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#1 ·
I know the manual says change oil every 7500, but I was wondering should the first oil change be done sooner?
When was your first oil change and what kind of oil did you use?
 
#55 ·
Good point. I wouldn't recommend that either. I jack (or place stands) in front of the coil spring, between the spring and where the torsion beam connects and pivots on the frame rail (molded frame in the body's floor).

Another reason to put it there is that there's less leverage on the spring (the body will sink less when you remove the jack from the pinchweld area, hopefully using a block of some kind to jack on the reinforced raised platform, not the vertical seam itself).
 
#52 ·
Why is everyone so afraid of placing a jackstand next to the jacking point on the pinch weld? I've done this a few times on the Accent and the weld is as straight as it was on day 1. Maybe I'm being dumb doing it, but I sure don't feel like it's the wrong way to do it.
 
#54 ·
The adjacent areas are not as reinforced as what you will find where the jack was designed to goes, at least according to what I've read. I haven't tried it.

My car already has damage on the passenger side rear in front of where the factory jack location is, the weld is folded in. I guess someone was supporting it in a place they weren't supposed to, or with something they weren't supposed to when it was being lifted...
 
#63 · (Edited)
Yeah I envy those too, 2013AccentGS6MT. I am not very skilled at the task and paranoid about the whole thing... My gutless car can barely pull itself up the ramps. And the throttle feels like it's either on or off, so it's very easy to give it too much. I spend a lot of time rolling back down off of them and trying to get back up. ^_^ My wife's car has a more sane throttle response and more low end grunt so it's less of an ordeal.

The stops at the end of the ramps do a good job keeping it from going too far.
 
#68 ·
What do people think about using scissor jacks for lifting the car? I'm thinking about using 4 scissor jacks simultaneously, to avoid twisting issues, etc. There are some that are made for leveling RVs that seem extra strong. They would need wooden blocks with a groove cut into them as adapters for the pinch weld, but then so does every hydraulic floor jack I can find, and I can't afford 4 floor jacks. Small, inexpensive ($25) floor jacks that I find online all have user comments like leaks on garage floor, won't hold car up, stopped working 3rd time I tried it, drops like a rock once released- and so on.

I have 4 jack stands to lower the car onto once it's jacked up.

Is this a bad idea?
 
#70 ·
They would need wooden blocks with a groove cut into them as adapters for the pinch weld,
Someone put the GRIP adapter on a very solid scissor jack. That appears to be the same jack as this and this. It looks like a good solution. I don't think I'd buy 4 of these. I would just lift corners in phases, increasing the height of jackstands.

Small, inexpensive ($25) floor jacks that I find online all have user comments like leaks on garage floor, won't hold car up, stopped working 3rd time I tried it, drops like a rock once released- and so on.
I bought this Harbor Freight lift for about $60 on sale. It had a lot of comments like you described. I drained the hydraulic fluid and replaced it. It works fine.

I really think a lot of negative comments about inexpensive hydraulic jacks are due to jacks that weren't properly filled at the factory, or not bled, or poor fluid was used. Anything made in China is often assembled very badly. I've seen this with bicycles. Someone buys a Walmart bike and it has lots of problems in 3 months. But, if you take it apart when you first get it out of the box, clean, re-grease, readjust, reassemble all the bearing surfaces, cables, etc., it's a very good, dependable bike.

That's why I drained the fluid. I cracked the bleed/fill screw and heard hissing. That's an obvious sign it wasn't bled. I also couldn't see the fluid's level (the top of the fluid). So, I turned it upside down, let all the fluid run into a pan, and filled it with new fluid.

It works great.
 
#69 ·
My youngest son found a four post 6 ton lift on Craigs List for cheap. To get it cheap he had to remove it in 48 hours. He installed it my workshop. Uses 240 v power to drive hydraulic piston that lifts two 16 foot long ramps up six feet, using half inch steel cables and pulleys. Shop ceiling over 20 feet. Uses 100 psi air to release mechanical brakes at any height. He had to sink 16 one inch bolts in concrete floor to hold posts in place. Now that is a nice way to change oil at home.
 
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