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post #411 of 806 (permalink) Old 03-17-2012, 11:27 AM
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Philly guy .....That is what I meant! The Ford Eco Boost I4 is a 2.0 liter with direct fuel injection and a single turbocharger. This produces 5.8L/100KM hwy and 8.9 L/100km city! By 2013 90% of Ford's vehicles will be powered by this engine! With today's fuel prices hitting the high note it is this type of engineering that will sell vehicles. Hyundai has a start in the Sonata but must continue throgh the lineup.
Ah, fair enough. Provided they can be reliable and not a maintenance nightmare turbos area a wonderful thing. They are mostly free power. Hard to complain about free power (unless it breaks a lot and costs a fortune to fix). The turbo 4 in the sonata turbo is an amazing motor. I'd have to look at the specs more closely but its very possible its a better fit for the santa fe than the current v6.
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Another thing the new one better have is the positively amazing turning radius of the CM models that many of us have come to enjoy. For a vehicle this size, 35.4' (right in there with the little Honda CR-V) is really quite good.
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First of all the SF is a CUV not an SUV. The fact that the dealer did not tell you of the design change is not a surprise as they are trying to clear out the inventory before the new design hits the dealer's lots later this summer. The 2012 is a great vehicle and has proven itself over the past six years. I am sure that you will be very happy with your choice.
You are probably right. I was surprised that I knew about the re-design before he "did". He didn't in any way push me into buying which I appreciated. I printed out two pictures, one of my Santa Fe, the other of the 2013. The people I have shown them to likes the 2012 better. Thinks the 2013 is too streamlined and didn't like the rear windows. Made me feel better. And I hope you are right that I will be very happy with my choice. I really liked my Endeavor. Had no problems with it for 8 years. And I really didn't need a new car, but knew I would eventually. Judy
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Another thing the new one better have is the positively amazing turning radius of the CM models that many of us have come to enjoy. For a vehicle this size, 35.4' (right in there with the little Honda CR-V) is really quite good.
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Probably the easiest 4,000 brick to park. My Nissan Quest had a long wheelbase and absolutely ridiculous steering stops that made every parking job a 5-point turning maneuver.
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Probably the easiest 4,000 brick to park. My Nissan Quest had a long wheelbase and absolutely ridiculous steering stops that made every parking job a 5-point turning maneuver.
True story. Now only if they can shave a few pounds off of that 4000 part of the brick, we'd get a few more mpgs out of the bugger.
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Nothing that their little 2.0L GDI turbo wouldn't help, both in weight and efficiency. Spent some time in one of those today in a Sonata. Granted, it's a lighter car, but it would still give the 3.5 a run for its money.

3.5L NA
T = 248@5000, HP = 276@6300

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T = 269@1750-4500 (love that torque curve!), HP = 274@6000
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Nothing that their little 2.0L GDI turbo wouldn't help, both in weight and efficiency. Spent some time in one of those today in a Sonata. Granted, it's a lighter car, but it would still give the 3.5 a run for its money.

3.5L NA
T = 248@5000, HP = 276@6300

2.0L Turbo
T = 269@1750-4500 (love that torque curve!), HP = 274@6000
Couldn't agree more. With the turbo 4 (at least in theory) you put out more torque at a lower rpm band which allows you to keep the RPMs lower saving fuel. You have a smaller motor that heats up faster (wonder if turbo air is hot enough to heat the engine up a little as well?), getting to fuel efficient status better. Also at lower speeds there should be fewer losses through the throttle, saving a little bit of fuel. Seems like a huge win unless its a mega disaster of a repair waiting to happen.

I think a turbo 4 Santa Fe could do really well, and in fact wish they would drop the NA 4 and either go turbo 4 or V6 only. I still think they could find some weight to shed though. 4121 lbs for a limited AWD is a LOT of weight.
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Got you beat by 2". I'm 6'6" and for me, the seat height is just right, I can just slide my rear-end sideways and I'm in. No need to climb up or bend down. Perfect!
We should have a tall person contest!! - 6'5" or ~ 196cm..
What impressed me the most is that I can see through the windshield and not have to stick my head out of the sunroof... Really it is a liberating experience and the seat adjustment is just dandy!! I am certain I am going to love it.
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12 Pictures from a leaked Korean brochure!!!!!!!

Exclusive: Hyundai Santa Fe/ix45 first official brochure pictures. | The Korean Car Blog

I'm sure all of these features will not make it to the USA model, but this Sante Fe looks to be a game changer in the industry. Also option for the 3rd row of seets, hopefully this makes it to the US, and they keep the LED Tail lights as well for the US.
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12 Pictures from a leaked Korean brochure!!!!!!!

Exclusive: Hyundai Santa Fe/ix45 first official brochure pictures. | The Korean Car Blog

I'm sure all of these features will not make it to the USA model, but this Sante Fe looks to be a game changer in the industry. Also option for the 3rd row of seets, hopefully this makes it to the US, and they keep the LED Tail lights as well for the US.
I'm still in a quandry about my 2012 purchased 3 weeks ago today. With the new 2013, what's a person to do? It's supposed to be fun getting a new car but this has been unpleasant. I don't want to wait too long to do something. Wonder when they will be in the showroom? I don't want to keep an "out-dated" car that I spent a lot of money on. I would have kept my 2004 Endeavor if I had known these changes were being made. My car will look like a model T. I even had remote start installed and the extended warranty. I want to love my car like the day I purchased it. I've never had to deal with anything like this. In the dumps!!! Judy
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