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#1 Old 03-06-2009, 10:49 AM
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I have a 2006 V 6 Sonata which has a timing chain rattle on start up. Took it into a dealership in the Phoenix area.
They said the noise does not last long enough to warranty it. Does anyone know how long of a duration the noise has to last before they will warranty it? I have timed it from 2 seconds to as long as 6 seconds.
Also does anyone know why this condition is occuring, is there a seal that is cracked or wear of the cavity and oil is leaking out of the chamber, or is it a streached chain?
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Here's the description from the Hyundai TSB:
An updated timing chain tensioner is now available. This part may help reduce timing chain noise that may affect some vehicles during the initial 10 seconds of operation after prolonged storage.

I don't know if you've noticed that if you don't use the car on the weekend, then you start it up on Monday morning, it rattles like crazy. When you use it daily, the rattle isn't that bad. Try and let them keep the car for two days or so if they don't believe you. Either way, it needs to be changed. If they still don't wanna do it, try another dealer.

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QUOTE (seoulspeed @ Mar 6 2009, 12:04 PM)
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Here's the description from the Hyundai TSB:
An updated timing chain tensioner is now available. This part may help reduce timing chain noise that may affect some vehicles during the initial 10 seconds of operation after prolonged storage.

I don't know if you've noticed that if you don't use the car on the weekend, then you start it up on Monday morning, it rattles like crazy. When you use it daily, the rattle isn't that bad. Try and let them keep the car for two days or so if they don't believe you. Either way, it needs to be changed. If they still don't wanna do it, try another dealer.

Hope this helps.

The rattle occurs even after a short ( 10 minutes ) engine shut down on every start up and may lasts anywhere from 2 to 6 seconds based on time left shut down. I want to know if Hyundai has a qualifying time duration before they will do it under warranty. People within hearing distance notice the noise and often comment or give a look of ???. Not good advertising for Hyundai!!!
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Here's the link for the updated TSB:

http://www.jerrystout.us/sonata/tsb/timing...replacement.pdf

SERVICE PROCEDURE:
IMPORTANT: A customer complaint and statement related to start-up engine
sound must be documented on the repair order for any warranty
diagnosis and repair. Certain mechanical sounds occurring briefly
during initial engine start-up may be due to prolonged engine
shutdown or long-term storage, and may be considered normal.
Prior to engine disassembly, the customer complaint and severity of condition must be
confirmed:
Inspect the engine oil level, oil quality, and oil filter service duration.
Start the engine and once the engine has reached full operating temperature, turn
the engine off for 10 minutes.
After 10 minutes of engine shutdown, restart the engine.
Listen for any chain type noise that may occur briefly for several seconds
immediately upon engine start-up.
NOTE: If any start-up noise is observed, then restart engine after 10 minutes
and listen to the specific area shown below with an electronic
stethoscope (or equivalent). Repeat this several more times to confirm
the source point of the brief engine start-up sound before continuing on
to the service procedure.

NOTE: If there are no brief engine start-up sounds after repeated 10 minute
shutdown attempts, then do not perform the Service Procedure of this
TSB. The engine is operating normally. Submit Warranty claim for actual
time/straight time for inspection only.

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Hi Everyone. I am a new member. I have a 2007 with 72k. One day when I went to start up car to head to lunch I heard and awful rattling sound coming from engine. I shut off and restarted engine several times and would not go away. At first I though it was maybe a pulley with a bad bearing or something. I took it in to dealership. When I bought the car I paid for extended warranty so I was wondering if the were going to honor it or try and screw with me. For this reason I have had all my service done at the Dealership. I know probably not most economical but I just didnt want any problems if anything ever happened. I got to know the service writer pretty good , when I would call he always new who I was. But when I took it in and they were checking it out I asked if warranty was going to cover it and I heard him mummble something about it has over 65k. I thought I was going to have tohave to prepare for a fight. They kept car a week, the timeing tensioner had collapsed and fixed it under warranty. I even got a rent a car from them and we split it 3 ways me, dealership, and Hyundai and it only cost $37. I was very impressed
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welcome to the forum. good to hear they replaced the tensioner under warranty still. at 72k, i assume you purchased it used. either way, you got a good dealership behind you. good on you man! keep enjoying your sonata.

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im under the assumption that Hyundai would have to fix something that falls into the TSB category regardless if it is still under the factory warranty or not... TSB's are different than Warranty Fixes...
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QUOTE (ddix1026 @ Mar 6 2009, 10:04 AM)
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im under the assumption that Hyundai would have to fix something that falls into the TSB category regardless if it is still under the factory warranty or not... TSB's are different than Warranty Fixes...
Pretty sure it's the other way around. A TSB is just a communication about a potential problem with certain

Cars produced within a particular Time frame. The Tensionor could be considered part of the Powertrain.

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well, then that would suck if mine goes in another 10k miles because i dont have the 10/100k PT warranty (used car)..
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Update:
My Sharona went under the knife/wrench this morning. At 5 pm I called to check on her, and she was still under. The service manager told me that one cam was at 15 1/2, and the other was at 16 teeth, so they think the chain jumped a cog! They were going to check if that was the case. One tensioner offered absolutely no resistance, and was totally shot, until oil pressure built. It was definitely time to repair her. (Like one boob hanging lower that the other???) Hope she's ok tonight, all by her lonesome.

P.S. There was a really nice bright red "Tiburon" in the showroom, except it wasn't a Tibby, it was a Genesis coupe! Oppps. $34,800.
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