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Question '03 Accent won't crank/start

Hello from Michigan and my 2003 Accent GL sedan. We seem to have an electrical problem that suddenly popped up without warning. I have been driving it trouble free for about 25k miles. (205500 miles or so on it)

I stopped yesterday at a friend's house for an hour or so, then when I tried to start the car, all of the indicator lights came on like normal, but the starter did not crank at all. There is no 'click' at all. I tried moving shifter to free up neutral safety switch, no change. I tested the 6 month old battery, it is in 'Optimal Performance' level. I tried to jump it, nothing. Headlights and all accessories work just find. Key turns smoothly and I did NOT have to turn wheel to get it to turn. (Though I have tried that with and without the brake trick several times, also to no avail.)

No engine light came on prior to the issue. I read the OBDII codes after no start situation came up.and they told me intermittent misfire in CYLS 1/4. I replaced plugs, though that would not fix my current issue..

I am unsure where to go next. May I please ask for some suggestions?

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Hello George, welcome to the forum

The first thing I like to do when I have an engine that wont crank is bypass the START relay on the engine bay fusebox. If that makes the engine crank you at least know the battery, main engine ground, the wiring between the fusebox and the starter motor, and the starter itself are all good. WOW...you eliminated all those possibilities in less than a minute...if it cranks

Make sure the shifter is in P/N and switch the ignition on. Remove the START relay from the engine bay fusebox then use a short link wire to bridge the two terminals on the relay socket on the fusebox as shown below. Hopefully that will make the engine start.

Let us know how you get on with that then we can decide what the next step should be.

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Hmmmm..

I saw sparks when I crossed the two terminals, but no cranking. While listening to the relay and key turned to 'Start', I heard the relay 'click'. No crank in Park or Neutral.
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Assuming the safety neutral switch is okay
And the starter relay is okay
And the battery is okay
Then it pretty much comes down to the starter
Can you measure the voltage at the starter while the key is in the start position?
If you have good voltage at the starter and at the starter s post then it could be the starter
Sometimes whacking the starter while the key in start will bring the starter motor work for one more time
And this is a valid test if you can not get to the electrical terminals of the starter ... give it a whack/tap
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I saw sparks when I crossed the two terminals, but no cranking.
Well it didn't crank so the problem "might" be the starter. A spark but no clunk sound from the starter usually means the brushes inside the starter are worn and as avisitor suggests, hitting the back end of the starter (where the brushes are inside) can sometime make the brushes move and get the engine to crank. You need to do it while the key is held in the crank position, or the relay is bypassed if you don't have a helper. Just be careful where your placing your hands in case the engine suddenly decides to turn over. It would be a good idea to do a voltage drop test between the engine block and the battery negative terminal too while the relay is bypassed. A poor engine ground could cause the same symptoms.
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Did not work. Had to work days until today. Started pulling air cleaner, filters etc, to get to Neutral safety switch and starter. Ordered used start from LKQ for $37.00 and will test before putting on at Auto Parts store. (Yes, I'll be testing my starter/Solenoid as well.) I will let you know end result.
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I hope you did as @AUTOSPARK suggest and test for a bad engine block ground???
Maybe a video or two might help understand the problem.


This one should be seen

Hope you get a better understanding

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Yes, and as a matter of fact I replaced the negative harness since I had access to one in new-perfect condition. Battery passed load test as well, and the replacement cable has no corrosion and I cleaned the block & Chassis where the Negative cables connect. I'm takin gold starter to get tested tomorrow... Um... Later this morning. New starter arrived with solenoid attached and wife already had it tested - it works fine.

Thanks for guidance again. Will give update when I have it!
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Hello! Me and my Accent are happy now. Starter and Solenoid BOTH failed when they were bench tested. Put replacement used starter that DID come with a solenoid into the car and it fired up on first try. Wire braid between starter and solenoid was severely corroded and when tilted back and forth the starter made noise like the armature was moving freely lengthwise. Not a good sound as the replacement did not move at all.

LKQ auto parts sold me the starter with solenoid for only $37.00 and I found 'How to replace the starter on a 2002 Hyundai Accent' by
'jimthecarguy' on Youtube to learn how to replace the starter. All I had to buy extra was one each of 14, 17 and 10 MM good quality sockets to do the job myself! BTW, my 2003 is EXACTLY like the 2002 Accent in the video. I think maybe mine is one of those almost 2003 Accents which cross the model year line from the previous year.

Thanks everyone for the help and guidance.

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Um, yeah, I did watch the video above first! I FORGOT TO SAY THAT!
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