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Front bearings...not looking good...

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#1 ·
It appears the front bearing on the driver's side is making noise. I thought it was but when I put the snow tires on it became more apparent.

Unfortunately it is too cold to do it now, but I don't know how much longer it will go. It's going in for a timing belt Tuesday, but I think the dealer will charge a lot more than it would cost just to do it myself. The bearing alone is $30, a Timken bearing and hub is $55.

There is a thread here that describes how to do it, but it broke down to a pissing contest between two members so the information stopped. I guess I would have to press the bearing out of the steering knuckle, and then press the new one in. I don't have a press but there are bearing removal/replacement tools available so you don't need a press. Doesn't look too hard, but it's just too cold for the time it will take me to do it.
 
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#2 ·
Link to "wee wee contest",, sound like fun

Remove spindle.

Knock hub out of bearing

Split race off nose of hub, save race

Remove snap-ring from spindle

Place race back into bearing

Set up spindle on press and push the old bearing out via pressure applied to inner race

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New bearing,, open gap of the races in the bore.... take some high quality grease (Mobil-1 Synthetic) and pack it into the gap the fill void between balls and cage.. you be surprised how much lube you can stuff in there

Push new bearing into spindle bore (I use aluminum race installer) over inner race to carry load into race to walk bearing into spindle bore

Install snap-ring (use new ring)

Support hub on press blocks (face down-studs down) with nose up

Set spindle with new bearing onto hub nose, and walk it home


Somewhere in this site I have old and new pics of bearing replace in steps
 
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I don't have a press...:(

One video did the whole thing in real time..it took the guy 22 minutes.

I've done the brakes and the struts myself, and when I do I reassemble with anti-seize, so getting most of the nuts and bolts out won't be too much of an issue.

What is the shop charge time on this? I wouldn't mind doing it myself, there are tools you can rent to press the bearings out and in...but I'm not in Florida...;) If it were going to be 60 degrees this weekend, I'd try it. Not afraid of tools, rust or grease.

I hope this car isn't going to be like the Mazda...everytime something went bad that needed to be replaced NOW was in the middle of February at 21 degrees. After 10 years of this I just gave the car away. :D
 
#4 ·
I don't think shop time is all that great, maybe 1.5 hours or less.

Bearings are my least favorite repair here in the heart of rust belt. That snap ring is just the worst. Can't count how many I've had to ease out with torches, lol.

I like the suggestion of packing grease in between. I'll have to try that. I do coat Everything in a layer of grease going back together, in hopes the next time isn't horrible. Even if it isn't me.

Last note - don't fight the abs sensor. If it won't come out, unplug it and leave it in the knuckle.
 
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Don't have ABS...;) Not a problem. I believe there is a speed sensor on the driver's side, shouldn't be too much of a problem.

The only real problem is cold. I like to be warm (not HOT!) when I'm working on a car. It's going to be 50 on Sunday, but since it's the first time doing it I want 2 days in case I need to 'extend' it. Also, no Timken bearing/hub locally. Have to get it from Rock Auto, and from the noises it's making I don't think I can wait that long. :(

And I would grease EVERYTHING going back together, just in case it has to be done again.

The mechanics must like me, because when I do maintenance I spray everything with rust penetrant to keep things easy to take apart...
 
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Oh yeah...and the rear brakes started grinding two days before that. :mad:

Spring can't come fast enough...
 
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Never know until you look, have to remove the rotor and you may find stones between it and the stone shield, or is this a stone gatherer.

May even find a loose stoner gatherer, like a loose screw causing this rattle. Do hubs really rattle? Usually they become very stiff and are about ready to seize. If you just driving it, may even burn your finger when touching it. I will say ouch for you.

Sure a lot of counterfeit Timken hub bearings, they don't last very long. Ebay would be my last choice. One, I was able to have access to the rear of the bub bearing, using my air hammer with a blunt tip, knock that sucker out in a hurry, but never know until you look, pays to look.
 
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@Old's Cool
Check with your dealership about whether they have any promotions or coupons in the service department, I get those all the time from my dealer. If you package everything together (timing belt etc.) you might be able to get a good discount, can't hurt to ask, good luck :)
Ugh. I'll have to look...I think I threw it away...:(
 
#12 ·
Even if you threw out the mailer I bet your dealership will give you the discount if you ask. My dealership has coupon books and when I am there waiting on my oil change they just hand them out to anyone who needs one. You can also check their website or your email for any printable coupons.
 
