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New 2017 Azera (base) with acceleration questions and more

Hi All,
So glad I found this forum! I got my black 2017 Azera base model and have some questions for all you pros out there.

1.I love driving it, but, the car feels like it is skipping first and second gear and going right to 3rd gear. The low end torque feels nonexistent. I knew the engine and 6 speed digital electronic transmission was on the smooth side, but, I'm really missing the low-end power. Does anyone have any suggestions on anything I can do to help myself without voiding the warranty or lease? Tried some higher octane fuel but that didn't do much. Am I simply stuck or would a cold air intake help a bit and not void the warranty or lease?

2. I'm a young guy but swear I can't see that well at night in the Azera base model. The fog lights help, but, only so much. In the base model, the main headlights are not HID correct? They are regular halogens as far as I know and I've read, right? Does anyone know the actual type and a good replacement that will be brighter (not necessarily throw a longer light, just add some whiter brightness)? Is this a difficult replacement or can I just pop these in with moderate technical experience?
I know the fog lights are regular as well and not looking to change them, as much as I wish I could to LED's like the limited has...unless that really helps?

3. I realize I will likely get laughed at for asking, but, any thoughts on a performance chip to help regulate fuel to air ratio? Or should I save my $150 bucks and not get laughed at?

More questions to come, but wanted to introduce myself, say hi and hopefully get some help!

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welcome to the forum estreeter.

1- i feel the same pain as you with this car, knowing the almost 300hp and 250ish ftlbs of torque it has. But on the other hand, this is a heavy car. It needs you too step on the gas a little bit more to feel the power. I don't think theres anything we could do about this other than just stepping on it.

2- i changed my bulbs to LED bulbs from xenondepot. A lot better than the halogen in terms of output. Colorwise it obviously pure led white which looks great. But i want more output and longer throw so i'm about to order regular HID kit. I tried the kit from theretrofit sourse but one of the ballast died in one week so i returned it. I only had good luck with the xenondepot kits so far. Also despite every single website stating that my car has H7 bulbs for the lowbeams, it has H11. You should check in your car since its a 2017 and see if that applies.

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I know what you mean. Despite the fact that my 2014 Azera gets to 60MPH in 6.2 seconds, it doesn't feel as fast as previous cars I've owned that were much slower. For instance, I remember feeling like my 1987 Galant could really fly, and it had a 0-60 of 11.2 seconds. I had to be careful to not spin the tires when I took off quickly.

I think several factors play into this:

1. A very quiet car takes away from the subjective feeling of power that comes from hearing the sound of the engine revving.

2. The smoother the transmission shifts, and the more gears it has, the less we feel the pulses of power as it shifts or downshifts.

3. A car that has a lot of acceleration off-the-line and less afterwards will feel faster than one that spreads the power more linearly over the full range of speed, like the Azera.

4. Traction control prevents wheelspin, so we never get that subjective feeling of power that comes from hearing the tires squeal.

5. Cars that raise up upon acceleration due to the torque of the powertrain give the feeling that they are accelerating faster. The Azera does a good job of isolating powertrain torque.

What I do notice is that I almost never have to "floor it" with the Azera to merge into fast traffic because even though it doesn't feel like... it is fast!

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Hi Saamlee,

I checked the manual the 2017 base model and it says H7 HID and LED for the limited. Not sure how this is possible though as everywhere else I've looked says it is halogen. The bulbs are tough to get to and don't want to take them out unless I have a fit replacement in hand, ya know? Is it possible they changed things up for the 2017 model?
So hard to find good info on this particular trim and year.
Thanks for your help!!
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If your Azera is not Limited, it should have halogen bulbs. But i would recommend checking the bulb visually, is fairly easy just twist the dust cover and its right there. I found out its easiest to work on the lights if yoou pull the lamp housing out. Its easy job, it probably takes only five minutes to take them apart and the front bumper. That way you have much better working position and it easier to map the wires if you chose to go HID. I ordered the hid kit and its arriving friday so probably i'll be installing it that night. I'll show you photos of the aftermath.

