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Wow. Car has been at the local Hyundai dealer since the end of April. Was told several weeks back "the engine is due to arrive on June 14th, should be ready a few days after that". Called today and "engines haven't shipped from Korea yet, August 9th is the earliest you will have your vehicle back". Great. Guessing we'll actually get the vehicle back sometime in the fall. This will be my last Hyundai.
It took them 86 days from when Hyundai approved my claim to when I picked my car up. Total cost $7600 on a car that is worth $5600 at best. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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That is pretty awesome that they honored the warranty with over 120k on the clock. How did you accomplish that?

I had an Explorer whose A/C pretty much disintegrated right at 35,984 miles (3 year/36 month warranty) on a 116 degree day here in AZ, at 4 in the afternoon. Limped straight to dealer who was thankfully only a few miles away and made sure they documented the milage before taking the vehicle into service. It was, if I remember correctly, a $4,000+ repair. They didn't give me a problem about the warranty but I got the distinct impression that if there was another 20 miles on the odo I would have been up the creek.



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Spammed about 10 threads on Hyundai's corporate Facebook posts plus sent them a message with a sob story of how I am a single father, that was my only car, I can't afford to pay the repair bill nor purchase a new vehicle. That got a CM to call me and have them take a second look at it. I think it was the fact of how my engine looked that got them to cover it. I posted pictures of it in another post on this thread for you all to look at. My dealer replaced my outer CV boots at like 99,820 miles and the tech didn't document my mileage before they delivered the car to me so they were going to get stuck with the bill. Service manager called asking me to do him a solid and send them pictures. I live far from my dealer and he was lucky I was still under 100k and sent the pics and they got reimbursed for the work. Because of that they owed me a solid and went to bat for me about this situation. They also did a couple of other things for me that is in my other post too. Good luck all of you and I hope that Hyundai gives you all the same perimeters as us about this issue. I see a lot of you wanting to jump ship because of this and it is funny that because of this I am sticking with Hyundai. They could of easily just pushed me to the side and said tough luck but they didn't and spent more money to repair my car than it is worth. That is customer service in my book and will purchase another Hyundai just cause of that.
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There are Hyundai dealers on the web selling long blocks for 3100, at least listed at 3100, I doubt they could get one if you ordered it.

It's neither here nor there but the 7600 is most certainly for accounting purposes only, the engine didn't cost Hyundai that much to produce even with labor added on top.

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havent read all pages on this thread, but wanted to chime in nonetheless. Received the letter about a week or 2 ago, basically it states they are aware of the problem and are or will come up with an inspection?? in the mean time if you hear a knocking contact the dealer asap. Well i dont have any sort of knocking noise atm so im just waiting on it for now.... also have 2 other smaller ones to take care of (ATM Click one and another one i forget at the moment) current mileage is about 66000kms, oil change due in about 3K so ill get the other smaller ones taken care of then...
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Well if your issue was car stalling, I don't see anything in your list that would remedy that , not sure what "oil flow control" is but if the engine stalled owing to lack of lubrication then you have a whole different issue.
I don't know what they did but when everything was said and done it cost me over $500.


I think the oil control flow valve allows oil to get to the piston bearing. Since it broke I guess per recall it needed to be replaced. Because I have experience all of the symptoms of the recall. So I don't know if they found something else and fixed it and i'm still waiting on the effects of the recall to take over or they fixed what the recall was for, and everything is ok. On top of that my VIN is effected by the recall.
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There are Hyundai dealers on the web selling long blocks for 3100, at least listed at 3100, I doubt they could get one if you ordered it.

It's neither here nor there but the 7600 is most certainly for accounting purposes only, the engine didn't cost Hyundai that much to produce even with labor added on top.
For sure. You can buy a new GM V8 350cid long block for $1600 (twice the number of pistons, rods etc).

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/n...make/chevrolet

I can't imagine a 4 cyl theta II long block costing more than $1000 to manufacture at the factory. I read that in the 1950's it cost Chevy $8 more to manufacture a V8 over a straight 6 but they charged the buyer $150 more.
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World of difference between those old cast iron block and heads V8 , for sure those 350 blocks can be modified to pump out a lot of ponies but the standard long block would be considered by many very basic compared to a modern high output turbo charged 4 banger with aluminum block and heads, forged pistons and connecting rods, over head cam, balance shafts and so on.
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World of difference between those old cast iron block and heads V8 , for sure those 350 blocks can be modified to pump out a lot of ponies but the standard long block would be considered by many very basic compared to a modern high output turbo charged 4 banger with aluminum block and heads, forged pistons and connecting rods, over head cam, balance shafts and so on.
Sure, I realize the SBC is a 1954 dinosaur design wise, but GM can cast and machine the 8 cyl block & 2 heads (not one) 8 pistons and rods (not 4) only one camshaft (but still 16 valves, springs etc) and sell it to Summit at a profit who sells it to the public for $1599 and still makes a profit?

The $7800 quoted by the dealer looks way overinflated.
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FWIW I was referring to your comment about "I can't imagine a 4 cyl theta II long block costing more than $1000 to manufacture at the factory" and pointing out that both the material cost and the process cost is probably a lot higher than that of the GM V8.

Getting at true unburdened cost numbers is a whole different animal, but I don't think it's that far fetched for the Theta II long block to cost in excess of $1000.
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FWIW I was referring to your comment about "I can't imagine a 4 cyl theta II long block costing more than $1000 to manufacture at the factory" and pointing out that both the material cost and the process cost is probably a lot higher than that of the GM V8.

Getting at true unburdened cost numbers is a whole different animal, but I don't think it's that far fetched for the Theta II long block to cost in excess of $1000.
Agreed that the cost of materials is higher (aluminum vs cast iron) but a CNC machine tool doesn't know if it is machining a piston for a Rolls Royce or a Yugo. When you strip away the auxiliary stuff like CVVT valves, GDI fuel system etc you basically have a DOHC 4 banger long block.

The cost out the factory door might be more than $1000, but I doubt it would be much more. If the "Economy of Scale" applies here, I suspect that Hyundai/Kia will certainly be getting the volume demand for Theta II long blocks!

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