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Accelerator pedal mod to increase throttle opening percentage

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#1 ·
For those using the Torque app you may have noticed that when you fully depress the accelerator pedal the throttle % won't pass from 74.5. Also if you remove the intake hose to see the throttle valve you will notice that is not completely open when the gas pedal is floored.

When I read this thread http://www.hyundai-forums.com/233-rb-2012-accent/164583-those-using-torque-app.html someone posted that it may be limited by the gas pedal so my curiosity made me make some tests. :D

Tools needed:
1. 12mm socket and ratchet
2. A dremmel with a grinding stone like this one https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4b4fdkdbpdg2g4/20130803_141602.jpg (you can use something similar)

First I removed the accelerator pedal using a 12mm socket to remove two nuts that hold the part in place and disconnected the electrical connection. The plug has a red tab that you have to pull out and it disconnects.

You can see that here https://www.dropbox.com/s/0u5y27klnsnj26e/13 - 1.png

I partly disassembled the pedal and it looks like this https://www.dropbox.com/s/2po8hktdzmb1zcj/20130803_110558.jpg
But you don't have to open it and I recommend not doing it. If you mess with that then you will have to calibrate the accelerator pedal, is not difficult to do it but takes some time.

What I did was grind the part of the pedal that limits the travel with the grinding stone. This was how the pedal looked stock https://www.dropbox.com/s/8yi6hk9rnzviic0/20130803_111713.jpg . And after carefully grinding it to make it flat https://www.dropbox.com/s/hdguubydpc39goj/20130803_123315.jpg

I noticed that there is a limit on the opening %, it is 83.9. I grinded more but it wont pass that number. This is the Torque app screenshot https://www.dropbox.com/s/f9l6xpm2holrj51/Screenshot_2013-08-03-12-44-59.png

Installation is reverse as removal. I didn't disconnect the battery cable but is recommended to do every time you work on the electrical stuff of the car.

So for those that had the curiosity of why the throttle wasn't opening more this is one of the reasons.

As for performance I haven't fully tested the car but for now I don't feel any difference other than the pedal going further down. I will do now a semi long trip on the highway and I will let you know if I feel more power. lol :laughing:
 

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#26 ·
Sprint Booster

There's an aftermarket switch & control box you can get that just piggy back's to your gas pedal, it has 3 settings for the exact issue that's being discussed here.
You can leave it at one spot for stock, then switch to the next (colours if I remember correctly) which is moderate which gives you quicker throttle response & feels little quicker next is full which gives you the best possible throttle response you'll ever get as well as alot quicker off the line etc.
I found it when I also hooked up my code reader android app & noticed that the throttle only went to 90% approx, I'm sure it's called Sprint Booster when I saw it almost 2 year's ago it was $200+ so couldn't justify that much for the mod. Probably just setting the tps or the pedal sensor to respond with a light touch will do almost the same, it'll take any delay out of the throttle response at least.
 
#6 · (Edited)
I noticed that there is a limit on the opening %, it is 83.9. I grinded more but it wont pass that number. This is the Torque app screenshot https://www.dropbox.com/s/f9l6xpm2ho...3-12-44-59.png
Interesting. I would daresay that there is a limit within either the throttle body (physical limiter) or the ECU software that does not allow full 100% opening. It may even be detrimental to do so: it could be that Hyundai discovered that with the mechanism they use that a "full open" situation possibly hangs up, and therefore they limit it both in the pedal and the throttle body.

Be careful if you attempt a similar "surgery" on the throttle body itself. This mod on the pedal is probably completely harmless (other than the slight weakening of the throttle pedal-arm and small risk of breaking it under a heavy foot), but I would exercise caution on a part that is critical to the operation of the vehicle, yet you have absolutely zero direct control over.

To those mimicking this mod - I would be more inclined to whittle-away a bit of the throttle stop, if there is nothing "critical" beneath it, rather than the pedal-arm.

Happy Grinding....
 
#7 ·
Yeah I'm going to grind down the stop at the back instead of the pedal. After you test it to see if it changed anything
 
#10 ·
My biggest concern with this mod is safety. I'm thinking of what happened with the toyota issues they had with their accelerators. Not sure I want venture into this mod without talking to a Hyundai tech first or a knowledgable mechanic. Just my thoughts.
 
#11 ·
A Hyundai tech is going to tell you not to do it. But a Hyundai tech is going to tell you not to do just about any mod to the car, so that isn't a good way to look at it. This should only be done by someone who understands the mechanics behind it. Obviously grinding down a stop isn't going to make the pedal stick though, so this is a relatively safe modification unless you accidentally break something else while you are down there... And in that case, you'd realize it right away because your throttle wouldn't work correctly! ^_^

Now, I'd love to see a before/after dyno of this mod to see if opening the throttle body that much more actually does anything for the engine. That's a pretty expensive undertaking though, so I don't expect anyone to go out and do that unless they have access to their own shop or something.
 
#13 ·
I did this on mine sunday.....

no change in throttle opening. even reset the computer just incase it needed to relearn. nada,nothing :dry:

it is the ecu limiting the throttle opening. this is what I thought, but was worth a try. will add back the 1/4ish material back since it changed nothing for throttlebody opening. will use epoxy or simply glue some hard rubber to make the pedal travel the same as before
 
#21 ·
I do believe Btrcc and SFR are currently working on it , correct me if im wrong but i think both may be out by now
 
#23 ·
Throttle controller is around 350$ same as the tune but with the tune you will get more power. Although a controller will give you more options to select sensitivity
 
#25 ·
I bought the elm327 adapter almost 2 year's ago just after I bought my 13 Elantra just for shits & giggles to see how it worked, that was the first thing I noticed was the throttle only went to 89.9% no more. I guess it was too be expected seeing the car was made to be a gas sipping economical vehicle yet it still made me wonder how to get around that or what!?
The throttle plate is where it really matters obviously, if the plate is only opening 3/4 at full throttle then you know your issue.