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Lift points at the front and back

Hi All

I looked through the user guide but it does not show if the car has a lift point at the back and the front of the car when it is needed to place jack stands at the side lifting points when I want to get all four wheels off the car for maintenance..

If you have a reference point from a manual that would be greatly appreciated.

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Ha, easier to jack up my motorhome than these unibody cars, shop manual only shows those four point under the rocker panels where those jack notches are.

Dumped my jack stands a long time ago, use Douglas Fir 2 by 8's cut to 12" long, glued and screwed together, figure if they can support a 450,000 pound locomotive, no problem with a 3,000 pound car,carpet glued and stapled to the top.

Depends on what you want to do, all four wheels hanging or blocks under the wheels, most maintenance, get by with oil changing ramps. Look for suspension points as close to the wheel as possible for brakes, tire one inch off the ground is fine, small block with carpet at the end of the control arms, usually flared for a flat surface, typical weight is only around about 700 pound per wheel. If want wheels hanging good to have two floor jacks so you can raise the front or back evenly. Can use those four points for this.

For changing AT fluid where the vehicle has to be level, blocks go under the wheels, screw in end blocks so it doesn't roll off.

When I was down south, had my 54 Olds on blocks doing AT work in that soft sand, started raining, screw this, car sank and pinned me, was stuck under there for three hours, mosquitoes had a real blast, never want to go through that again. Another, six foot pine snake crawled under and asked me how I was doing. not poisonous, but a restrictor. Like working on flat concrete in a closed garage. Old creeper had the wheels under it, dumped that, new one on the side, really low profile.
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~these handyman topics are always a delight addition to the forum~

So, OP...what kind of work were you thinking about doing to your car that it came across your mind to ask this question?

One of the coolest things Ive seen for DIY-ers for car maintenance is in the following picture below. Yeah, it's large in size and weighs a lot...still cool nonetheless. Picture shows two ramps and the way to store them (stacked).



Another idea and one I've used- get a 2x12 and cut it into squares (12"x12"), stack them as high as the desired height that works for the height you're looking to raise the car (oh yeah, jack up your car first)....slide the squares under the pinch weld and use a pinch weld floor jack adapter like the one in the link on top of the wood squares. For added safety, you could always screw the wood squares together but the problem there is the large size as a solid piece instead of the single wood squares that could be added one at a time to reach a more custom desired height.

Subaru WRX JACK PAD Adapter Black Floor Jack pinch weld T6 | eBay

I have jack stands...really nice ones too. Problem is, ever since this whole pinch weld thing took over the industry, it made it more of a hassle for the guy willing to work on his car at home considering jack stands can't be directly used in that location without a safety risk and addional adapters.

Edit- so cool...this guy made a pinch weld adapter and sold them on eBay. I'll have to take a closer look at the pinch weld on the Hyundai. Cool idea...I might make one like the one pictured in the link below.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160880164753...&ul_noapp=true

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Hi surfer .. When I bleed the brakes for example.. I like to get all four wheels off .. And then when i do a brake job on either the front or the back.. I like to raise either the f or r , and then set the car on the stands and pull off the wheel..
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Cool, cool CB. Absolutely love it when someone comes around here and has/willing to have a hands on experience with their car. My fiancé is trying to negotiate the absence of a bachelor party in return for a big brake setup. The interesting thing is, I'm kinda considering it given the setup I want.

Geez, man...those big brake kits are pricey. Which brake fluid are you using..DOT 3 or 4? When the time comes, my intent will be going with DOT 4. If you're changing/flushing your system much, I'm expecting your choice to be along the same decision.

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I would go with dot4 ..

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Hi surfer .. When I bleed the brakes for example.. I like to get all four wheels off .. And then when i do a brake job on either the front or the back.. I like to raise either the f or r , and then set the car on the stands and pull off the wheel..
The pinch weld adapters don't work well for Hyundai - at least the RB Accent - the inbord support is higher than the outboard section near the pinch weld. But a good floor jack with a large saddle works fine.

I rarely take all four wheels off the ground (actually, I only have two jack stands), but if I wanted to:

Jack left rear at jack point - put stand under left side of beam axle.

Jack right rear at jack point - put stand under right side of beam axle.

Jack RF at jack point - put jack stand under control arm or subframe.

Jack LF at jack point - put jack stand under control arm or subframe.


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Lazy, for bleeding, passenger car, back it up on my ramps, not that thin for about 5" of ground clearance, fronts, no problem, can rotate the wheels left or right to get at the bleeders. Motorhome has lots of ground clearance, just crawl under there.

Brakes, have to remove the wheels, least I think so, have a Made in the USA floor jack, cradle removed, slide that close to the backing plates, put blocks between the suspension and the jack. Only have to jack it up an inch, if it should leak, will only go down an inch, but Made in the USA floor jacks don't do this. Made in China crap do.

Could always hot wire the ABS pump for very rapid bleeding, but since the law got involved, need some kind of scanner. Hyundai shop manual says to only run that pump for a few seconds or its motor will burn up. How long is a few seconds?

Old ones pulsed at 10 per second, these new pieces of crap, about once per second, next to worthless. Can fan my foot faster than this, this is what we use to do when people knew how to drive.
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That's a cool tool for the floor jack. I would imagine most of our northern friends have a box in the garage that's full of old hockey pucks. Little cut, here and there, BAM!

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Bit slow on some things, always wanted a garage with a lift in it, maybe next year. Took me only 43 years to finally get an insulated heated garage, getting soft, working in -10*F weather is getting difficult with these old bones. Also the days I could kick my feet forward and land on them off my creeper are far gone. If anything that needs a complete overhaul, its me.
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