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#1 Old 11-12-2011, 05:16 AM
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2012 Handling + Stock Tires

I've read quite a few posts from here and other forums about the stock tires on these cars. I have a fully loaded 2012 Elantra Limited with the Hankook Optimos. I drove from Sacramento to Calistoga today (Sat) via Hwy 128. It was wet and 128 has a lot of turns up and down hill and all around.

I pushed my Elantra on those wet windy roads as far as I was comfortable with (and I love driving hard) and I didn't feel like I could drive it off the road at all. Not that I was trying. lol But with the roads wet and stock tires I expected it to give some. But nope.

I bought a 2004 Volvo S40 in Nov 04. It came with Continental tires. They sucked. Even on dry pavement you could get the car to push in corners to where you'd have to let up so they would grip.

My 07 Sonata was just a big heavy beast with its v6 and the stock Michelins it came with were even worse than the Continentals on the Volvo.

So typically I buy Yokohama tires to put on my cars to replace the less than stellar factory tires that come on new cars. But with this Elantra's Hankooks, I'm thinkin' I will wait till I wear them out. If they perform as well on dry pavement as they did today on wet pavement then I'll be thrilled.

Which brings me to the handling factor (without thinking about the tires). I've read quite a bit about how the rear suspension isn't independent and how these Elantra's have quite a bit of body roll. Maybe I just got lucky because my Elantra is on rails. Again, I wasn't drivin' like Miss Daisy today. I was really getting into it because I want to know what to expect out of my new ride. I really didn't feel *any* (none, zero, nada) body roll whatsoever and I had 2 other ppl in the car with me (willing participants, I should add lol).

The Volvo S40 handled like a dream. I've never felt safer in a car based on its ability to take whatever I could (or was willing) to throw at it, but this Elantra spanks it hands down. It wouldn't be fair to compare the heavy Sonata to these two cars, but even that heavy thing handled pretty well. . .but nothing like the Volvo and certainly not like the Elantra.

Those of you that have really dug into your Elantra's and pushed them what are your experiences with the Hankook tires and just the Elantra's handling?
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I suppose I'll be the first to reply.

The Elantra, in my humble opinion, is not the best-handling car I've ever had, but then again, I'm getting more used to it every day.

I came from a long succession of older used cars, some good, some not.

The good:

'91 Honda Civic. Slowest car ever, though.
'91 Toyota MR2 - awesome ride.
'89 Honda Accord Lx-i - the one I traded in for the Elantra!

Why? Because they all had a low center of gravity. The Accord drove like it was on rails, even with the cheap tires I had on it. It had some play in the steering, due to age, and it was less powerful than other cars I've had, but I still drove the crap out of it.

If you're wondering about my credibility as a speedy driver, I still have 4 tickets on my record. That's not even all the times I've been pulled over and let go for being a decent-looking female.

The stupid Accord was a total cop-magnet, which is partly why I got rid of it after a year. I could go on about how many times cops stopped me just to pin false accusations onto me (drunk driving, drugs, weaving - so ridiculous!)

As I've said in another post, I almost wiped out, in the Elantra, on a set of sharp curves that I used to take every day to work. Never once came close to wiping out in the Accord. However, I've gotten used to the Elantra and don't fishtail anymore.

It's ridiculous to compare a 1989 Accord (even with how loaded it was: alloys, alarm system + keyless, floor lighting, spoiler, sunroof, aftermarket stereo sys, etc) to the excellent features on the Elantra. The stability control alone has saved my butt on several occasions. I wouldn't to back to the Honda. But I do miss that sneaky handling.

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Yea I also think the Hankook tires are fine. There are certainly better options but I see no reason to take them off early. After 1 rotation and around 10k miles they are wearing nice and even. I figure they will get 20-25k before needing replacement which is good for a tire this size. My old car handled a bit better than Elantra but everything else about this car is leaps and bounds better. I don't have any issues with rear end hop or body rolling or any of the other common complaints. I suspect that most people complaining about these are coming from larger, sportier, or more expensive rides.

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Coming from a low end Audi A4 with no stability control (no quattro), this is car is a world of a difference. Much better handling as it relates to turns, though the engine appears to work slightly harder than the Audi's did when revving up (as expected). I used to slow down at sharp round about exits off highways with the audi, now not so much. I still don't have a good feel as to how much I can push it so I'm not pushing it very hard too. Using stock tires as well.
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Those Hankook tires are sounding pretty nice for stocks. The Continentals that came with mine are mediocre on dry pavement and poor on wet. I don't have much experience with other cars of similar size so I can't comment on that aspect...
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Are you talking about Hankook Optimo 426? Our stock Hankooks suck. They grip OK on dry pavement, but wet traction is horrible. The traction control kicks in way too often. Have to take it slow when it's wet here with the Elantra. My GMC with Michelin MTX's corner better on wet streets than the little Elantra. And the road noise is the worst I've ever experienced. The car itself, is great.

