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Mar 29 2009, 01:20 AM
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I am not very good at taking pictures in the dark so these pics are what they are. The blazing orange lights looking out of the windshield are coming from my parking lights reflecting off of the white garage walls. I have 5 extra bright LED lights under each side of the body that go on with the auto unlock or when the doors are open. They are connected to the interior lighting system. They offer a great deal of entry lighting. The interior has blue LED lighting in the foot wells, maplights and the dome light. David <><
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Mar 29 2009, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE (Meagain @ Mar 29 2009, 12:00 AM)  Very cool! So wow, does the Santy have footwell lights stock or did you add the lighting there? I think I like the lights on the ground idea for when doors are open. They are attached to the underside of the bar? How is that set up?
Gosh I need to buy the car already. The Santa Fe does NOT come with foot well lights so I had to tap into the overhead lighting system. Then I used the footwell lights wire to connect to my exterior lighting. The exterior lights are installed under the body, inboard of the chrome bars. I made "L" brackets for each light, then I used double sided tape and then sprayed undercoating over the lights and wires. Of course I masked off the lenses before doing all of this. Maybe the pics will give you somewhat of an idea how it all came out. David <><
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Mar 29 2009, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (congo @ Mar 29 2009, 03:58 AM)  Looks good. A couple of questions...
Do the LEDs that are connected to the interior lighting circuit dim out like the dome lights after a while or do they just sort "go out" once the dome lights are at a certain dimmed brightness?
In the pic showing the lighting of the foot well on the passenger side, it looks like you mounted the LED in the lower part of the center console. Is this correct? I think I would like to do this but I want more of a light bath rather than the intense light of the LED. That's why I'm thinking of incandescent for the footwells only.
I like the outdoor lighting as well. My Ford Explorer had puddle lamps mounted in the outside mirrors and I think I'd like to try that in the SF. I'm thinking it should be easy since the front doors have the lights already powered in the bottom.
Do you have any lighting under the front seats that light up the back seat foot wells?
Congo LEDs dim slowly, just like incadescent bulbs. You would be surprised just how much light there is in the foot wells. Although the pic shows a bright spot, the rest of the foot well is bathed quite well. You don't want to use the power from the door. That light only comes on when the door is opened and immediately goes off when it is closed. You want to tap into the interior lighting circuit so that the lights come on with the remote unlock and go off after you have exited and locked the vehicle with the remote. This gives you time to have exterior lighting prior to reaching the vehicle and some time after exiting the vehicle. The lights do not go off until either after 30 seconds (perhaps it is 1 minute) or remote locking happens. I don't have lighting under the front seats as I almost never have rear passengers. David <><
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Mar 29 2009, 08:55 PM
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Thanks for the answers. I hadn't noticed that the door lights were wired separately from the other lights. Thanks for the tip (IMG: style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) Did you pick up the foot well lights at Walmart? I recall seeing something similar at the Walmart here in Canada. Thanks, Congo
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Mar 30 2009, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE (congo @ Mar 29 2009, 06:55 PM)  Thanks for the answers. I hadn't noticed that the door lights were wired separately from the other lights. Thanks for the tip (IMG: style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) Did you pick up the foot well lights at Walmart? I recall seeing something similar at the Walmart here in Canada. Thanks, Congo I picked up my "4" LED units at a local truck stop but have also seen them on the Web. These particular units come in chrome plated plastic or plain black plastic. They also come in 2, 4, and 6 LED bulb types. As you can see, I am using the four LED units. David <><
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QUOTE (canderson @ Mar 30 2009, 09:16 PM)  I'm finding that the map lights in the overhead console of my '08 Ltd are pretty weenie. Granted, my eyes aren't what they were when I was 20, either, but these are weaker than any vehicle I've owned recently. Anyone have suggestions on LED replacements for these that produce significantly more light? Try this LED bulb from V-LEDs. This is the most powerful LED bulb that I have found, if you think that spending this amount of money on a pair of light bulbs is reasonable. Before this one, I have used a 5-LED bulb, but that one did not provide the needed amount of light. The design of the light sockets of the map lights, as well as the design of the light sockets of the lights above the rear doors, is not perfect - there is not a lot of space around the bulb, the reflector is too close to the bulb, and the electrical socket itself is positioned at an angle. In simple words, it was designed for a clear incandescent bulb only. So, if you put a LED bulb which has LEDs positioned on all sides, a lot of light output becomes wasted. The LED bulb that I suggested has all LEDs on one side. So despite the fact that it will be positioned at an angle, it will produce the most powerful light output for the map light (the lens will deflect the light in the right direction). Another solution is to take the non-transparent plastic part (that seat between the plastic lens and the housing) out of the map lights. Then you will have a lot of light, but it will not be concentrated, and I personally don't think that the map lights look good after this modification. Also note that the light color temperature of LEDs of 6000K-6500K may not be the most suitable for your eyes. I am OK with this, but some prefer warm-white light - approximately 3500K. P.S. I have replaced all incandescent light bulbs inside and outside… (well, almost all, except the turn signal repeaters that I still cannot pull out to change the bulbs, side markers that I have a completely different LED-based solution for, and instrumental lights).