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Hey SaamLee,
Well, I'm speechless. I've seen you post this info about the lights in a bunch of places (including responding to me) and always kept it in mind. So, today when I went to a new auto parts store, I purchased what Car and Driver reported were really good Sylvania Halogen upgraded bulbs. They were around $65 for the 2 H7 bulbs. But, I said to myself, "I think this guy maybe right, he seems to know what he's talking about."
So, I also bought one H11 Sylvania SilverStar Ultra bulb just in case. Obviously, I should have checked the lights first, but, I was in a rush and just did things this way. When I got home and took off the bulb safety cap (the cap broke off when I gently twisted it off my brand new 2017 Azera base...will have to take that back to be replaced) what did I find? Just as you said...an H11 bulb! Interesting, it is made by Sylvania and I'm wondering if I purchased the same bulb to replace what the factory uses. Anyone know what actual model of Sylvania bulb Hyundai uses in their H11 models?
Sammlee, I'm sitting here and realizing I didn't look to see if the H11's were just H11's or H11B's...do you happen to know? I was going to order them online and wanted to get them in ASAP.
I think the Highbeam/Daytime running lights are still the H7s, would you agree?
I wish you luck on the HID install! That sounds awesome and I'm excited to see the results!!! Where did you order the kit from?
Thanks again for all of your help and guidance! Much appreciated my friend!
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Estreeter, i read somewhere that all the Hyundais with H11 bulbs are H11B. I bought the kit from xenondepot. I already had a set of H11B from the retrofit source and a set of regular H11 coming with the kit from xenondepot. Both very high quality bulbs. I'll try to see which one looks best.
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Hey Saam,
I replaced one of the low-beam halogens with a sylvania/osram silver stat ultra-bright something or other. As it turns out, the low beams on the base model are the H11 just as you said. On the 2017 base, they aren't H11b's, just H11 so replacing one bulb meant working my hands in a tight spot, but, overall, just turning the base to the left, popping it out, new one in, and turning it back to the right.
What I have noticed is that the new bulb is not aimed correctly despite being in the same exact spot. It's strange. The new bulb is a more white, but, not any brighter or longer throw (which I wasn't expecting considering the bulb doesn't dictate the throw as much as the other parts of the light assembly).
But, I see that I'm not going to get the results I need with halogens...I need more lumens. And this really isn't for appearance, it's so I can see well at night, ya know?
The fog lights do help me see better at night. They are aimed very well I must say. But, they use the same wattage as the low beams and really put a strain on the electric. The engine even revs higher in park if the fog lights are on.
So, I was wondering how you did with the HID kit? Would you recommend? Did you have to take off the bumper to do it?
I'm thinking HID for the low-beams and LED for the fog lights (that will keep the wattage down). What do you think of that idea? Are the fog lights hard to replace? They look like they are pretty easy to get to if on a small ramp maybe?
Look forward to hearing from you about this and anyone else who can't see at night with their Azera! HA!
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Estreeter, i installed Xenondepots hid kit in my azera. Works perfectly fine without relay harness, but i installed capacitors just in case. No flickering at all and none of the bulbs ever failed to ignite. Light output is no match with halogens, throw is great and visibility is ten times better. I took out the bumper and the headlight housing because i didn't want to damage the hid bulbs while installing them on the blind, plus is way more easier to lock them in place since the new hid rubber grommets are harder to compress. Is really easy process, if you know what you are doing it only takes one hour to install everything. I would like to put some LEDs for the foglights and match the hid color. Sometimes LED are nt that bright, so you could even put hid in their too. Fog light access is really easy, just take out the bumper and disconnect the wiring to the bulbs. I think they were H7 but i'll check again.
I'll try to take a photo of the car tonight and show you the light output witht eh hids.

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