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Welcome to the forum, Phu. 15's should fit just fine. Isn't the 15" an introductory wheel for the base model E?

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I'm trying to find 15" hubcentric steel wheels for our car.

For those of you who bought/own 195/65R15 tires and steel wheels, could you tell me what wheels you have and whether they're hubcentric or not?

Both 1010tires and Canadian Tire list part# X45475 as a 15" hubcentric wheel that will fit our car. Tirerack shows a wheel that will work but won't give me the wheel name.

Costco, unfortunately, doesn't list any 15" wheels for our car in their steel wheel guide. The manager I spoke to yesterday guessed the hubcentrics for the Elantra Touring might fit (X45114 or X40881) but since no 15" wheels are listed in their guide he recommended I talk to my dealer before buying.

The dealer, of course, told me Costco is the devil and to never go back there. They also wouldn't tell me what wheel part# is the 15" hubcentric, and just kept trying to "get me in to talk". Riiiight...

Any help would be appreciated!

Edit: to add to the confusion, the Kia Forte (same body as our car?) lists a 15" tire and says the X45114 will fit. But it says the X45475 is only a universal fit (which I don't want).


Just a quick update to make people laugh (or groan). I was at my dealer the other day to get some work done on the car and I went and spoke to the parts department in person.

They pulled out the same steel wheel guide Costco uses (apaprently put together by a third party company) and declared that since no 15" wheel is listed, I should be careful since downsizing "might have warranty implications."

Based on this, they again could not recommend any 15" steel wheels for the Elantra GT and said my safest bet is to buy 16" from them. They also said that in winter tires, the difference between 15" and 16" is almost nothing (other than price).

I played dumb and asked why so many people would get 15" tires/wheels just to save a bit of money if there are possible warranty issues and no difference in performance, but they just shrugged their shoulders.

So! Costco won't help, my dealer won't help, and I have to conclude there's no easy way to find out if any 15" hubcentric wheels exist for our car. 15" tires/wheels DO fit, since there are 15" universals as many have pointed out.

Has anyone else's dealer ever mentioned the warranty thing? I think the warranty implication line my dealer gave me was a crock, but I haven't read the fine print yet.
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He's using that old "warranty scare tactic" to fatten his wallet and slim yours. I never make a withdrawal from the Hip National Bank at the dealer except for filters for wife's car, etc.

I get more bang for my buck just about anywhere else. But not at the dealer. He got his when I bought the car. Now I spread my good cheer around to other auto stores, websites.

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I was planning to use 195 55 15 winter tires that I have from my old vehicle. I know this is about a 5.8% difference in diameter but I thought the only harm would be the speedometer being off when driving.

I suppose if the speedometer reads faster than what I am actually driving over the course of the entire winter my odometer might read a little higher than actual?

Anyone know of any other problem with me using 195 55 15 tires?

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I was planning to use 195 55 15 winter tires that I have from my old vehicle. I know this is about a 5.8% difference in diameter but I thought the only harm would be the speedometer being off when driving.

I suppose if the speedometer reads faster than what I am actually driving over the course of the entire winter my odometer might read a little higher than actual?

Anyone know of any other problem with me using 195 55 15 tires?
ABS and Stability control systems might be degraded.
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Welcome to the forum, Phu. 15's should fit just fine. Isn't the 15" an introductory wheel for the base model E?
Not sure what the model E is. I'm in Canada, so models maybe vary by options. That's what it seems like from my research so far.

For the Elantra GT, according to Hyundai Canada official website.

Models listed by price.

GL = 16 inch steel wheels
GLS = 16 alloys
SE = 17 alloys

Now this makes me wonder why hyundai wouldn't use 15" steel wheels on the GL base model if they fit. It is the base model after all.

I know the Elantra sedan uses 15" for the base model. However, I'm not sure if the rotor and calliper size is bigger on the GT or not. I don't want to buy brand new tires and steel wheels (or rims), and then they don't fit due to clearance issues.
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He's using that old "warranty scare tactic" to fatten his wallet and slim yours. I never make a withdrawal from the Hip National Bank at the dealer except for filters for wife's car, etc.

