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#1 Old 03-30-2010, 06:43 PM
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I am interested in general opinion on how to rotate the tires. Of course the dealer and manual are not on the same page.

A couple of years ago I bot Snow Tires (from Costco) and found out last spring they were ROTATIONAL tires - hence they could only move from front to back and not cross over. I was bothered by that knowing that common "theory" is that you do more right turns than left and that wear and tear happens more on the right side.

When I suggested that I could (during the off season) have the snows unmounted and remounted (in reverse) the dealer stated that would not be wise. Ditto Costco employees.

Both stated generally that it is best to keep LEFTS and RIGHTS separate. The theory, they stated, was that:
1) Say there is a problem with the car alignment and that the lefts are wearing more than the right.
2) By crossing the tires from left to right, now the "poorer" left tires will now affect the alignment on the right. (ie a bad left tire will now "infect" the right side).
3) Tires "nowadays" are built better and it makes more sense to not cross them (the "sales job" IMO)

Bottom line - both suggested FOR ALL tires to go back to front only. ie disregard the manual and probably every manual written about tires

I have attached the suggested rotation of the tires [b]from the manual. For the original all seasons, as per the manual. I will have no choice with the winters (other than remounting) and probably will not bother.

But I want to know what general opinion is on this - would you all follow general convention of crossing the tires (as per the manual) or adhere to what the dealer would do? Or maybe I am out of touch with the latest rubber technology and that I should heed their advice?

I have *ALWAYS* hated others touching my tires as I know they will never do the proper job. In fact, when I picked up my car in December, had I not written down the DESIRED move and wrote on the tire themselves the numbers - they would have not done the proper job with the left (and that was a simple back to front with the snows).

I am unsure how common these rotational tires are - seems to be mostly snows but if I had a choice of All seasons - should I go with the rotations or avoid them like the plague?

Thanks all
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Yeah, I saw the graphic in the owners manual, but didn't worry about it. It's always been the case for me in the last 30 years to only rotate tires from front to back. My understanding was that with the advent of radial tires you could not rotate from side to side because if you changed the tire rotation direction it would start to separate the belts in the tires. Bias ply tires were for changing from side to side, but are of a bygone era. As far as worrying about tire wear differing on the left or right side I have never found that to be an issue unless there was an alignment problem.

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I am interested in general opinion on how to rotate the tires. Of course the dealer and manual are not on the same page.

A couple of years ago I bot Snow Tires (from Costco) and found out last spring they were ROTATIONAL tires - hence they could only move from front to back and not cross over. I was bothered by that knowing that common "theory" is that you do more right turns than left and that wear and tear happens more on the right side.

When I suggested that I could (during the off season) have the snows unmounted and remounted (in reverse) the dealer stated that would not be wise. Ditto Costco employees.

Both stated generally that it is best to keep LEFTS and RIGHTS separate. The theory, they stated, was that:
1) Say there is a problem with the car alignment and that the lefts are wearing more than the right.
2) By crossing the tires from left to right, now the "poorer" left tires will now affect the alignment on the right. (ie a bad left tire will now "infect" the right side).
3) Tires "nowadays" are built better and it makes more sense to not cross them (the "sales job" IMO)
I think you mean DIRECTIONAL tires, not ROTATIONAL tires. All tires are rotational.

If you have DIRECTIONAL tires, then yes, they must stay on the same side. You can only rotate front to back on the same side.

If you have non-directional tires then you should rotate them as the book says. For a FWD car that means crossing the rears when going to the front and move the fronts to the back on the same side. For a RWD car it's the opposite. Basically you always cross the non-driven wheels and keep the driven wheels on the same side when rotating.


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My understanding was that with the advent of radial tires you could not rotate from side to side because if you changed the tire rotation direction it would start to separate the belts in the tires.
That is a myth and totally incorrect.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/car_car...more_facts.html
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Myth: Never rotate tires from side to side, only front to back.

Fact: Radial tires can be crossed from side to side in the rotation pattern. The old front-to-back rule applied to bias ply tires. Regular tire rotation--every 6000 to 8000 miles--promotes more uniform wear for all tires on a vehicle.
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Myth: Never rotate tires from side to side, only front to back.

Reality: Radial tires can be crossed from side to side in the rotation pattern. The old front-to-back rule applied to bias-ply tires. Regular tire rotation -- every 6,000 to 8,000 miles -- promotes more uniform wear for all tires on a vehicle.
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The criss-cross pattern in the owner's manual is intended to maximize the life of all four tires. It works best for most tires, including the factory-supplied Bridgestones. The worst consequence is potentially ruining all four tires if (and only if) they are unidirectional (ie: if they have directional arrows on them).

The front-to-back pattern is the safe bet for all tires of equal size. The worst consequence is that one side might wear out faster than the other side, if there is a severe misalignment on one wheel. If you're not sure what to do, simply rotate front-to-back only. That's what I normally do, if for no other reason than it's quicker to jack up one side of the vehicle at a time and swap wheels.
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Directional tires: Front to back.

Non-directional tires: Front to rear. Rears crosssed to fronts. Always use the same pattern. If you have a full sized spare and do 5-wheel rotation, include the spare at the same wheel position every time.
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Sorry, yes I meant DIRECTIONAL and my all seasons are still Bridgestones.

I am timing the rotations based on the snows. I will take off the snows next week - put on the all seasons in the "new pattern" then record that late in the year and put them back on next spring in the "new pattern" - assuming they are still good.

my model is AWD but as it is not FULL time AWD I assume that I would follow the book and/or any "FWD" rotation pattern?

That helps a lot - I will be doing the switch from Snows back to All Seasons next week.

Cheers!
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my model is AWD but as it is not FULL time AWD I assume that I would follow the book and/or any "FWD" rotation pattern?
Yep. And I'd suggest rotating the tires at every oil change (depending on how often you change the oil).
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The front/rear wear differential on my 3.3AWD was significant - which surprised me, since it has a lot of "straight" miles (highway) on it.

Wear has been very even across the tires at 33# inflation. Finally swapped front/rear at 20K. By the time the fronts are done, the "old" fronts will be, too. I figure 30K on these Dueller 684IIs is about all I can hope for.
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i have only rotated the tires once, front to rear, and that was 'cause the wear was noticably different. otherwise, don't really care about rotating 'em. still hve the orig. duellers at 36k...
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I have a 2007 Hyundai Sante Fe AWD. The inside of the front tires are totally worn down after 35k miles on the Bridgestone Duelers. I have my tires rotated about every 5000 miles and had my last alignment was 5000 miles ago as well. I replaced the tires with new tires this week and brought it back to the dealer to do the alignment and have them 'look' more closely at the problem. They said the alignment for the front was fine and the back camber was only slightly off.

Mine is a early 2007 Hyundai Sante Fe and I think it was the first model with the new styling. Is it possibly a defect in the design? I have searched other boards and people discuss problems with bad ball joints, front wheel drive housing.

Any thoughts or other people with the same problem?
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