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Top likes/dislikes 2017 Santa Fe SPORT?

I'm looking at 3 possible new cars, and found some interesting things on the other forums, so I thought I'd ask here too.

What are your top likes/dislikes about your 2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport? I'm looking at the SFS AWD 2.0 Turbo w/Ultimate, BTW.

The "competition":
2016 Ford Edge AWD Titanium w/Ecoboost 4 cylinder, 302A Pkg, Driver's Pkg, Cold Weather Pkg.
2017 Kia Sorento SXL V6 AWD

I have test driven only the Ford and Hyundai (the Kia dealers in area don't have any 2017 Sorento SXL yet. I did test drive the 2016 Sorento SXL Turbo, but that's discontinued).

I know some of the differences, but I'm looking for things from people who actually own said vehicle. As an example, some of people who own the Sorento listed some dislikes of stuff that I wasn't aware of (you don't see these on spec sheets, etc.) it's more of a list of things that, as you drive it around, and use the vehicle, you notice "little" things that can make a difference.

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You don't mention the Tech package with all the newfangled driving assists. IMO, the package is VERY reasonably priced for what it provides to assist in ease of driving and enhanced safety. Furthermore, as more vehicles come equipped with such "goodies" in the future, your SFS's eventual resale value will be substantially higher if you have them than if you don't.

(I'm looking at the same vehicle (with Tech and without AWD) for my wife. I'll be interested in the responses your inquiry draws.)
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The only thing that bugs me is I wish I had the power of sport mode without the increased steering effort. (oh, I wish the headlights were bi-xenon and not xenon low and halogen high beam). Other than that, it's a fantastic vehicle. Just did a 1500+ mile road trip and averaged over 26 mpg driving 75+.

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Have you priced the Ford ? We looked at one for my wife back in 2014. With what she wanted some $46K. Got hers with AWD, Turbo and Tech package for some $4K less or so. Hers came with HID as part of the Turbo package.
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We went with the 2017 SF Sport, 2.0T, AWD, Premium Package. The Ultimate had too many things we didn't want. Yes they are nice to have but we didn't want to pay for stuff we didn't want. We also looked a the Ford Edge and the Kia(s). I need to state that we have a 2010 Santa Fe and love it.

The Edge felt big to me on the test drive. Not that I couldn't have gotten accustomed to it... We didn't care for the bump in the center of the dash. The infotainment system really looked great but Android Auto was an 'I think they are going to do an update in the fall'. I didn't want to get into a system where there was a possibility the company would stop enhancing the product. We didn't like that there was little storage in / on the console compared to the 2010 SF and the 2017 SFS. This is going to sound picky - I didn't like the sound of the turn signal. I'm not trying to slam Fords. I have owned quite a few and am in the process of selling a 1998 Explorer that we purchased new.

Regarding the storage in the 2017 SFS, we liked it best. I picked up a pair of 3' USB cables from Amazon and a 4.8A charger. The charger is plugged into one of the outlets in the little well in front of the shifter. I keep the USB cables their too. It is easy to plug in my phone for AA and slip it into the well too. We keep our EZPass toll transponder in the storage space on top of the dash (where the bump was on the Edge).

We visited a few Kia dealers before we found one we liked. It was about 30 miles past the closest dealer. The vehicles were ok, but we had seen the Santa Fe's first. We did notice that part of the dash on the Kia was identical to the Santa Fe. I can't recall if the Kias were 2016 or 12017 models. One of the reasons we cross Kia off of the list was the dealers. The first one we visited to get a brochure and look at some dashboards (early in the process) said we needed have our information put into the computer. I was OK with giving them some information until the sales rep asked me to sign a privacy document. I had been slowly becoming irritated with the question - for a stinking brochure and a look at the cars. At that point I stopped the rep and firmly requested they remove my information from their system. He had to get his manager to remove my information. At one point the manager made a comment about 'you need to do this to buy a car in New Jersey'. Yep, old guy here, grey hair and all, bought my first car in NJ in 1969. Later that same day we visited another Kia dealer. Big sale going on! Regional people at tables! LOUD music everywhere to drum up excitement and make you want to get out of there as fast as possible. Everybody busy! I think it was the regional manager that tracked someone down to get me a key to look inside one of the vehicles on the lot. We weren't that impressed with the dash and interior. The next weekend we had a nice drive to another Kia dealer about 40 miles away, found a nice sales rep that was willing to chat with us, explain the features, etc. The Kias were nice, but not the Santa Fe Sport.

We bought the 2017 from a different dealer from where we bought the 2010 Santa Fe for several reasons. Our original dealer (2010) has installed Low Jack on all of their vehicles and didn't seem to want to find us a vehicle. We stopped their twice and he never called back. I know he really remembers us from the 2010 purchase - he started with his four square sales technique and I told him he needed to find another way to present his numbers. That resulting in him making a trip to his managers office. (Four Square car sales technique - look it up...)