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Mar 31 2009, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE (McLarrick @ Mar 30 2009, 03:52 PM)  Try this LED bulb from V-LEDs. This is the most powerful LED bulb that I have found, if you think that spending this amount of money on a pair of light bulbs is reasonable. Before this one, I have used a 5-LED bulb, but that one did not provide the needed amount of light. The design of the light sockets of the map lights, as well as the design of the light sockets of the lights above the rear doors, is not perfect - there is not a lot of space around the bulb, the reflector is too close to the bulb, and the electrical socket itself is positioned at an angle. In simple words, it was designed for a clear incandescent bulb only. So, if you put a LED bulb which has LEDs positioned on all sides, a lot of light output becomes wasted. The LED bulb that I suggested has all LEDs on one side. So despite the fact that it will be positioned at an angle, it will produce the most powerful light output for the map light (the lens will deflect the light in the right direction). Another solution is to take the non-transparent plastic part (that seat between the plastic lens and the housing) out of the map lights. Then you will have a lot of light, but it will not be concentrated, and I personally don't think that the map lights look good after this modification. Also note that the light color temperature of LEDs of 6000K-6500K may not be the most suitable for your eyes. I am OK with this, but some prefer warm-white light - approximately 3500K. P.S. I have replaced all incandescent light bulbs inside and outside… (well, almost all, except the turn signal repeaters that I still cannot pull out to change the bulbs, side markers that I have a completely different LED-based solution for, and instrumental lights). Thanks for this info. I think I am going to go with that Map light you suggested and give that a Try, but I have questions regarding th bulb types for the Dome,Cargo, and Vanity lights. Sylvania lists the Dome and Cargo as DE3175 Festoon but I have heard people using 6414 Festoon, So which did you use? Also what is the bulb type for the vanity lights you used. Thanks,
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Mar 31 2009, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (McLarrick @ Mar 30 2009, 01:52 PM)  Try this LED bulb from V-LEDs. This is the most powerful LED bulb that I have found, if you think that spending this amount of money on a pair of light bulbs is reasonable. Might be workable, and while $20 seems a bit steep, getting something I can actually use to read something is worth a few bucks. I note that these are 2W units. Current white LED efficiency is about 5X ~ 10X of incandescent per watt in this size. I'm hoping it's on the high side since these are already 10W bulbs. Then again, with all of the light aimed down, that may help a great deal since there's no dependence on the so-so quality reflector to capture and redirect the rest of the light headed in every other direction. Even a 5X improvement in lumens/watt could be a sizable improvement under those conditions.
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QUOTE (grunt73 @ Mar 31 2009, 04:50 PM)  Thanks for this info.
I think I am going to go with that Map light you suggested and give that a Try, but I have questions regarding th bulb types for the Dome,Cargo, and Vanity lights. Sylvania lists the Dome and Cargo as DE3175 Festoon but I have heard people using 6414 Festoon, So which did you use? Also what is the bulb type for the vanity lights you used.