#13 ·
I changed both last year. The dealer wanted over $120 per hub just to replace the bearing and that is with me bringing in the hub. Got a local shop to R&R the bearing on the loose hub for ~$40 each with the bearing at about $25 each.

The speed sensor is on the passenger side and you have to disconnect it from the loom as no way will it come out in one piece. You have to remove the fender liner.

http://www.hyundai-forums.com/mc-2006-2011-accent/470345-wheel-bearing-replacement.html
 
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I changed both last year. The dealer wanted over $120 per hub just to replace the bearing and that is with me bringing in the hub. Got a local shop to R&R the bearing on the loose hub for ~$40 each with the bearing at about $25 each.

The speed sensor is on the passenger side and you have to disconnect it from the loom as no way will it come out in one piece. You have to remove the fender liner.

http://www.hyundai-forums.com/mc-2006-2011-accent/470345-wheel-bearing-replacement.html
I read that thread when you posted it.

The one thing the guy in the Windstar video had that I don't have is a sunny, warm day. ;)

You can borrow the press he used at AutoZone.

However...the wheel made a funny noise tonight, so when I got home (of course, at 9PM and 36 degrees. Couldn't do it at 3PM and 50 degrees...:mad:) I took the wheel off and had a look around. Hub is tight, no slop, but, when I took the wheel off it didn't take a lot of effort to get the lug nuts off. They weren't real loose, but they weren't as tight as the other wheels, either. I took the wheel off, looked around and then went for a cup of coffee. The car even felt different. I think the nuts were just loose enough to let the wheel move the slightest bit.
 
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I was supposed to bring the car in today but I work per diem, and after sitting here twiddling my thumbs yesterday I have more work than I can do in one day today, so I cancelled. Yeah, there have been some popping noises, but I have a cupped tire as well. Hard to determine exactly where it's coming from right now. No LOUD pops, but some wub-wubs and a clunk.

When I had the wheel off and turned the rotor I got a clicking from the CV joint. Think that's going to have to be done in the next ~5,000 miles, and may be the source of what I'm hearing.
 
#19 ·
When i finally realized what was wrong after hearing the "tire noise" get louder and louder; I heard a popping noise when turning in the parking lot. This continued and I finally pulled over thinking it was a CV joint. Well I couldn't see anything and proceeded on my way home about 20 miles. Getting out on the Interstate and up against some concrete dividers the popping noise was very loud so I limped home at about 40 mph. After getting home and jacking up the front I grabbed the wheel and is was wobbling on the bearing.
 
#20 ·
Got me an Accent front bearing tomorrow (Wed).. need anything while I am doing it ?

This car rough.. States whirring sound at speed,,, what speed,, thing has 2 midfire code and barely get out of it' own way when I got the car.. make it run, then I'll drive it....... got daring, try to go across our large lot,, HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM just going across lot..

Our only 4 coil on shelf got put into another Accent that was in with mine, that customer called back before mine did..
 
#21 ·
Send me the press when you're done.

Tomorrow is going to be 65 degrees, sunny, nice day, and I have no parts and no press. But, it's going in for 120,000 mile service anyway, timing belt, etc...

I took one look at the procedure for the belt and said fu...er, to heck with that!

BTW, since tightening up the lug nuts on the driver's front, almost all the nasty habits have disappeared. There is kind of a wub-wub-wub-wub sound, esp at low speeds. I was hearing it with the summer tires, but it's louder with the snows on...
 
#22 ·
Mine come right apart for most part.. had to man-handle the stuck caliper bracket bolts to spindle, chased (4) 12x1.25 bolt holes for debris (rust),, and the sensor had to stay with the spindle (rust grip on sensor body to bore),, so I had to carefully peel the pigtail off strut and fender..

I did pack the brg through the gap between races,, I do that so they last longer
 
#23 ·
I did the brakes ~30,000 miles ago, and I coat everything with grease or anti-seize. That way I don't have to fight things when I have to do it again. Also keeps shop time down if I bring it in for service.
 
#25 ·
Ohhhkayyyyy...

Timing belt done. Had all belts replaced since one of them (probably alternator) was squealing when cold or when steering wheel was turned all the way one side or the other. A few other nickle and dime things.

The bearings are OK. Not pristine, but don't need to be replaced yet. Maybe in August or September I'll attempt to replace them.

However...the crank pulley for the accessory belts has that rubber damper, right? Well, sort of. It was deteriorated so it had to be replaced. Nearest one was in Bridgeport CT, 90 miles away, but this dealer must have been the last stop on the route. So, I borrowed a Sonata for $25 and will get the Accent back tomorrow...

If I don't run off with the Sonata...;)
 
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