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Old 10-11-2012, 09:04 PM   #21 (permalink)
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weird! I just got a 2013 Kia Rio. We looked at the accent also being they are pretty much the same car maybe you can use the rio's head rest. they dont seem to have this issue.
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Sonic has a turbo version, so that makes it very unique and sporty.
turbos are about as unique now as fat people in a mcdonalds.


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The sonic with the 1.8 motor uses a timing belt. That's not a good thing.
how exactly is a timing belt bad?
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how exactly is a timing belt bad?
It's s serviceable part that needs attention. They wear out and have to be replaced after so many thousand miles... The Hyundai GDI engine has an internal chain that requires no service and lasts the life of the engine.

External belts are sometimes prone to slipping a cog or two on the pulleys.. And, if you don't pay attention to their condition, they can break. If you have an 'interference' style engine, a broken belt will take out the valves and pistons leaving the owner with very costly repairs... ..Timing belts - Sterling Garage
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It's s serviceable part that needs attention. They wear out and have to be replaced after so many thousand miles... The Hyundai GDI engine has an internal chain that requires no service and lasts the life of the engine.

External belts are sometimes prone to slipping a cog or two on the pulleys.. And, if you don't pay attention to their condition, they can break. If you have an 'interference' style engine, a broken belt will take out the valves and pistons leaving the owner with very costly repairs... ..Timing belts - Sterling Garage
What he said
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On the older V8s (Ford & Chevy), it was not uncommon for the timing chain to jump a tooth after the engine had a bunch of miles on it. I don't see replacing a belt after 100,000+ miles as bad, IF (that's a big if) they engineered the engine to replace the belt with relative ease.
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On the older V8s (Ford & Chevy), it was not uncommon for the timing chain to jump a tooth after the engine had a bunch of miles on it. I don't see replacing a belt after 100,000+ miles as bad, IF (that's a big if) they engineered the engine to replace the belt with relative ease.
Quite often it is a 60,000 mile interval, and the repair usually ends up with the water pump and idler(s) being changed which ends up being a $1,000+ maintenace item.
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very true on the timing belt; our 2004 Hyundai Accent has a Timing belt, I just had it done for the second time at 140k miles, the car does not even have a hydraulic tensioner so they have to be tightened down to the point where they stretch automatically so they do not jump a tooth...
I am glad the newer models have a timing chain instead...

Now we looked at the Rio/Forte/Optima lineup from kia and did not like any of them. First off the Rio is based on the Accent; but rear seat room is smaller in the Rio. Which will not work for my wife and I due to a infant seat... the Forte based on the Elantra is still much smaller than its counterpart... and the Optima made it difficult to even see out the windshield due to the severe angle of the head restraint....

I do not agree; but my wife refuses to buy anything domestic at this point. The Focus and Fiesta seem to be way overpriced for what they are. This is bad when I am trying to find the most loaded car for under $19k... I want to try the Sonic or a Cruze but my wife vetoed the vote on that...
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very true on the timing belt; our 2004 Hyundai Accent has a Timing belt, I just had it done for the second time at 140k miles, the car does not even have a hydraulic tensioner so they have to be tightened down to the point where they stretch automatically so they do not jump a tooth...
I am glad the newer models have a timing chain instead...

Now we looked at the Rio/Forte/Optima lineup from kia and did not like any of them. First off the Rio is based on the Accent; but rear seat room is smaller in the Rio. Which will not work for my wife and I due to a infant seat... the Forte based on the Elantra is still much smaller than its counterpart... and the Optima made it difficult to even see out the windshield due to the severe angle of the head restraint....

I do not agree; but my wife refuses to buy anything domestic at this point. The Focus and Fiesta seem to be way overpriced for what they are. This is bad when I am trying to find the most loaded car for under $19k... I want to try the Sonic or a Cruze but my wife vetoed the vote on that...
How about the new Dodge Dart? It's on an Alfa Romeo platform, so you can tell your wife it's Italian.

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I was actually getting ready to suggest that, the Dart looks like it would be a comfy ride. I've been checking out the Dart/Cruze/Focus and prefer them in that order.

There's hardly anything domestic about the Dart aside from being built here. Alfa Romeo chassis, Fiat engine/transmissions (if turbo) or a reworked version of the Hyundai/Mitsubishi/Chrysler 4-cyl with a Hyundai automatic. Somewhere around 50% domestic parts content.

I was looking at a lightly equipped SXT 2.0/auto -- they're plentiful in the $19-21k range. Slow and not as fuel efficient as the turbo, but the turbo is a $1k option and tack on another $1k for the dual clutch auto.
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Try swap with rear outboard head rests.
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