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Old 11-09-2010, 07:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just wanted to start a quick thread on what people are paying for dealer fees across the country.
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Just wanted to start a quick thread on what people are paying for dealer fees across the country.

$200 Indiana state title fee, $720 destination fee. my car was $19,949 out the door including tax, all fees, 32% tint job and free services for 5/50.
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They tried to add $100 as "Dealer Fees" and I called BS so they dropped it.
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Old 11-10-2010, 09:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
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For what its worth...

When buying a car, you should make sure the dealer specifically differentiates between the different fees as there are a lot of them and sometimes the descriptions might be vauge. If you are interested, here is a link to a site that explains the fees pretty well:

http://www.carbuyingtips.com/car3.htm

In a nutshell though, here are the only fees you should have to pay:

[b]Destination Charge - This is a legit charge, however some dealers may try to say the charge is higher than it is. Any online site, even the manufacturers website say what the Destination Charge should be. If your dealer says its different, they are scamming you, you dont want to give them your business. Its worth noting that if you get your quote through a site like Zag or Truecar, the cost already includes Destination. Dont make them make you pay it twice.

[b]Sales Tax - Sales tax is also another obvious thing you cant get out of, but some dealers have found a way to scam you if you have a tradein. If you are trading in a car, they are supposed to subtract the amount they are giving you on the trade-in from the purchase price of the car to calculate tax. So for example, lets say you are buying a $20k car, and they are giving you $10k on the trade-in, and your area has 10% sales tax. In this example, they should charge you 10% of 10k (so $1000 worth of sales tax) as opposed to 10% of the $20k of the new car. A sleazy dealer may try to charge you the full $2k on the sale price of the car, and they'll just pocket the difference without telling you.

[b]Title & Registration Fees - These are mostly unavoidable fees as they pertain to the legal documentation to register the car in your name. These fees vary by state and should be easy to determine by looking online. Once you know what these fees should be for your state, you should expect the dealer to charge you the same. In some states, its cheaper to transfer plates from an old car to a new car than to just get new plates for the new car.

[b]Documentation Fees - This ones a tough one. Doc fees really pertain to the titile and registration process, but is usually listed separately. To me, the time and effort it takes for an office worker at the dealer to fill out documentation should be part of their "cost of doing business". In the past, I've seen this fee usually somewhere between $50 - $100. If you really push the matter, you can probably get them to knock this off, but its so common, I might let it slide if everything else during your purchasing phase is going smoothly. Be careful though of dealers who disguise this fee as something like "Advertising fees" "Wholsesale fees" etc.

Sorry for the long post...but I thought if we're going to discuss "Dealer fees" we should be more specific about which fees we're talking about!
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Dealer fee was $200 but they mis quoted the payment so they dropped the fee.
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My dealer adds a fee of $600 believe it or not.
And they won't (they say they cannot) remove it from the bill of sale.
What they can do, is further reduce the price of the car by that amount, so it looks like they are still getting their $600.
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My dealer adds a fee of $600 believe it or not.
And they won't (they say they cannot) remove it from the bill of sale.
What they can do, is further reduce the price of the car by that amount, so it looks like they are still getting their $600.
THe Dealer im working with is charging a 597 Dealer fee. But are giving me the lowest price. Also has a 720 Destination Fee built into MSRP which is crap. These cars are now made in the US
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THe Dealer im working with is charging a 597 Dealer fee. But are giving me the lowest price. Also has a 720 Destination Fee built into MSRP which is crap. These cars are now made in the US
This probably wont make you feel any better, but for what its worth, Destination fees have no relevance to where a vehicle is made. Cars made in the US have had destination charges for many years. Its nothing new, and the fact that something is made here doesnt even reduce the cost.
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Old 11-10-2010, 04:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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This probably wont make you feel any better, but for what its worth, Destination fees have no relevance to where a vehicle is made. Cars made in the US have had destination charges for many years. Its nothing new, and the fact that something is made here doesnt even reduce the cost.
I understand it. Hyundai charges the dealer then the cost is just carried down. Im just going to have to work them more
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Here is a good page that shows the various fees, by state. One helpful thing it shows is the maximum document fee that are allowed in some states. Many states don't have a limit, but some do have a maximum doc fee that dealers can charge.

http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/artic...94/article.html

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