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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
With the complete rebuild of the SF due in Sept of 2011 I would like to ask the question to all owners;

"What do you want to see changed in the new generation 2012 version?"

Personally I would like to see;

- complete new body style
- complete new suspension incl tires, springs & shocks. To eliminate the harsh ride over road seams,tracks and potholes
- lower driving position
- better distinction between models. Currently can not tell other than chrome on Ltd soor handles and very small badge on rear. Maybe different wheels or larger badging?
- better selection of exterior & interior colors
- leather in the Ltd is nothing but high grade vinyl. Offer cloth upholstery in Ltd.
- improved fuel mileage however current is great!
- reduce the wind noise at hwy speeds. This is 2011 and wind noise should not even be evident
- offer electric hatch as an option
- back up camera standard on Sport and Ltd
- move from SUV to CUV

Looking forward to comments and also looking forward to the 2012. This is a great SUV and holds top spot in the ratings it can only get better when one looks at the new Sonata, Tuscon and Elantra.
 
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#756 ·
Car looks terrific in that colour - though I'm not sure where they carried out their research to justify retaining the name as whoever asks what I drive has no idea what a Santa Fe is! Ix45 wouldn't have changed that either I suppose.

If I could order it now, I would!
 
#759 ·
A different review from Whatcar:

First drive review: Hyundai Santa Fe Review | Autocar

'2012 Hyundai Santa Fe review
Wednesday, July 11, 2012
All-new Hyundai Santa Fe SUV driven
Front- and four-wheel-drive versions
On sale October, priced from £25,495

The current Hyundai Santa Fe has been a huge hit with SUV buyers. So much so that the company has decided to retain the name for this replacement rather than give it an ‘i’ badge to bring it into line with most other models in the Hyundai range.

Don’t think that you’re just getting a restyled version of the previous car, though. This is the first Santa Fe that will be offered with both two- and four-wheel drive, and Hyundai is promising big improvements in refinement, interior quality and technology to compensate for a £1740 hike in the starting price.

Efficiency has certainly taken a step forward. The new Santa Fe uses an updated version of its predecessor’s 194bhp 2.2-litre diesel engine, and this averages 46.3mpg and 159g/km of CO2 when combined with a manual gearbox and four-wheel drive – improvements of 5.9mpg and 17g/km.

The new two-wheel drive model is only slightly more efficient, managing 47.9mpg and 155g/km, while the four-wheel drive auto delivers 41.5mpg and 178g/km.

A 148bhp 2.0-litre engine might be added to the range later.

What’s the 2012 Hyundai Santa Fe like to drive?
The engine feels strong, as long as you keep the revs above 1500rpm, but it does transmit a bit of vibration through the pedals, and the standard manual gearbox is notchy. The optional auto is far more likeable, as long as you can live with its higher running costs.


Front-wheel-drive Santa Fe models will be available for the first time

UK-bound Santa Fe models will get a stiffer suspension set-up than the one on European cars, which seems like an odd decision given that our roads are generally worse.

Hopefully, Hyundai isn’t planning to change things too dramatically; we tried four-wheel-drive cars with the European set-up, and this strikes a good balance.


Updated 2.2-litre diesel engine has lower CO2 emissions

The ride is on the acceptable side of firm at all speeds. It remains impressively settled over patched-up surfaces, too, and body roll is pretty well controlled in bends.

Grip and traction are also good, despite the fact all the power goes to the front wheels until they start to slip.

Instead it’s the steering that lets the side down, because it’s inconsistently weighted, although you can at least make it effortlessly light for parking at the touch of a button.


Good to drive, although the steering lets the side down

Wind noise builds up around the windscreen at motorway speeds, but there’s little else to disturb the peace.

What’s the 2012 Hyundai Santa Fe like inside?
Perceived quality has traditionally been a Hyundai weakness, but the new Santa Fe features smart cabin plastics and slick switchgear.

True, the heavily styled dashboard can look a little confusing at first glance, but most of the controls are clearly labelled, and simple enough to use.


Smarter cabin; five or seven seats, as before

The new Santa Fe also offers an elevated driving position and lots of adjustment. Unfortunately, the front head restraints compromise comfort, because they jut forward a long way, leaving your neck at an awkward angle.

Both five- and seven-seat versions of the Santa Fe will be available (the latter carries a £1200 premium) and all the rear seats fold down pretty much flat.

As a bonus, the second-row seats slide back and forth on runners so you can change the balance between legroom and luggage space or give people in the optional third row a little more room.

Six-footers will still want to avoid the third row due to the limited headroom, but small adults and kids can fit without too much discomfort, and there’s loads of space in the first two rows.

What’s more irritating is the fact that the central seat in the second row is hard and narrow, and that you can get into and out of the third row only from the passenger’s side of the car.

The boot is tiny when all seven seats are up, but there’s a huge, rectangular load space when you use the Santa Fe as a five-seater.

Even entry-level Style models will come with alloys, reversing sensors, air-conditioning, Bluetooth, seven airbags and Trailer Stability Assist.

Should I buy one?
The Santa Fe will start at £25,495 for a front-wheel-drive five-seater, while the cheapest four-wheel-drive seven-seater will cost £28,095 – £3340 more than the equivalent version of the current car.

Such a big rise is particularly disappointing when low pricing has always been such a key part of the Santa Fe’s appeal. However, buyers of the new model will be getting a car that’s classier, more efficient, better equipped, and better to drive – as long as the firmer UK suspension set-up doesn’t ruin the ride.

The new Santa Fe might look expensive compared with rivals such as the Chevrolet Captiva, but it’s a significantly better car.

Rivals:
Chevrolet Captiva
Mitsubishi Outlander

What Car? says…'



Steve Huntingford
 
#767 · (Edited)
The brown leather interior is not coming to the UK, interiors are limited to black and beige.