Thanks, A word of caution first:I checked with the Sylvania replacement guide for 2008 Santa Fe bulbs and it says that 6411 is used for the map light. However, I checked the online parts manual, and it shows 194 for the map lights on the 2008 U.S. models. The same is confirmed in this post on this forum, yet from Canada (I am not sure if there are difference between the U.S. and Canadian models or the car in reference is not a U.S. model). Also, I do not think that there are any differences in the interrior lighting in Santa Fe models build for different markets (however, there are definetly differences in head and tail lights). All information provideded here is based on the European 2.2 CRDi (diesel) model with automatic transmission and all-wheel drive. Before buying the bulbs, please refer to the owner's manual that came with your vehicle or the actual bulbs on your vehicle.grunt73, I think rico79 meant 6411 in his post (the same post that I mendioned above), at least I am not aware of 6414 festoon bulbs. So, if we are talking about using 6411 (41 mm) festoon bulbs instead of DE3175 (31 mm), then the general answer is "No, we can't use them interchangeably." However, the dome and cargo lights of Santa Fe use DE3423 or DE3425 (36 mm) bulbs. So with 36 mm bulbs, we are usually safe with +/-3 mm in length. We can try to relax this assumption to +/-5 mm, yet in this case we might need to bend the connectors slightly. I have used 6411 (41 mm) LED bulb for the dome light, instead of the stock DE3423 (36 mm) incandescent one. Actually, the variety of the small automotive lamp types may blow your mind: DE3423 is very similar to 6423 (actually, it is the one on the European models according to the Sylvania specs). All you have to remember that there are 29, 31, 36, and 41 mm festoon bulbs (with some sizes in between). So, now back to the main question: What do I have on my 2008 Santa Fe? Vanity Lights - 31 mm Festoon Bulb (DE3175):Currently I have a no-name Chinese 1W high-power LED bulb, very similar to this one from TunerDomes.com. (IMG: http://www.tunerdomes.com/images/uploads/Parts/DE3175_1W_sm.jpg) The light output is more than enough, many may found it too bright. Hint:To open the light, you will need a very (very-very) small screwdriver (the one which used for repair of whatches or eyeglasses). Then you will need a lot of skill to take the transperent lens out of the vanity light module. However, I want to try this 5000K one from V-LEDs. Why? Ladies may be scared by looking at their faces in blueish light (6000K-6500K of the regular LEDs). Note that V-LEDs' LED bulb is only 29 mm in length - hopefully, it will not fall out. The connector design in the vanity light is different from the one used in the dome and cargo lights: In the vanity and glove box lights, the bulb is held by its tips. However, with a set of pliers the problem - if it presents itself - can be solved. Glove Box Light - 36 mm Festoon Bulb (6423 or similar as described above):Currently I have a no-name Chinese 2W high-power LED bulb, very similar to this one from TunerDomes.com. (IMG: http://www.tunerdomes.com/images/uploads/Parts/6418_1w_sm.jpg) Note:The actual LED bulb is 37 mm in length - kind of too long for the connector (yet it fits). Consider finding slightly shorter bulb, maybe 33-35 mm. Front and Rear* (Above Rear Doors) Map Lights (194 Wedge Type Bulb):* It appears that some U.S. models do not have rear map lights - at least 2.7 L FWD MT, if the reference that I checked is correct. Like I said in my previous post, the best one is this 4 LED bulb from V-LEDs. The alternatives are this or this 5 LED bulbs, but the will produce less light output due to the problems that I described in my previous post. They can be also be used as license plate lights - see below. Dome and Cargo Lights - 36 mm Festoon Bulb (6423 or similar as described above):The best one is this 20 LED bulb from V-LEDs. It is 33 mm long and 24 mm wide. Despite smaller than the nominal 36 mm length, it fits perfectly well without any need to adjust the connectors. The main idea - you want it to be as big as possible, so the light is spread over the surface of the lens. With a 1-, 2-, or 4-LED bulb, you will have a very narrow illuminated area - not the entire interrior or the trunk compartment, yet a 2-LED 2W or 4-LED bulbs produce decent results for the cargo light. Previously, I used a 12-LED 41 mm festoon bulb, similar to this one. License Plate Lights (168 Wedge Type Bulb):Currently, I have a 9-LED bulb similar to this one - see the attachments. The idea is to have an even, wide light distribution over the license plate, not a narrow light beam. The pictures are taken without flash - so the light is not that blinding as it may appear on the pictures. I am not sure what light distribution you will get with the U.S. license plate. You can use the less powerful 5-LED versions, as described above. Also you can try this 19-LED one or this 8-LED one from V-LEDs. I want to try the latter one. Enjoy!
