you to take your check and run away. Is this the only Hyundai dealer in your area?
Yep--As a practical matter. But it doesn't matter. They're all the same from DC to Boston. Sooner or later, every Hyundai goes slime proportionate to the situation. The only thing that backs them down is to do more damage in a public sense (and swap the car) than they gain ripping you off. It doesn't take long for me. I convince them in short order that this pig loves wrestling in the mud more than they do.
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Kind of makes you want to go test drive a Genesis coupe "track" edition and the most powerful engine. Then take the salesman for the ride of his life while finding fun ways to remove more than 50% of the rear tires tread and when you get back to the dealership tell him that you want a color that isn't available, and leave quickly! I am joking of course, but most of theses salesman are complete "tool-sheds"! Now I want to go test drive the Genesis!

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Kind of makes you want to go test drive a Genesis coupe "track" edition and the most powerful engine. Then take the salesman for the ride of his life while finding fun ways to remove more than 50% of the rear tires tread and when you get back to the dealership tell him that you want a color that isn't available, and leave quickly! I am joking of course, but most of theses salesman are complete "tool-sheds"! Now I want to go test drive the Genesis!
Oh, man! You're a meanie. The salesmen have a hard working life, I figure. They have the folks like us that know the cars better than they do and the how, what and why to bargain to deal with on the one hand. Then they have the folks that know none of any of this and are hard to get financed. Either way, they have to prostitute themselves to sell a car or get financing for some poor shlump and then on top of it, they have a monkey like me in their face after the sale in the process of making a nuisance of myself sufficient to get them to fix the car. And my gripes were prep-related.

But the writers and service managers, their life is a different form of Hades, they have to tell one outright lie after another all day long to cover the factory and keep those cars moving out of service department for as little margin as possible. The most honest they're allowed to be is in the "Dazzle em with B/S" mode when they're horriblizing why a customer needs a lot of out-of-warranty repair and unnecessary off-schedule maintenance work that they can actually make a buck on. Lies of omission are still lies. All that said, it must be TOUGH to service new, cheap, bottom of the market automobiles. Fortunately for them, most folks are malleable idiots, lemmings, really. Then someone like one of us walks in that actually wants it fixed and knows the difference. Shocker, no?

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I believe the day is coming when auto "salesman" will not exist. Most of us do not need them because they just add 2 hours to a vehicle purchase and they know little about what they are selling. Just let me test drive it, bring it back, say I want it, draft up all paper-work, sign it all, write a check, then drive home. Shouldn't take much more than an hour or so.

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I believe the day is coming when auto "salesman" will not exist. Most of us do not need them because they just add 2 hours to a vehicle purchase and they know little about what they are selling. Just let me test drive it, bring it back, say I want it, draft up all paper-work, sign it all, write a check, then drive home. Shouldn't take much more than an hour or so.
No, it shouldn't but for folks with cash or lots of options in financing (good credit), it's deal time, meaning whittle this off the bottom line, that off the bottom line and get up to walk out if they don't play ball. They NEVER let you walk out. There's always two grand left to whittle off in their first offer. Even selling these critters at a loss, they always figure the expense of keeping the car on the lot if you walk and the service at the other end if you buy. There's lots of margin. ALWAYS.

Now if you're a crummy credit risk and coming to the dealer without cash or your own financing, you're dead on arrival. They'll scroo you six ways to Sunday on everything because what are your options? It's a sad thing I suppose, that those most in need get jammed that way and these dealers take FULL advantage. They and their partners in finance are like vultures and it's most apparent at Hyundai and Kia dealers where on any given day you can go in and see a downtrodden Mr. and Mrs. sitting at the desk of a salesman who knows he's got them over a barrel and is going to stick it to them but good. THAT is why dealers maintain a sales force. I know, I know, free enterprise, buyer beware, all that. But those guys are pretty creepy which is why I love whittling their commission away when I buy one.
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