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[fishmn]

I spent some time reading past postings first, to avoid re-asking a question that had been recently answered. Don't want to waste people's time. I did find some talk about cabin filters before there were aftermarkets available, and home-made units.

Cabin air filters: Available on the Net for $8 to $15 and above. I thought before ordering I'd ask if any of you have ordered online and gotten a cabin air filter so cheap/wrong size/some reason you wouldn't use it. Saving money is no good if you can't use it.

Oil filters: still surprised at the cartridge type. My '62 John Deere tractor had one. They're actually in stock locally from Fram. Thought I'd ask, as a friend looked at cross-sections of several oil filters years ago (spin-on type, of course) and said he'd never buy a Fram. On the other hand, I peeked in the box and saw "Made in Korea" on the cartridge filter and thought that might be a Korean filter from the company that supplies to Hyundai, so why not buy it? I'll wait in case there are any cautions from you people. Hope it's not a boo-boo to name a brand on this forum.

Oilpan bolt one-use washer. This is new to me. Do all of you buy new washers for every oil change??

Finally, I don't think I wanna buy a special oil filter wrench that'll tell me when I'm at about 19.8 foot-pounds torque on the oil cap. I bet you guys tighten it down until it feels tight?

Thanks for your expertise.

-Getting set for 0.25 inches of ice then a few inches of snow on top tommorow in MN

[david-paul-1]

I spent some time reading past postings first, to avoid re-asking a question that had been recently answered. Don't want to waste people's time. I did find some talk about cabin filters before there were aftermarkets available, and home-made units.

Cabin air filters: Available on the Net for $8 to $15 and above. I thought before ordering I'd ask if any of you have ordered online and gotten a cabin air filter so cheap/wrong size/some reason you wouldn't use it. Saving money is no good if you can't use it.

Oil filters: still surprised at the cartridge type. My '62 John Deere tractor had one. They're actually in stock locally from Fram. Thought I'd ask, as a friend looked at cross-sections of several oil filters years ago (spin-on type, of course) and said he'd never buy a Fram. On the other hand, I peeked in the box and saw "Made in Korea" on the cartridge filter and thought that might be a Korean filter from the company that supplies to Hyundai, so why not buy it? I'll wait in case there are any cautions from you people. Hope it's not a boo-boo to name a brand on this forum.

Oilpan bolt one-use washer. This is new to me. Do all of you buy new washers for every oil change??

Finally, I don't think I wanna buy a special oil filter wrench that'll tell me when I'm at about 19.8 foot-pounds torque on the oil cap. I bet you guys tighten it down until it feels tight?

Thanks for your expertise.

-Getting set for 0.25 inches of ice then a few inches of snow on top tommorow in MN

fishmn,

First of all I need your address. Perhaps you will allow me to send some of my 80+ degree air to you, in order to offset some of that Ice and Snow.

Now, down to the business at hand.

The cartridge filter you found with the name "Fram", probably Walmart, is in fact the same filter used by Hyundai. Go ahead and buy it.

As far as the replaceable aluminum crush washers are concerned, replace it with a new one. It is a safe and cheap way to guarantee no leaks. The old one, if reused, may not leak, but whe take the chance?

If you buy the aluminum crush washer from the dealer, they charge far more than if you go to your friendly hardware story, such as Ace, True Value, etc.. They are very cheap.

Of course, you will have to take your old one with you but then you can buy several. Just make sure they are the same thickness and ALUMINUM.

Now about the screw on cap of the oil filter resovoir. No wrench is needed. If it is too tight for you to remove, just get a strip of rubber or something like that (a piece of an old inner tube works well) and remove it by hand.

When replacing, you just hand tighten, but during that process, there will be a point where you will feel some resistance. It is not tight at that point as you are just feeling resistance from the new washer seating itself. Grunt just a bit more and you will feel it give and turn down a bit more before meeting additional resistance. You are now done.

Oh yes, one more thing. Just in case I cannot get that warm air to you in time, get your ice scraper and snow shovel ready. An energy bar works well for those. If you are using a snow blower, gasoline and half of an energy bar will do. One piece of advice however is, do not put the energy bar in the snow blower.

