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#1 Old 10-14-2011, 05:46 PM
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6 speed automatic transmission

Hello,

I have been thinking about the 6 speed automatic transmission. Hyundai calls it Shiftronic. Is this the same as VW's Tiptronic? Does it have a torque converter, or is it a single/dual clutch design?

Also, is the transmission actually designed to be used in manual mode? Is it safe to use it to slow the car down (within reason) when approaching a stop, or to help control the speed while going down hills? Will this sort of use pre-maturely wear out the transmission?
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Has a torque converter. The "Shiftronic" is simply their name for being able to lock the automatic into a particular gear (within reason). I use it for downhill runs, but most any auto can do that. Where I really LIKE it is in snow. You can set it to 3rd, for example, and adding gas going up a hill, it won't downshift to 2nd on you and break traction.
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It's a conventional torque converter transmission with converter lockup and electronic sequential gearshift, commonly called Tiptronic but that's a Porsche tradename, also licensed to the VAG Group.

AFAIK it's normal, ie safe, to use a conventional torque converter transmission to hold in lower gears to slow the vehicle - without premature wear

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Despite everybody telling me I'd ruin my transmission, I used the Shiftronic function on my 2004 SF from day one until the day I sold it at 145,777 miles with absolutely no ill effects. It also had the added bonus of getting my front brake pads to last 75,000 miles, an impressive feat given the large number of hills in this area. I use it in my 2010 all the time and have a hard time imagining owning a car without.

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I use the shiftronic on my '08 quite often to slow down the vehicle plus 2,000 pounds' worth of camping trailer. No side effects so far in 70,000 km, and the fluid is still pink and healthy. The whole powertrain feels pretty robust.

My only criticism is slow automatic downshifting from the 5-speed autobox. But the newer 6-speeds are much better.
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My only criticism is slow automatic downshifting from the 5-speed autobox. But the newer 6-speeds are much better.
My buddy complains about the same thing in his '08 Sonata V6 and since I believe they use the same gearbox, it would make sense.

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Despite everybody telling me I'd ruin my transmission, I used the Shiftronic function on my 2004 SF from day one ...
We use the heck out of the feature here in Colorado when we're not on the flats. If we didn't, there'd be a WHOLE lot more brake work going on. I'm completely happy with my 5 speed except for downhill braking where I wish there was a 2.5 gear (in essence, wish I had the 6 speed for this).

My Chrysler 300M was the first vehicle I owned that had this feature (they called it their AutoStick), and I LOVED not having it downshift going up icy/snowy hills. Was very pleased to discover that the SF also had it.
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One thing I also like about it is that it lets you start out in second gear for snowy take-offs on hills. With all the power that V6 has going, first gear and one mistake putting the power down and you aren't going anywhere.

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One thing I also like about it is that it lets you start out in second gear for snowy take-offs on hills. With all the power that V6 has going, first gear and one mistake putting the power down and you aren't going anywhere.
The Aisin autobox used on GM Europe cars has had a "snowflake" mode for a couple of decades that starts in 3rd to minimise torque at the wheels - it's just a matter of electronics - it's also very useful on wet grass.

I don't understand why every autobox doesn't have this feature.

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One thing I miss about my Honda Odyssey is that its transmission would downshift depending on your speed, speed change and braking. So in going down a hill and trying to slow with the brakes it would downshift. As far as I can tell the Hyundai 6 speed doesn't do that.
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