On a whim one day we stopped into another Hyundai dealer to get a brochure and look at some dash boards, again this was early in the process. One of their sales reps spoke with us briefly saying he was currently with a customer but asked what he could do to help us. We told him why we were there and he gave us a key and a vehicle to test drive - no paperwork or identity information changed hands - He just gave us the key and the car. We later had a chance to talk with the rep over several visits and decided which vehicle and options we wanted. He found the car for us at another dealership and worked a trade.

We liked the bells and whistles on the Santa Fe Sport. We're having fun with the Android Auto. The storage is great - the armrest, cup holders, well in front of the shifter, door pockets, etc. The back up camera is nice but I think most vehicles with screens have it too. I find I am using it frequently.

I'm surprised how often we use the fob to open the back hatch / door. I have to remind myself that there is a switch there that I can press with my fingers. Just standing behind vehicle to open the door has been useful too.

Very important - we had the dealer install a remote start function. We have it on the 2010 SF and my wife wanted it on the 2017. The best part - it uses the existing fob on the 2017! Our 2010 SF has a separate fob for the remote start. Blue Link is nice but we didn't want to have to rent the remote start on a yearly basis and will probably not renew once the trial period is over.

Someone here pointed out that the power mirrors will allow you to see how close you are to the curb - yep, they do.

If I had to pick something I don't like... It would be that I cannot see the hood and the where the front of the car ends. I'm still adjusting the seat to see where I'm comfortable.

The Kia was ok. The Ford Edge seemed big and pricey.

Drive them all and go with what you like and can afford.

Best of luck with your new vehicle!
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You don't mention the Tech package with all the newfangled driving assists. IMO, the package is VERY reasonably priced for what it provides to assist in ease of driving and enhanced safwry.
I second this. I just got an ultimate with the tech package, and it's absolutely worth the extra 1500. The adaptive cruise control with full stop/start is amazing, and the bending headlights and auto hold brake are very nice as well.
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We were just looking at those three and Hyundai has a huge incentive advantage over Ford and Kia (though Kia has more than Ford).

Even if you're not a previous Hyundai owner (worth $750), you can get $2,250 or so off - $3,250 if you sign up for Uber (just get your driver ID from Uber support).
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You don't mention the Tech package with all the newfangled driving assists. IMO, the package is VERY reasonably priced for what it provides to assist in ease of driving and enhanced safety. Furthermore, as more vehicles come equipped with such "goodies" in the future, your SFS's eventual resale value will be substantially higher if you have them than if you don't.

(I'm looking at the same vehicle (with Tech and without AWD) for my wife. I'll be interested in the responses your inquiry draws.)
Oh yes, I should've mentioned that. all the vehicles I'm looking at are fully loaded. So for the SFS, it's AWD, 2.0 Turbo Ultimate w/tech package.

I did test drive one without the tech package. I felt it rode very smooth and quiet, but my sound meter was off because the sales guy was chatterboxing away. Another test drive this Saturday without sales guy.

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Have you priced the Ford ? We looked at one for my wife back in 2014. With what she wanted some $46K. Got hers with AWD, Turbo and Tech package for some $4K less or so. Hers came with HID as part of the Turbo package.
Yeah, MSRP:

Ford (with what i want): $45,500
Hyundai: $40,875
Kia: $46,115

So they're all "around" the same price. Obviously I'd prefer to get them all at a 10% discount, but we'll see. First, comes comfort/ride quality/noise, features, etc., then price (for me anyway).

I'll post my spreadsheet when I'm done with my test drives (yes, being OCD this time).

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We were just looking at those three and Hyundai has a huge incentive advantage over Ford and Kia (though Kia has more than Ford).

Even if you're not a previous Hyundai owner (worth $750), you can get $2,250 or so off - $3,250 if you sign up for Uber (just get your driver ID from Uber support).
Yeah, no Uber in our area. Local politicians won't allow it. Although I'll check it out anyway, as an extra $1,000 off is a big help, IMO.

Truecar lists (lowest price) as follows:
Ford - MSRP 44,950 (this is from Truecar), "Invoice" - $43,887, "truecar"-$43,062 and lowest - $40,625
Hyundai - MSRP $40,875, Invoice - $38,928, Truecar - $38,128, and lowest - $36,828
Kia - MSRP $46,595, Invoice - $44,216, Truecar $43,166, and lowest - $42,450

At least for our area. The Kia # is probably a bit off because the 2017 Sorento SXL v6 AWD has been backordered here until just now (released in May of 2017 I believe). But we'll see.

Price is a factory, but secondary for me.

Plan on using the "fightingchance" method and we'll see how that goes.
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