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QUOTE (McLarrick @ Mar 31 2009, 06:31 PM)  A word of caution first:I checked with the Sylvania replacement guide for 2008 Santa Fe bulbs and it says that 6411 is used for the map light. However, I checked the online parts manual, and it shows 194 for the map lights on the 2008 U.S. models. The same is confirmed in this post on this forum, yet from Canada (I am not sure if there are difference between the U.S. and Canadian models or the car in reference is not a U.S. model). Also, I do not think that there are any differences in the interrior lighting in Santa Fe models build for different markets (however, there are definetly differences in head and tail lights). All information provideded here is based on the European 2.2 CRDi (diesel) model with automatic transmission and all-wheel drive. Before buying the bulbs, please refer to the owner's manual that came with your vehicle or the actual bulbs on your vehicle.grunt73, I think rico79 meant 6411 in his post (the same post that I mendioned above), at least I am not aware of 6414 festoon bulbs. So, if we are talking about using 6411 (41 mm) festoon bulbs instead of DE3175 (31 mm), then the general answer is "No, we can't use them interchangeably." However, the dome and cargo lights of Santa Fe use DE3423 or DE3425 (36 mm) bulbs. So with 36 mm bulbs, we are usually safe with +/-3 mm in length. We can try to relax this assumption to +/-5 mm, yet in this case we might need to bend the connectors slightly. I have used 6411 (41 mm) LED bulb for the dome light, instead of the stock DE3423 (36 mm) incandescent one. Actually, the variety of the small automotive lamp types may blow your mind: DE3423 is very similar to 6423 (actually, it is the one on the European models according to the Sylvania specs). All you have to remember that there are 29, 31, 36, and 41 mm festoon bulbs (with some sizes in between). So, now back to the main question: What do I have on my 2008 Santa Fe? Vanity Lights - 31 mm Festoon Bulb (DE3175):Currently I have a no-name Chinese 1W high-power LED bulb, very similar to this one from TunerDomes.com. (IMG: http://www.tunerdomes.com/images/uploads/Parts/DE3175_1W_sm.jpg) The light output is more than enough, many may found it too bright. Hint:To open the light, you will need a very (very-very) small screwdriver (the one which used for repair of whatches or eyeglasses). Then you will need a lot of skill to take the transperent lens out of the vanity light module. However, I want to try this 5000K one from V-LEDs. Why? Ladies may be scared by looking at their faces in blueish light (6000K-6500K of the regular LEDs). Note that V-LEDs' LED bulb is only 29 mm in length - hopefully, it will not fall out. The connector design in the vanity light is different from the one used in the dome and cargo lights: In the vanity and glove box lights, the bulb is held by its tips. However, with a set of pliers the problem - if it presents itself - can be solved. Glove Box Light - 36 mm Festoon Bulb (6423 or similar as described above):Currently I have a no-name Chinese 2W high-power LED bulb, very similar to this one from TunerDomes.com. (IMG: http://www.tunerdomes.com/images/uploads/Parts/6418_1w_sm.jpg) Note:The actual LED bulb is 37 mm in length - kind of too long for the connector (yet it fits). Consider finding slightly shorter bulb, maybe 33-35 mm. Front and Rear* (Above Rear Doors) Map Lights (194 Wedge Type Bulb):* It appears that some U.S. models do not have rear map lights - at least 2.7 L FWD MT, if the reference that I checked is correct. Like I said in my previous post, the best one is this 4 LED bulb from V-LEDs. The alternatives are this or this 5 LED bulbs, but the will produce less light output due to the problems that I described in my previous post. They can be also be used as license plate lights - see below. Dome and Cargo Lights - 36 mm Festoon Bulb (6423 or similar as described above):The best one is this 20 LED bulb from V-LEDs. It is 33 mm long and 24 mm wide. Despite smaller than the nominal 36 mm length, it fits perfectly well without any need to adjust the connectors. The main idea - you want it to be as big as possible, so the light is spread over the surface of the lens. With a 1-, 2-, or 4-LED bulb, you will have a very narrow illuminated area - not the entire interrior or the trunk compartment, yet a 2-LED 2W or 4-LED bulbs produce decent results for the cargo light. Previously, I used a 12-LED 41 mm festoon bulb, similar to this one. License Plate Lights (168 Wedge Type Bulb):Currently, I have a 9-LED bulb similar to this one - see the attachments. The idea is to have an even, wide light distribution over the license plate, not a narrow light beam. The pictures are taken without flash - so the light is not that blinding as it may appear on the pictures. I am not sure what light distribution you will get with the U.S. license plate. You can use the less powerful 5-LED versions, as described above. Also you can try this 19-LED one or this 8-LED one from V-LEDs. I want to try the latter one. Enjoy! Mclarrick, Thank you for the awesome information. Just what I needed.
