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post Jul 1 2009, 10:26 PM
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Wasssssup all, Steve here. I've been looking into some serious performance gaining mods, aside from a turbo. Since I just financed my new car I don't think I'll be able to do much to it at the moment, considering it voids my warranty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . The best mods you can do personally, are an intake, chip and exhaust. Everyone agree? I've been doing some research on some mods I WOULD do, if I COULD... Firstly I would chip my car... Then, I'd work on installing something similar to bloodninja's catback setup. I'd then add a dual electronic force-flow air intake; pushing 2.1lbs boost. THESE ARE IDEAL FOR 4CYL CARS FROM WHAT I'VE READ. Everyone is welcome to visit http://www.force-flow.com/. Tell me of your findings, and opinions. I had a friend that had one, and the difference in throttle response, and top-end was very, very noticeable; moreso then any other cold air intake or short ram I've been around. My final mod would be to later look into turbo charging mine as it's one of my favorite looking cars.
Hit me with what ya' got!

Also wondering if anyone has experience with force-flow, etc. Please, take the time to reply.

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QUOTE (StevenWang @ Jul 1 2009, 09:26 PM) *
Wasssssup all, Steve here. I've been looking into some serious performance gaining mods, aside from a turbo. Since I just financed my new car I don't think I'll be able to do much to it at the moment, considering it voids my warranty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . The best mods you can do personally, are an intake, chip and exhaust. Everyone agree? I've been doing some research on some mods I WOULD do, if I COULD... Firstly I would chip my car... Then, I'd work on installing something similar to bloodninja's catback setup. I'd then add a dual electronic force-flow air intake; pushing 2.1lbs boost. THESE ARE IDEAL FOR 4CYL CARS FROM WHAT I'VE READ. Everyone is welcome to visit http://www.force-flow.com/. Tell me of your findings, and opinions. I had a friend that had one, and the difference in throttle response, and top-end was very, very noticeable; moreso then any other cold air intake or short ram I've been around. My final mod would be to later look into turbo charging mine as it's one of my favorite looking cars.
Hit me with what ya' got!

Also wondering if anyone has experience with force-flow, etc. Please, take the time to reply.

Visit:
http://www.force-flow.com/

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Leave... What a clown. It's the wackest **** I've ever seen or heard. I bought one for a friend as a joke... He put it on his car, sounded like **** and clogged the exhaust... It's sad that anyone would ever buy this to be honest. It's legit, a joke, a scam, a piece of ****. To top if off, we tightened that **** thing on there... TO THE MAX. It fell off within the day. Rofl. Doofus.
First post btw <3.

feel the same way about that site.
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post Jul 1 2009, 10:44 PM
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I did too. But meh, the videos I've seen, and the unit I've seen on a vehicle... Seems pretty good? Idk, aid me in my research I guess. One of the main reasons I came here. Wanted to really discuss this mod with some people...

Worth watching all three...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z12X3VgglIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ZnAlYjozI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA0eMH7tkv0


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-hlFQ0RDl8

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post Jul 1 2009, 10:46 PM
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id rather put a dyson hand held vacuum on my intake over that...
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post Jul 1 2009, 10:54 PM
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I'm most-likely going to buy one. This guy did the test on a three liter. It's ideal for a inline 4cylinder, just like the Accent. Also if you notice his intake is so far from his throttle body. And I believe I read you have to upgrade your alternator? Hmmm, interesting.
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:09 PM
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COME ON!!!! do you really believe that bull crap? give that money and i will send you my grandma hair dryer, will work better. shipping included (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Umm, why are you still all about it even after posting that last video, where it shows the thing obviously doesn't work.

IMO, people should stay away from electric fans and anything that says it atomizes air (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) .
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:29 PM
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WOW!
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Well he said, his test wasn't final. And as I stated, it's not close to the throttle body etc. That fan, just being ran produces 10 psi. When the car is turned on it supposed to produce 2.1 or over do to vacuum loss. It all seems quite logical... I'll do the test, and I'll show you MY findings. I can't really go based off anything else. Was just wondering if anyone HERE had any experience with TOP BRAND ones.

My friend had one, it DOES something... And how much is an AEM intake? $310.00+... So this isn't that much more. Also, they recommend using this with a BOV. That extra filter on the top you see is to release back pressure... This all makes logical sense. Something is sucking in air. More air = more power? I don't get as to how it could NOT produce better HP gains then a regular AEM intake, or stock box. Discuss.

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post Jul 2 2009, 12:11 AM
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that was hilarious, use it with a BOV? do you even know what the BOV do?
im sorry dude, all what you are saying doesnt make sense at all. if you, even tho we warned you, still decide to buy this POS, then go head but please do not encourage other people to do so, because is a completely misleading of information.
Is not about givin more air what give you more power, more cold is gonna run you lean, meaning more gasoline thus an extra power as you call it. you should read a more about intakes and from there go.

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QUOTE (StevenWang @ Jul 2 2009, 12:33 AM) *
Well he said, his test wasn't final. And as I stated, it's not close to the throttle body etc. That fan, just being ran produces 10 psi. When the car is turned on it supposed to produce 2.1 or over do to vacuum loss. It all seems quite logical... I'll do the test, and I'll show you MY findings. I can't really go based off anything else. Was just wondering if anyone HERE had any experience with TOP BRAND ones.

