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#1 Old 06-01-2011, 11:19 PM
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I am new to the forum and I am hoping for some good advice.

I just purchased a 2011 Elantra and when the salesman and I went over the vehicle (brand new) we noticed a couple of chips out of the paint on the hood near the 'A' pillar. There is also a very small scratch 1/2" not to deep and a scuff on the hood. The salesman was not happy. The dealership owner was present and without me saying a word they decided the would paint the hood. I have an appointment to bring it in on Monday.

The treatment is stellar. I am very impressed.

The problem is this: I am concerned that the paint quality will not be as good as the factory paint.

I had a 2007 Civic that was showered with stones from an overpass and after it was painted it was never nearly as good as the factory paint. It chipped easier and looked like crap a year later.

I am wondering if anyone has an expert opinion or even personal experience to know the right course of action. I am not that concerned about the minor defects. If they touched it up and buffed the hood it would hardly be noticeable. Its a black car, its going to get scuffed a little here and there eventually.

I watched a Superbowl Sonata commercial that said they used a 14 step electro charged paint process. Is this done on the elantra? Will the body shop paint job be as durable?

Any advice would be appreciated.

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Nooooo.... no matter how well they paint it, it will never be as good as the factory paint. I would not take delivery of that car period.
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Repainted cars always have flaws (bumps, flecks, fish eyes, etc.), the colour often doesn't match from different angles, and sometimes there are adhesion problems. I would either take the car as-is (if the damage is minor and likely to be quickly exceeded in the real world), or insist on a different one.

Elantras and Sonatas are painted on the same assembly line.
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I have had my cars repaired by a professional body shop. The trick when painting is to "blend" the color of the panels that are not damaged so that the human eye does NOT detect the slight variation in color. It is also true that under CLOSE scrutiny one can find minor imperfections in a repainted car, but if the job was a good one you will be hard pressed to find them. In this case, I would get some QUIXX scratch remover for the scratch, you are going to need it anyway with a black car for the OTHER scratches you pick up. Remember, black is the hardest color to maintain and the most attractive when it is maintained. For the chip, I would get some black touch-up paint. Just repainting the hood might not be good and then what ? Good Luck !!
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Might have insisted too, to get some film protection done. which I highly recommend now, because of the new paint that they use

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I would not accept a new car that has been painted unless there is a very substantial discount. I wouldn't worry too much about the adhesion, as they are not likely to sand the hood down to bare metal.
Blending is an issue with all paints, but it's a real challenge with metallic, because of the properties of the metal particles when they are applied. The metal can lay slightly differently and you will see what appears to be a different color shade on the repainted section., due to how the light comes off the metal bits.

IF you do go along with the repaint on the hood, I'd recommend the following:
1. $500 or more off of the negotiated sales price
2. The opportunity to view the car in both sunlight and overcast or diffused lighting before taking delivery

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I would not accept a new car that has been painted unless there is a very substantial discount. I wouldn't worry too much about the adhesion, as they are not likely to sand the hood down to bare metal.
Blending is an issue with all paints, but it's a real challenge with metallic, because of the properties of the metal particles when they are applied. The metal can lay slightly differently and you will see what appears to be a different color shade on the repainted section., due to how the light comes off the metal bits.

IF you do go along with the repaint on the hood, I'd recommend the following:
1. $500 or more off of the negotiated sales price
2. The opportunity to view the car in both sunlight and overcast or diffused lighting before taking delivery
Most paint today is metallic, my three cars are all metallic ! I had body work done on the right rear quarter panel.
The bumper, trunk lid, the entire right side of the car around to the front fender of the other side along with the area
from the quarter panels leading to the roof under blending. It added over $1700 to the job, all approved by the insurance company. This is what is required to avoid the "gypsy" car look.
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Most paint today is metallic, my three cars are all metallic ! I had body work done on the right rear quarter panel.
The bumper, trunk lid, the entire right side of the car around to the front fender of the other side along with the area
from the quarter panels leading to the roof under blending. It added over $1700 to the job, all approved by the insurance company. This is what is required to avoid the "gypsy" car look.
problem is later on, the 2012 wont be using metallic but rather another kind, can't think of the new name

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A new car is a lot of money so I would not accept a new car with a repainted hood, I'd not feel like driving a brand new car but a damaged car that's been fixed. I'd ask for a discount or a new vehicle, I know this may be frustrating if you waited many weeks for your car. Be aware this is water-based paint and it chips easily, I had a protective film applied to mine because there were some chips on my hood and bumper after only 3 months.

Take care.

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IF you do go along with the repaint on the hood, I'd recommend the following:
1. $500 or more off of the negotiated sales price
2. The opportunity to view the car in both sunlight and overcast or diffused lighting before taking delivery
+1 I'd try this, if your happy then good, but it never hurts trying it out

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