I get more bang for my buck just about anywhere else. But not at the dealer. He got his when I bought the car. Now I spread my good cheer around to other auto stores, websites.
Yeah you're definitely right. Earlier today I confirmed with the dealership manager that putting 15" tires/wheels on our car is fine and won't void the warranty.

Tirerack did confirm the 15" steel wheel they sell for our car is hubcentric, so I'll either order from them and drive down to the border to pick everything up, or just buy 16" tires/wheels from my local Costco. Decisions decisions!


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I was planning to use 195 55 15 winter tires that I have from my old vehicle. I know this is about a 5.8% difference in diameter but I thought the only harm would be the speedometer being off when driving.

I suppose if the speedometer reads faster than what I am actually driving over the course of the entire winter my odometer might read a little higher than actual?

Anyone know of any other problem with me using 195 55 15 tires?
Xsolara is right, 5.8% is likely too different from the diameter of the stock tire size. Check out the links on undersizing tires in my original post to this thread.

This link also has more information:

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Not sure what the model E is. I'm in Canada, so models maybe vary by options. That's what it seems like from my research so far.

For the Elantra GT, according to Hyundai Canada official website.

Models listed by price.

GL = 16 inch steel wheels
GLS = 16 alloys
SE = 17 alloys

Now this makes me wonder why hyundai wouldn't use 15" steel wheels on the GL base model if they fit. It is the base model after all.

I know the Elantra sedan uses 15" for the base model. However, I'm not sure if the rotor and calliper size is bigger on the GT or not. I don't want to buy brand new tires and steel wheels (or rims), and then they don't fit due to clearance issues.
Don't be scared off by Hyundai and my posts! 15" tires and wheels definitely fit on our car, there are plenty of people who use them. Months ago, I asked my dealer why Hyundai chose 16" as the base for the Elantra GT. They told me it's because the GT is a "premium" vehicle over the Elantra sedan; even the base model GT GL comes with features the lower trim sedan does not have.
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Don't be scared off by Hyundai and my posts! 15" tires and wheels definitely fit on our car, there are plenty of people who use them. Months ago, I asked my dealer why Hyundai chose 16" as the base for the Elantra GT. They told me it's because the GT is a "premium" vehicle over the Elantra sedan; even the base model GT GL comes with features the lower trim sedan does not have.
Ok, sounds good. I just wanted to be sure. I've decided I am going to buy the elantra GT. just a matter of which dealership is going to give me the best deal.
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I'm sorry, I'm so used to referring to the Elantra as an "E." I could've worded that a bit better. Should have said "......introductory wheel for the base model Elantra." LOL "Senior brain fart!"

Don't worry so much about the speedometer. Not like you're gonna go speeding or hot-rodding on a snow/ice laden highway. But I suppose it's possible. You dudes up North have learned the skills it takes to navigate in that stuff. Folks down here don't have a clue. When it snows, there's a big backlog at the body shops.

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I bought slightly used set of 4 winter tires last winter already mounted on rims from Kijiji (also check Craigslist), they were off a '11 Elantra sedan. Definitely a cheaper way to buy I found... even if I did replace 2 of the tires immediately.
Anyway, I went from the stock OEM 17" to 195/65/15 winter tires and I can say that the difference from the stock tires was totally worth it on snow and winter coated streets. The stock 17" Hankooks were basically dangerous IMO in winter conditions. Huge confidence boost changing over mid-winter.
I did notice that the GT handled noticably different on the winter tires... a difference in the sidewall profile from 45 to 65 series.

Any winter tire is better than the OEM Hankooks in snow and slippery surfaces. Even just cold temps (under 7C) winter tires grip better on cold pavement.

Check Tirerack.com for comparison if buying the best for your local conditions is important. They don't cover every tire made though and there are other good choices out there. The internet reviews can be helpful to decide.

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