My friend had one, it DOES something... And how much is an AEM intake? $310.00+... So this isn't that much more. Also, they recommend using this with a BOV. That extra filter on the top you see is to release back pressure... This all makes logical sense. Something is sucking in air. More air = more power? I don't get as to how it could NOT produce better HP gains then a regular AEM intake, or stock box. Discuss.



Actually you can go to hyundaiparts4u.com, buy the AEM sri for 245 and add another 80 and u can sit pretty with an engine damper which would in essence help with throttle ORRR
bypass those options and if u have a friend that has a small shop in his garage buy the pieces for your custom exhaust and improve performance that way for the price.... all these options
would make u happier than experimenting with something that commercially appeals to your senses but in honesty might if anything give u fractional improvements to throttle... for that much money...
just my 2 cents....
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post Jul 2 2009, 12:53 AM
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Well... This could be a notable video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xE3m5PHCIE

The gain from this has to be significant... How could it not? I'm going to do it the way they tell you to do it. Close to the throttle body, and use it with some type of bypass valve or BOV. It should build up some form of back pressure when you let off the the throttle hard. I've worked on turbo-charged vehicles for over four years. I know my ****. I've never once tested one of these... But I think I should. Gives good sound from what I hear too. And it will evidently aid me in the long run when I install a turbo. It should DEFINITELY help with lag.

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Ok... Now this is getting serious... What the **** is this?
http://www.boosthead.com/home.php ?
Anyone with information on these types of electrically charged air induction performance mods please reply.

Featured in a magazine?
http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0406tur_knight/index.html

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QUOTE (StevenWang @ Jul 1 2009, 10:53 PM) *
Well... This could be a notable video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xE3m5PHCIE

The gain from this has to be significant... How could it not? I'm going to do it the way they tell you to do it. Close to the throttle body, and use it with a welded BOV. It should build up some form of back pressure when you let off the the throttle hard. I've worked on turbo-charged vehicles for over four years. I know my ****. I've never once tested one of these... But I think I should. Gives good sound from what I hear too. And it will evidently aid me in the long run when I install a turbo. It should DEFINITELY help with lag.


OK, that video is absurd.
Electronic turbo-super-vortex-whatevers DON'T WORK. If they did, no one would use real turbos or SC's.

Spend your money, test it out, keep the results or share them, whatever. I am reasonably sure no one else (on this forum at least) will ever buy that overpriced ebay crap. You are obviously not going to listen to reason when you ignore the very video you yourself put up stating that the thing did not work.
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QUOTE (StevenWang @ Jul 1 2009, 11:16 PM) *
Ok... Now this is getting serious... What the **** is this?
http://www.boosthead.com/home.php ?
Anyone with information on these types of electrically charged air induction performance mods please reply.

Featured in a magazine?
http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0406tur_knight/index.html


And see how gigantic it is and what it takes to power it (along with the price tag) compared to that tiny little fan you want to buy.

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WTF? One delivers 15 PSI?
BOLT ON?
http://ecycle.com/supercharger.html
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QUOTE (ultragod @ Jul 2 2009, 02:23 AM) *
OK, that video is absurd.
Electronic turbo-super-vortex-whatevers DON'T WORK. If they did, no one would use real turbos or SC's.

Spend your money, test it out, keep the results or share them, whatever. I am reasonably sure no one else (on this forum at least) will ever buy that overpriced ebay crap. You are obviously not going to listen to reason when you ignore the very video you yourself put up stating that the thing did not work.


No sir. They do work, just not as well? Anyway, I found one that pushes 15psi.
http://ecycle.com/supercharger.html
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QUOTE (StevenWang @ Jul 1 2009, 11:38 PM) *
No sir. They do work, just not as well? Anyway, I found one that pushes 15psi.
http://ecycle.com/supercharger.html


ok (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beathorse.gif)
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hahahahahahaha....
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QUOTE (StevenWang @ Jul 2 2009, 02:38 AM) *
No sir. They do work, just not as well? Anyway, I found one that pushes 15psi.
http://ecycle.com/supercharger.html

Most likely incorrect... First off, it looks like a freaking computer case fan. Secondly, the wording on the site is highly confusing, and therefore fool-proof in a court of law.
They state:
# Up to 15psi delivered (above ambient)

Note, they are not claiming that it MAKES 15 psi. They are stating that 15 psi is "above ambient pressure", which of course we know, since the normal atmospheric pressure is approximately 14.7 psi. Therefore it's making .3 psi boost. That's a word-play ploy, if you ask me. Doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

ADDITION... Their site says they're located in Temple, PA. That's right next to Reading, PA, which is about 1 hour from where I live. Maybe I'll go pay them a visit and ask to see some Dyno results conducted by independent Dyno shops in the area. Then, of course, ask for a copy of the dyno print-out, take it to the shop that supposedly conducted it, and inquire away LOL. If there's no dyno, it's not legit, as ANY legitimate company would be able to show at least some results.

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