I'd missed it before, but metallic/pearl paint is an additional £495 on top of OTR prices.

Dealers are still genuinely in the dark (mate of mine normally spills the beans), though "anticipate static demo cars for exclusive previews in September". That means cars on boats imminently.


 
#770 ·
Not sure I see the "quality" in these photos. More "design" if you ask me.

The new interior resembles my 2011 Elantra, which is stylish and modern but also a bit of an imposter. Once you get over the initial impression you find yourself surrounded by EZ-scratch painted plastic, tinny doors, and a steering wheel whose thin leather wrapping is subject to peeling off.

My 2008 Santa Fe, meanwhile, is a bit old-world in appearance but still has the look and feel of a brand-new vehicle. I swear it is impossible to dent the sheet metal on this beast, or make anything shake or rattle. I wonder if the best-built Hyundais are already behind us.
 
#772 ·
The new interior resembles my 2011 Elantra, which is stylish and modern but also a bit of an imposter. Once you get over the initial impression you find yourself surrounded by EZ-scratch painted plastic, tinny doors, and a steering wheel whose thin leather wrapping is subject to peeling off.
You should see the crap Honda puts in the new Civic. I've seen them come in with barely 2,000 miles with the door panels completely white where people have just touched them. The entire dash is garbage, too.
 
#781 ·
All of the Santa Fe info that was released at todays Twitter chat:

No LED fog lamps...but stay tuned for other LED lighting news... ^jfk #hyundaichat

Zollo05 Looking forward to the new Santa Fe Sport trading in my Lexus hopefully it will have a quality upgraded interior? #HYUNDAICHAT

We think you're really going to like the new Santa Fe interior. ^jfk #hyundaichat

DraggingPC Any info on the torque vectoring on the Santa Fe? Is it a true system, or brake based? Able to tow 5000lbs? #HyundaiChat

Transfer case and brake-based. Details coming in August. ^jfk #hyundaichat

Any details on the LWB Santa Fe for families, like # of latch connectors for car seats, entertaiment sys, etc #HyundaiChat -3:44 PM Jul 19th, 2012

Rear seat entertainment...yes. Also rear side window sunshades. Heated rear seats. Checking on LATCH. ^jfk

Looks like two outboard second row LATCH positions. ^jfk #hyundaichat -

@Hyundai release date for new santa fe and pricing? #hyundaichat -3:59 PM Jul 19th, 2012

Possibly late August. #hyundaichat -4:00 PM Jul 19th

(I believe they were referring to LWB model, not sport in regards to the release info response, but not sure as they already confirmed retail delivery in August for Sport).

DraggingPC Any rough estimates as to pricing of AWD LWB?

A bit too early for that...but it will be very competitive for sure. ^jfk #hyundaichat -4:01 PM Jul 19th, 2012
 
#784 ·
In the chat, my profile was Draggingpc. I asked twice about the towing capacity of the LWB, but got no response.

Also for the LATCH connectors, I assume that the optional captains chairs in the 2nd row would have latch and you could walk through the middle to access the 3rd row. Not sure how the 2nd row bench would work out if you had 2 carseats and needed to gain access to the 3rd row...

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#785 ·
Many first model year vehicles are often plagued with a variety of "bugs" that usually get worked out in the 2nd or subsequent model years. I had a 1st model year 2005 Subaru Outback which had its share of issues.

Not sure if I should just look at another vehicle which has proven reliability or jump into a 1st model year SF (LWB 2013).

Can any previous 1st model year SF owners comment on reliability or problems experienced?
 
#791 ·
UK info: Hyundai are doing the rounds amongst dealers and invites to view the car in advance of sales have been received. Local deliveries of launch cars from Tilbury are scheduled for 3rd week of September, don't know when the boat physically arrives.

Service interval 20k/24months, spare wheel is a matching alloy - ground clearance wasn't discussed. Indicators are on the left.

If I'm told more that doesn't drop him in it, I'll pass it on.
 
#792 ·
Thanks for that - I guess that launch models will spend longer at Tilbury in preparation than usual.

The service interval extension will bring the Santa Fe into line with the mainstream/premium brands that Hyundai publicly aspires to match.

The fullsize alloy wheel/tyre is good news, given the trends from other brands, and will at least reassure our North American contributors that a fullsize spare will fit if they buy one instead of the donut.
 
#793 ·
Welcome - the extended service interval is certainly good news financially, though I'm sure some will argue that longer intervals are mechanically detrimental.

Forgot to add: 41 combined, 51 extra and 31 urban MPG for the auto. Isofix on 1st row of rear seats only (on 7 seaters). Auto down windows all round. No bling chrome grill for the UK.

'looks lower'
 
#794 ·
Welcome - the extended service interval is certainly good news financially, though I'm sure some will argue that longer intervals are mechanically detrimental.

Forgot to add: 41 combined, 51 extra and 31 urban MPG for the auto. Isofix on 1st row of rear seats only (on 7 seaters). Auto down windows all round. No bling chrome grill for the UK.

'looks lower'
Sounds like great MPG. I'm from USA but am curious, what type of engine is this, what's the HP and torque?
John
 
#795 ·
It's a tweaked version of the current 4 cylinder 2.2 litre turbo diesel, producing 194bhp (145kw) and possibly more relevant 431nm (318lb/ft) at 2000rpm.

Those mpg figures are based on UK gallons too.

I'm definitely looking forward to the test drive!
 
#796 ·
I am a little disappointed that there is no Xenon Headlight option. I would have thought that they would have added it as an additional option or part of one of the higher packages. Since they are moving up market it seems like it would be a perfect fit. They have the technology on other models.
 
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