David <><

[fishmn]

Thank you, David, for the knowledgeable reply. I hadn't seen the phrase "crush washer" before, but it's the perfect description of its purpose. You're right, why take a chance when one can inexpensively buy new a few new ones.

The 14 year-old snowblower is dying, so I'm drawing up schematics to be the first kid with an Azera-mounted hydraulic 8-foot snow blade (with 6-way tilt, of course) on my block. That extra weight up front should really improve traction on a front wheel drive.

[david-paul-1]

Thank you, David, for the knowledgeable reply. I hadn't seen the phrase "crush washer" before, but it's the perfect description of its purpose. You're right, why take a chance when one can inexpensively buy new a few new ones.

The 14 year-old snowblower is dying, so I'm drawing up schematics to be the first kid with an Azera-mounted hydraulic 8-foot snow blade (with 6-way tilt, of course) on my block. That extra weight up front should really improve traction on a front wheel drive.

When the Azera/snow blade modification is finished, you really have to SHOW it to us.

It sounds like a show you can take on the road. (tongue in cheek) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

David <><

[rodneya332]

I have ordered cabin filters from E-Bay
It's a 24517 cabin filter, bought through Complete Filtration Systems.
I had no trouble with them; prompt delivery. They're about $23.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Various-Hyu...p4506.m20.l1116


I also bought 14mm aluminum crush washers through Eaton Auto Parts.
The washer fit on Honda and Hyundai. It's a good solid washer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-OIL-DRAI...sspagenameZWDVW

Good luck

[Gamle-ged]

Here's a compilation of a couple of old posts:

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I went to Lowes today and bought a 3M "Filtrete" Maximum allergen reduction filter, "performance rating" of 1700, for about $20. It's a 24" x 24" size, not quite 1" thick, and when cut down should yield 4 Azera-sized filters (with a little duct tape to close the cut edges).

I cut a section out of the "Filtrete" filter, leaving enough behind for three more Azera filters. I measured by placing a dirty Azera filter over one corner of the Filtrete, marked with a Magic Marker pen, cut with serrated-blade scissors and duct-taped the two cut edges, pulled out the Azera filter carrier from behind the glovebox and swapped new clean for old dirty, no problems.

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I've done this twice, so far, and the first of the home-made filters I pulled out after its 10k mile duty was about as disgustingly dirty as the last of the OEM filters I'd before used, indicating that the cut-down 3M filter was doing a fine job, for a little over $5 total (considering gasoline and duct tape costs). My labor is priceless, which is to say, I'm retired...

[fishmn]

I received cabin air filters and thought I'd check the one that came in the car (and also ensure the new ones are correct). After half an hour the filter holder still wasn't out. I pressed the tabs toward each other as it says in the forum somewhere. Squeezing the tabs evidently didn't lift the 4 retaining tabs enuff to let the holder slide out. I imagine there's a lip around the outer unit to "lock" the retaining tabs? It didn't look like it would be easy to slip any tool I have sitting around in to raise the tabs from the side. I decided not to try that today, as pressure from my fingers cracked two of the squeeze tabs (didn't break off, just cracked at the thinnest point in the squeeze tab so it now wants to pinch your finger when you squeeze it.

After cussing under my breath that a five minute procedure to save $40 or whatever could potentially turn into one of those deals where I break tabs off and spend MORE money, I gave it up for today.

Has anyone had this happen? I'm wondering if the fact that it was 35 degrees, and the heat was gone from the car do to the passenger door being open, was the reason for the problem. Maybe the plastic doesn't flex properly below room temperature...but I kinda figured with plastics technology, that would no longer be a problem.

If anyone has had to cobble a tool to get the filter carrier out without breaking anything, I'd like to hear. I'm thinking something like a narrow-blade screwdrive bent sideways in a vise to 90 degrees.

I came inside, pretty frozen without gloves on and a 20 mph wind blowing while I worked on it, and moaned and groaned to her. She said, "Be thankful you have a home and a car you CAN work on." And I thought, Wives!! I WANT to pi$$ and moan!! But I said, "Yes, Dear."

-30 years in June

[Gamle-ged]

Haven't had a problem and I've replaced the filter 3 times so far, but only in Florida, so... well, you know... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif)