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Old 08-27-2012, 01:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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my car, (honda) is notorious for having stripped oil pan drain plug people don't even flinch when it's stripped, they just re-thread.

I know german cars' bolts torque specs are "guten'tight" :P but what about hyundai??? (well i'll be working on 12 elantra) is there specific torque for oil drain plug? or can i just go by 25-30 (of course i can, but i would like to know if there's any info available)


additional question : is there such a "crush washer" in the drain plugs of hyundai that is supposed to be replaced every drain??

i can't sleep i have to figure this out before i get to it lol anyone having similar symptoms?
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I torque mine to 30, no issues. Also yes there is a washer, they call it a crush washer but its not really one. You can use it more than once, some ppl flip it over. I used mine about a year before swapping it out.
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I torque mine to 30, no issues. Also yes there is a washer, they call it a crush washer but its not really one. You can use it more than once, some ppl flip it over. I used mine about a year before swapping it out.
Awesome! Assuming the worst, that the washer's been there for 12k miles I guess I'll just buy/ask for one when I buy the filter.

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Yeah if its been on there for 12k that should be fine. I wont be leaving mine a whole year again because it was a pain to get off the bolt but it wasnt leaking oil. Use Hyundai/Kia filter and the dealer will have some washers too. Mine thinks these parts are made of gold though so I got my filters and washers on ebay.

Also the cap wrench you need is 15flute 80mm, its tight in there for adjustable wrench.

and 17mm on the drain plug.
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Yeah if its been on there for 12k that should be fine. I wont be leaving mine a whole year again because it was a pain to get off the bolt but it wasnt leaking oil. Use Hyundai/Kia filter and the dealer will have some washers too. Mine thinks these parts are made of gold though so I got my filters and washers on ebay.

Also the cap wrench you need is 15flute 80mm, its tight in there for adjustable wrench.

and 17mm on the drain plug.
darn dealers right? my acura dealer wants $45 for air bag trim nail lol.

i was thinking i could just hammer a screwdriver through the filter and spin it off? always did it like that when mine wouldn't come off(honda)

we're both students and tight on cash so i prefer not to buy tools unless necessary, (btw you made the ramps sound REALLY necessary, i am sold lol)
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It is recommended to change the crush washer at every oil change. However people get away with using the same one for years.
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I torque mine to precisely "good and snug using a short-handled ratchet". In 30 years of doing oil changes I have neither stripped a drain bolt nor experienced a leak due to insufficient tightening... touch aluminum.

As for the crush washers, 95% of the time you can re-use them with no problem. It's the other 5% that makes it not worth it to try IMO.
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For the OCD-er's: 25-32 foot pounds of torque on the oil pan drain bolt. I've done both: hand tightened AND torqued the bolt. And Don is "spot-on" with regard to reusing that crush washer. I have flipped mine over and used the other side many times. However, most of the time when I bought a Hyundai filter, my parts guy would throw a washer in on the deal. I have about a half dozen in the garage. One time he charged me a $1.00. I was livid.

Now I get free oil/filter changes for life, every 3,750 miles. It was a promotion at the time I bought my 2013. So far, so good. They haven't screwed up anything, YET. How do I know? This 63-year old raises the hood, pulls the dipstick, looks underneath for drips, spills, etc. All BEFORE leaving the dealership. I don't care what they think. My car, my rules!
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On my Mazda 6 it has a cartridge filter so I always use a torque wrench, but as far as the drainplug I have used these on my last 3 vehicles and LOVE them. I hadn't been to their site in a couple of years, so I got redirected. Formerly known as Fumoto valves.
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my car, (honda) is notorious for having stripped oil pan drain plug people don't even flinch when it's stripped, they just re-thread.

I know german cars' bolts torque specs are "guten'tight" :P but what about hyundai??? (well i'll be working on 12 elantra) is there specific torque for oil drain plug? or can i just go by 25-30 (of course i can, but i would like to know if there's any info available)


additional question : is there such a "crush washer" in the drain plugs of hyundai that is supposed to be replaced every drain??

i can't sleep i have to figure this out before i get to it lol anyone having similar symptoms?
Every car I've ever worked on has had a specific torque spec for the drain plug. I'm sure if you looked in the service manual for a German car you'd find one that wasn't just "guten'tight."

Hyundai's do have specific torque specs for drain plugs. You'll find this info at www.hyundaitechinfo.com

Hyundai makes all their service manuals and other docs available for free there. All you have to do is sign up for a free account.

Many people/shops are too lazy to look up the specs or don't have torque wrenches. I have torque wrenches and I like doing jobs properly, so I always torque my drain plugs to spec. I've never stripped one.
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