Okay here it is,after 2 yrs owning this car it has been in the shop for defects 8 times. The number keeps climbing as well, constant creaks,transmission trouble,steering problems,poor handling,noisey interior,engine misfire, now a/c noises and the vents don't open they get stuck.
So here it is,this car is the biggest piece of crap i ever owned ,I have done nothing but pamper and take care of it by the book and this is what I get? I am taking it this Monday to a dealer and hopeful I can get rid of it fast!
Some cars are just born bad. I had a similarly negative experience with a Santa Fe and ditched it while it still had value. Best of luck with the next ride!
Even if he means the Lantra Lubie it's something that will always be subjective. I remember a while back I was convinced that Magnaflow had quality control issues because I Googled it like an idiot. What I came to realize is that yes there were complaints and yes they were valid, but most people only take the time to do a write up on a part or a car or whatever when it fails. So with that being said it was obvious to me that for every or 3 complaints there was hundreds if not thousands of other people that were more than happy.
I'm not suggestion that he's wrong, his particular Lantra might be a lemon, my Accent of yesteryear was amazing even though most people I know had nothing but problems. Meh, I don't worry, this is why we have a waranty.
Mine has had a few defects too. They fixed them, I move on. Crap happens, it's an economy car, and I totally love it. As long as I have a warranty, and they'll supply a loaner, it's just not that big a deal.
There will always be lemons. Doesn't matter about brand or model. Maybe try your luck at another brand. Is your dealer at least good at fixing the issues you have?
If I laid out the amount of money that a Porsche commands and it turned out to be a lemon? I can't repeat that kind of language on here. :wink2:
But I'm having a hard time making the transition from Porsche to $13k to $16k and the "forgiveness" rationale. I may have misunderstood your intention.
I've seen the 16K Civic. While it is a nice car, and has a history of dependability, it's guilty of resting on past laurels, has become "tired" looking and vanilla in appearance. Thankfully for Honda, it has a loyal following of former owners and their descendants. Similar comparisons can be said for Toyota, as well. The 13K Elantra offers more bang for the buck and has better aesthetic appeal along with refreshing styling, IMO.
It's a matter of statistical analyzes that reveal how some cars get caught up on the bad side of the random ratio known as quality:lemon.
Every OEM is susceptible to this pitfall. It's a numbers game. No matter how many quality processes they put in place. Regardless of the corrective actions that are implemented to deter additional failures and eliminate errors.
Sadly no one has devised a plan to become exempt from their processes failing and thus becoming a victim of "just one of those days at the factory." They have gotten better. Fact. But they still have a long way to go. Especially when newly designed, lab tested parts are evolving so quickly and built into the new model offerings. Only lengthy performance over years of actual performance in the field do we have a hint of what to expect. If then. :mellow:
All that stuff I've just written, above, can be interpreted as a bunch of mumbo-jumbo when describing "lemons." You could boil it down to two words: "S*** happens!"
Have you seen the new Corolla yet? Not promoting it, just wondered how it compares to Ingrid. My daughter loves her 2013 Elantra Limited. Just the right size.
To me, the the new Corolla looks very bland. Looking at the front head on, it shows something possibly to get excited about. But than you start to walk around the car, and IMO, disappointment. Though I do the love the LED headlights on the Corolla. Boy do I get jealous every time I see them. I feel Toyota and Honda are doing the same with their Corolla and Civic. They're both staying safe and not deviating from the traditional styling. As Okie puts it, "tired" looking. Where Hyundai, Mazda, and Ford all made pretty big styling changes, and it worked! All three of the sub compacts from those car makers are eye catchers. Civic and Corolla, not so much.
I actually haven't seen the new Corolla. But your question has me wondering. The dealers are open for Memorial Day and I'm off for the holiday. I may have to stop by and have a look.
I had a neighbor that bought a new Civic coupe about 7 years ago. I wasn't impressed with it at all from an aesthetic point of view. The entire dash looked like cheap recycled pop bottle plastic. And the instrument console was nothing to write home about.
Your daughter probably thinks of herself as an Air Force jet jockey when she gets behind the wheel of her Elantra. That's what my dad refers to mine as: a jet cockpit. He may be onto something. Lots of stuff in there to occupy and entertain your eyes. My passengers even comment on it.
I wouldn't mind having a couple of mini guns behind the fog lights to aid me in motivating some of the idiots I encounter in front of me doing their routine stupid stuff. Be nice to have a laser gizmo that you could press the button and override and shut off those loud thumping radio tunes at the intersection. One click of the button: SILENCE! :devil: I don't want to share in their musical affinity when I'm in an opposing intersection, 75 feet away.
Regarding the Corolla, my gf and I test drive quite a few vehicles and that was one of them. Looks aren't the only thing bland, very hohum driving experience as well.
Yep. just for a bit of background, all of the Fortes sold here in the US are assembled in South Korea. So nobody knows among the Forte owners if the problem has been permanently fixed. For someone like me who researches stuff like this before buying a car, it really looks like totally bad news to me (because I'm kinda seriously looking at both the Elantra and Forte right now)
Well, I understood about one in every five words he was saying. But I got the jest of it. It was the ending that got me. I especially loved the ending. :laughing:
I've owned 3, two limited, and one GLS. Steering wheel peeling on one. Couple of check engine lights with the other, but all fixed under warranty and the cars kept their value when it was time to trade. This is an econo box, but one of the best ones out there!
today is my 2 years and 39k miles of having my 2013 limited, so far i still really like it.
so far the steering wheel was replaced due to peeling and the brake pads were recently replaced to the 'green pads' under TSB (only after i pointed the TSB out and informed them i had been complaining of grinding noise from day one).
new michelin tires @29k miles. did the kyb shock upgrade about a month ago.
i'm hoping to drive this thing until the wheels fall off.
I don't really care about the dash being hard plastic, so long as it doesn't look cheap, doesn't scratch super easy, and reflects glare.
Who touches the freaking dash, anyway? No one. What's wrong with auto jourlanlists always rating the dash plastic? I'd rather have soft touch plastics on the door, myself. One, they are just nicer to touch, and two, they don't scuff as easily and hold up better. Unfortunately, with the Elantra, Hyundai went all out on nice dash plastic and put cheap stuff on the top door sills (the reverse of what I would prefer).
I am leasing. My previous Elantra had 0 problems over the 30 months I had it, my new Elantra 2014 is also 0 defects since October 2014.
I guess it always is a little bit a matter of luck which car you get, but also a matter of QA. Mine is Korean, I wonder if the American made has better or worse QA results.
Speaking from someone with a 2011 Elantra with amost 30k it, Ive only had one time I had to take it in for maint work, and that was just for steering wheel peel. Maybe as this was my first car, I don't have many quirks to compare it to, but nothing in my mind is wrong with it. Honestly the only issue I had was one single cold start, the engine turned over, then just died for no reason. Started up fine after that and gave no issues. Granted my car sees common 3 hour long drives, I'm sure I'd notice any problems arise one of those trips.
After 3 years of ownership I'm still pretty happy with the purchase. I've have had to change tires due to tires bubbling and being eaten up by potholes. I think the suspension doesn't help with elevating this issue since its been "floaty" since we've had it. Just for comparison I have a 2001 3series with sport suspension and I've driven thru some of the same roads and whenever the Elantra hits the same road surfaces it feels/sounds like the Elantra suspension is about to explode. I don't know if later model years address this but other than that it's been a very good daily driver. It takes the brunt of the driving, it's very roomy for a small car and has allthe creature comforts. Luckily no major issues outside of regular maintenance and I don't baby this car at all.
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