"A lot of stuff is unknown even by the dealer service techs, and the sales staff is lucky if they can tell you what comes in each trim package from the factory, much less what you can and can't add to the car. "---------
Yes, but this went up and down the line at the dealership, dealer gets a hold of general manager who does research and says no way to get cruise with standard, end of story as far as they were concerned. Not blaming them at all, I'm sure they'd love to get more $$ from me as an add-on, just funny how they don't have the right info sometimes.
"Some things really can't be added"--------
Absolutely, it's just fun finding the things you can. Like easter eggs in a dvd.
"More info: Obviously, you can install fog lights apart from the factory system with a separate toggle switch. The factory light switch goes through a data bus connection through the BCM....."--------------
I'd draw the line there and route the darn thing direct from battery to switch to lights! Problem solved! Hehe....>
"Rostra is in a tough spot here. Off the top of my head:
Dodge Dart - Can just install switches and have CC.
Kia Soul - can just install switches and have CC - thanks NicholasD.
AD Elantra - we know now you can just install switches and a harness and have CC.
Kia Rio - can just install switches and have CC.
Hyundai RB Accent (same body and engine as Kia Rio), can install switches, but need three wires from the switches (or somewhere else) to the PCM - there is a thread on here about it - I'm not sure if there is an inexpensive harness to install it.
Gen III Focus - From memory - I don't think you can buy switches, you can buy the steering wheel with CC for around $300, and THEN you can have CC turned on at the dealer through their equivalent of Hyundai's GDS system - but you don't need Focccus and it CAN be enabled even if the car didn't come with it.
So Rostra sells you a package that will work in your car without having to research how it works from the factory. Yes, in many cases you are buying parts you don't need, but you WILL end up in the end with working CC regardless."--------------
Well, I certainly would have appreciated the opportunity to get a Rostra if I couldn't get oem to work, he was just adamant that the car has been evaluated, and they determined that all this stuff was indeed needed. Perhaps at the time they did their research that was the case, who knows. I just got to thinking, I got the Korean version, that alone might be the reason I was able to make it work? Anyhow, thanks for the input.