Dealer Oil....

[IXEC]

Originally Posted by golfermack

Not so anymore. Per Hyundai's web site: "Coverage applies to original owner only, effective with 2004 model year and newer model year vehicles. On 1999-2003 model years, coverage applies to original owner and immediate family members (i.e., wife, husband, daughter, son, stepdaughter, stepson)."
https://www.hyundaiusa.com/assurance...-warranty.aspx

John

Thank you for clarifying that John. . . .Looks like I'll do my own oil changes once again from now on....

[Voivod]

Originally Posted by someguy

This is something I wonder why they dont all do. For the cost of a few bucks an oil change they get a lifetime service customer.

When I bought the car I got played... I let myself get played, and lied to about several issues. I was furious with the dealership and went elsewhere for service. I didn't even find out until four months after I bought and paid for one already that I got an email about the free oil changes. But since then I've talked to several managers there they've really gone out of their way to make it up to me. They even did the timing belt service for $80. I'll keep going back....

[Fxleonardo]

For those who own the 2013 santa fe,..

Do you have to change the oil every 3000 miles? I thought new cars these days, can last until 7500 miles?

[prmax]

Currently I am changing oil at 3250. After my next oil change I will do a UOA to determine how it is doing and make adjustments accordingly.

[SVTfocusO3]

Originally Posted by Fxleonardo

For those who own the 2013 santa fe,..

Do you have to change the oil every 3000 miles? I thought new cars these days, can last until 7500 miles?

I would if your not using a good synthetic, or at least blend, but you can go safely 5000 miles if you prefer.

Our dealer recommends 3750, we use Quaker state. Castrol oil is better, though.

[johndixs]

Are dealers using dino oil or synthetic blend?

[Voivod]

Originally Posted by johndixs

Are dealers using dino oil or synthetic blend?

Ask and find out. Mine does. Your dealer may not.

[Mtnlion44]

I see a lot of people wasting money and resources with superfluous oil changes. As discredited as it is, the 3000 mile oil change is still hanging around. I'm assuming that most of us aren't rich and that a lot of us also care about the environment and resource conservation. Modern motor oils are an order of magnitude better than they were a generation ago. The same is true of modern gasoline which keeps engines much cleaner than your father's gas (the biggest factor that led to older oils breaking down quicker was from acids that were a byproduct of combustion, with physical breakdown of the lubricating carbon chains a distant second). Non-synthetic oil in a clean efficient engine at 3K miles is not only not very old, it's practically new. The 7500 mile change interval is still a pretty conservative frequency. It's nice Hyundai to not make it 5000 miles and I'm going to stick to the warranty frequency, but an oil like Quaker State is fine after 10K miles. There's nothing really wrong or wasteful in changing it that often though. Pretty much any brand name oil with the certification seal on the bottle is going to be as good as any other. But you're just not adding any longevity to the engine by changing before 7500 miles. It may make people feel like they are babying their car but it's superfluous (and wasteful). A good price for an oil change is $25 or less. Autozone and the like run sales on it all the time. Oil filters are a paper sleeve situated between a outer casing and a perforated steel screen. Look inside one and you are seeing the whole deal in all it's elegant simplicity. The paper is basically just there to catch a pc. of grit that might somehow get into the system. Usually oil just flows through it and it doesn't catch anything bc. there is nothing to catch. A $5 Fram oil filter is made the same and serves this purpose as good as any "genuine" one. I wouldn't bet against it being made in the same place (car companies don't really make oil filters) The membrane doesn't get clogged or anything and really it would be fine to change it every few oil changes. Only real reason to change it is that it has old oil in it. If it happens to catch something it's not going anywhere. If you google this stuff or ask the dealers about it you are likely to get distortions or outright lies. They aren't objective and they aren't your friends when it comes to this stuff. That's just the truth. I've never trusted Synthetic blends bc. they never say what the blend is. I'm pretty sure I know why. Better to just buy 4 quarts of regular oil and a quart of synthetic and blend it yourself. Then you know it's 20% synthetic. As excellent as regular oils are, synthetic is more resistant to breakdown (physical and chemical;this is how oil "wears out."). If you want to pay up for this marginal value added then leave it in for 15K miles. Don't let Hyundai sell you synthetic at the normal interval. A synthetic like Syntech 5w-50 combines the flow and low resistance of a light oil and the added durability of a heavier oil in one product. This adds to efficiency and protects the engine. A light oil creates less pumping resistance and is able to reach the moving parts faster on startup. For the same reason, you should use lighter 30 weight regular oil but change it sooner than you would synthetic. But not any sooner than every 7500 miles.