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Are you talking about Hankook Optimo 426? Our stock Hankooks suck. They grip OK on dry pavement, but wet traction is horrible. The traction control kicks in way too often. Have to take it slow when it's wet here with the Elantra. My GMC with Michelin MTX's corner better on wet streets than the little Elantra. And the road noise is the worst I've ever experienced. The car itself, is great.
Yes, the Hankook Optimo H426s. Maybe its a tire pressure issue? I haven't checked the pressure in mine yet, so I can't give you a reference (I will get back to you on that), but coming down Hwy 50 out of Lake Tahoe today, once again, excellent performance. Some wet, mostly dry roads and not even a slight slip.
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I suppose I'll be the first to reply.

The Elantra, in my humble opinion, is not the best-handling car I've ever had, but then again, I'm getting more used to it every day.

I came from a long succession of older used cars, some good, some not.

The good:

'91 Honda Civic. Slowest car ever, though.
'91 Toyota MR2 - awesome ride.
'89 Honda Accord Lx-i - the one I traded in for the Elantra!

Why? Because they all had a low center of gravity. The Accord drove like it was on rails, even with the cheap tires I had on it. It had some play in the steering, due to age, and it was less powerful than other cars I've had, but I still drove the crap out of it.

If you're wondering about my credibility as a speedy driver, I still have 4 tickets on my record. That's not even all the times I've been pulled over and let go for being a decent-looking female.

The stupid Accord was a total cop-magnet, which is partly why I got rid of it after a year. I could go on about how many times cops stopped me just to pin false accusations onto me (drunk driving, drugs, weaving - so ridiculous!)

As I've said in another post, I almost wiped out, in the Elantra, on a set of sharp curves that I used to take every day to work. Never once came close to wiping out in the Accord. However, I've gotten used to the Elantra and don't fishtail anymore.

It's ridiculous to compare a 1989 Accord (even with how loaded it was: alloys, alarm system + keyless, floor lighting, spoiler, sunroof, aftermarket stereo sys, etc) to the excellent features on the Elantra. The stability control alone has saved my butt on several occasions. I wouldn't to back to the Honda. But I do miss that sneaky handling.
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I drove from Sacramento to Calistoga today (Sat) via Hwy 128. It was wet and 128 has a lot of turns up and down hill and all around.
LOL! I live right down the road from you in Elk Grove and have the same car althrough mine is an Alabama built I know this road and it can be a challenge.

I still don't see a many Elantra's in our area. Did you buy yours locally?

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LOL! I live right down the road from you in Elk Grove and have the same car althrough mine is an Alabama built I know this road and it can be a challenge.

I still don't see a many Elantra's in our area. Did you buy yours locally?
Indeed I did. I bought it at Roseville Hyundai, tho they had to get my car from Eureka. And you're right, I don't see a lot of Elantra's around here, which seems odd considering how difficult it was to find the one I wanted. The driving I did Friday and Saturday, from Sac to Calistoga, back, and from here to Apple Hill, then on to Tahoe and back yesterday, I think I saw 5 Elantra's (2011/2012s).

Had quite a scare last night coming into Placerville. We're about 2mi from the speed change where it changes down to 45mph before you come into Placerville. I'm in the right lane doin' 72ish, there's a minivan in the left lan about a car length ahead of me. We come around this one right curve and BAM out of nowhere there is a young deer standing (facing us) ON the line between us. I can't speak for the driver of the van, but I pooped a little when I saw it. lol Brand new car, and a deer is standing in the **** road threatening it's fresh paint. lol

Love the handling of this car and I'm pretty impressed with the stock tires.

BTW - In response to afpj, the tire pressure all around is 35psi on my car. No slips, no pushing in turns, no nothing. It feels like its absolutely glued to the road wet pavement or not.

When I say wet pavement, I'm not referring to pavement thats the result of a steady rain or a downpour. It's not soaked, its just wet pavement. Wet enough to make a bad set of tires slip and slide tho, at speed on windy roads.

I was haulin' arse comin' down 50 last night and nothin'. Was driving on a rail.


Bigdog, I never fully realized how bad the roads are in Sacramento. Or how many are bad, at least. You know you're in Sacramento because the roads go from smooth, to turds. lol

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