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QUOTE (david-paul-1 @ Mar 29 2009, 06:26 PM)  The Santa Fe does NOT come with foot well lights so I had to tap into the overhead lighting system. Then I used the footwell lights wire to connect to my exterior lighting.
The exterior lights are installed under the body, inboard of the chrome bars. I made "L" brackets for each light, then I used double sided tape and then sprayed undercoating over the lights and wires. Of course I masked off the lenses before doing all of this.
Maybe the pics will give you somewhat of an idea how it all came out.
David <>< David - Why did you double-side tape and spray undercoating in there? And may I ask exactly what you used? I still have a fantasy of doing something in my wheel wells. Now interesting..... You created a situation to shoot light under those step bars and tied it to your interior light system. Something like that concept would work for my desire to have some semblance of exterior light remain on for a bit. Was it very difficult to tie into that? Not sure what I'd want to use - some type of gentle wash maybe.
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I'd like to get some brighter, whiter LED bulbs for the fog lights, map lights, interior light, and luggage compartment light but I'm getting confused with all the bulb numbers, heh. I have a Canadian 2009 Limited. The manual says CODE Part Wattage Socket Type Fog 27 PG13 Map 10 W2.1 x 9.5D Interior 10 S8.5/8.5 Luggage Comp. 10 S8.5/8.5 The Sylvania website says CODE Map 175
Dome light DE3175 DE3175LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp 7443LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Trunk/Cargo area DE3175 DE3175LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp 7443LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp It doesn't list the fog lights. And I'm not sure if that's accurate for Canada as they have the headlamps listed as H7 when in fact they're H11B in the Canadian models. Please excuse my ignorance and this might be an obvious question, but what can I use that will fit? If I read this post correctly, I think these will work in the fogs. But what about the higher wattage? Thanks!
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QUOTE (jaydee77ca @ Aug 27 2009, 07:35 PM)  I'd like to get some brighter, whiter LED bulbs for the fog lights, map lights, interior light, and luggage compartment light but I'm getting confused with all the bulb numbers, heh. I have a Canadian 2009 Limited. The manual says CODE Part Wattage Socket Type Fog 27 PG13 Map 10 W2.1 x 9.5D Interior 10 S8.5/8.5 Luggage Comp. 10 S8.5/8.5 The Sylvania website says CODE Map 175
Dome light DE3175 DE3175LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp 7443LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Trunk/Cargo area DE3175 DE3175LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp 7443LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp It doesn't list the fog lights. And I'm not sure if that's accurate for Canada as they have the headlamps listed as H7 when in fact they're H11B in the Canadian models. Please excuse my ignorance and this might be an obvious question, but what can I use that will fit? If I read this post correctly, I think these will work in the fogs. But what about the higher wattage? Thanks! My 2007 headlight bulbs are H7 but I believe the bulb numbers were changed after 07. I am using Sylvania Ultras in both my high and low beams. Love them. As far as the Fog Light numbers that you found, they will definitely work. There isn't much difference between 27 watts and 35 watts, so no worry there. David
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QUOTE (Meagain @ Aug 27 2009, 04:11 PM)  David - Why did you double-side tape and spray undercoating in there? And may I ask exactly what you used? I still have a fantasy of doing something in my wheel wells.
Now interesting..... You created a situation to shoot light under those step bars and tied it to your interior light system. Something like that concept would work for my desire to have some semblance of exterior light remain on for a bit. Was it very difficult to tie into that? Not sure what I'd want to use - some type of gentle wash maybe. First of all, if you could see all of this lighting, both interior and exterior, you would realize that all of it is a "gentle washing". Unfortunately, I do not have a professional photographer's camera, so it does not do justice to the lighting. Why did I use spray undercoating?. Strictly to protect the 3M "Gray" double sided tape from moisture. It will stick forever. I used 2 strings of LED lighting that I found on ebay for the underside. If I come across it, I will post it for you to see. The mod was relatively difficult because I had to tie into the upper interior lights and run wire down to the foot wells install foot well lights. From there, I was able to go from there to the underside of the vehicle. Since all of the lighting used are LEDs, the wattage, or amps are not a concern. I think that after I removed the plastic sill plates, covering the wire loom, there are rubber plugs that you can fish wire down to the lower side of the Santa Fe. It has been quite sometime since I did this mod, so my brain is a bit foggy. All I know for sure is that a great deal of patience and persistence were required. By the way, if you are actually considering wheel well lights, all I can say is RICEY! I believe most every one on this site will agree. David <><
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