[grandpaswagon]

Originally Posted by Mtnlion44

I see a lot of people wasting money and resources with superfluous oil changes. As discredited as it is, the 3000 mile oil change is still hanging around. I'm assuming that most of us aren't rich and that a lot of us also care about the environment and resource conservation. Modern motor oils are an order of magnitude better than they were a generation ago. The same is true of modern gasoline which keeps engines much cleaner than your father's gas (the biggest factor that led to older oils breaking down quicker was from acids that were a byproduct of combustion, with physical breakdown of the lubricating carbon chains a distant second). Non-synthetic oil in a clean efficient engine at 3K miles is not only not very old, it's practically new. The 7500 mile change interval is still a pretty conservative frequency. It's nice Hyundai to not make it 5000 miles and I'm going to stick to the warranty frequency, but an oil like Quaker State is fine after 10K miles. There's nothing really wrong or wasteful in changing it that often though. Pretty much any brand name oil with the certification seal on the bottle is going to be as good as any other. But you're just not adding any longevity to the engine by changing before 7500 miles. It may make people feel like they are babying their car but it's superfluous (and wasteful). A good price for an oil change is $25 or less. Autozone and the like run sales on it all the time. Oil filters are a paper sleeve situated between a outer casing and a perforated steel screen. Look inside one and you are seeing the whole deal in all it's elegant simplicity. The paper is basically just there to catch a pc. of grit that might somehow get into the system. Usually oil just flows through it and it doesn't catch anything bc. there is nothing to catch. A $5 Fram oil filter is made the same and serves this purpose as good as any "genuine" one. I wouldn't bet against it being made in the same place (car companies don't really make oil filters) The membrane doesn't get clogged or anything and really it would be fine to change it every few oil changes. Only real reason to change it is that it has old oil in it. If it happens to catch something it's not going anywhere. If you google this stuff or ask the dealers about it you are likely to get distortions or outright lies. They aren't objective and they aren't your friends when it comes to this stuff. That's just the truth. I've never trusted Synthetic blends bc. they never say what the blend is. I'm pretty sure I know why. Better to just buy 4 quarts of regular oil and a quart of synthetic and blend it yourself. Then you know it's 20% synthetic. As excellent as regular oils are, synthetic is more resistant to breakdown (physical and chemical;this is how oil "wears out."). If you want to pay up for this marginal value added then leave it in for 15K miles. Don't let Hyundai sell you synthetic at the normal interval. A synthetic like Syntech 5w-50 combines the flow and low resistance of a light oil and the added durability of a heavier oil in one product. This adds to efficiency and protects the engine. A light oil creates less pumping resistance and is able to reach the moving parts faster on startup. For the same reason, you should use lighter 30 weight regular oil but change it sooner than you would synthetic. But not any sooner than every 7500 miles.

Check this forum for info on oil and oil filters and much more:

Bob Is The Oil Guy - Forums powered by UBB.threads™

Since you posted in the 2013 Santa Fe section, check Hyundai requirements for normal and severe usage for both the 2.4 and 2.0T engine.

You may have a change in your views.

[GregL]

Originally Posted by Mtnlion44

A $5 Fram oil filter is made the same and serves this purpose as good as any "genuine" one. I wouldn't bet against it being made in the same place (car companies don't really make oil filters)

Oil Filters Revealed - MiniMopar Resources

You might want to look at this site and see for yourself that not all filters are the same. The $5 fram is being one of the worst,

also

This TSB also applies to Hyundai as Kia=Hyundai and they use the same components: