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Old 04-15-2009, 08:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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[b]Hi Guys/Girls!

I am about to get the Genesis Coupe. It comes with the Auto Down/Up window feature.

Which means that as soon as the door detects that it is being opened, the window will drop down slightly (about half an inch) to clear a "lip" at the top of the door so that you can open it.

When you close the door again, the window will automatically roll back up into the "lip" at the top of the window frame to make a tight seal.

I'm told this is to reduce cabin noise on the highway.

My question is would this feature not be so good in the winter? I mean if your windows freeze and then the window tries to automatically roll down to clear that top "lip", but it cannot come down due to freeze, what happens? Will the door be unable to be opened? Will the window mechanism get damaged?

Normally in winter if the temperature is below freezing, I never roll down my windows to prevent damaging something.

What do you guys think? Has anyone had any problems with this technology on other cars that have the same feature?

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Old 04-15-2009, 09:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They've been using it for years on other high end cars and I don't think I've ever heard of any issues. Most windows have pinch guard auto stop features so I imagine they use a similar technology in the genesis.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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QUOTE (dogstar @ Apr 15 2009, 09:35 PM)
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They've been using it for years on other high end cars and I don't think I've ever heard of any issues. Most windows have pinch guard auto stop features so I imagine they use a similar technology in the genesis.
Hmm well that's reassuring. I did a bit of research on the all knowing Google, and I found at least one guy experiencing a problem with his auto windows on a Pontiac G6.
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he said:
"I am having problems with automatic windows on my Pontiac g6 gt.
When frozen my automatic windows will not come down when I open my door; therefore the door will not close. Big design flaw!
Anyone having same problem?"


Also another guy from the same forum with his BMW he said:
"Not much you can do about it. I had this same problem with my BMW coupe and the window would freeze and pryed open a gap therefore making lots of wind noise. When the temperature warms up it will work as normal again.

If you are up to it, you need to unfreeze the window first before you open the door. Otherwise you just have to put up with the door not closing properly. It's a very retarded design."


I did more research after this, and found some suggestions to attempt to minimize this problem. The suggestion is to "winterize" your car, by spraying silicone lubricant in your window's track when you have it down that way the idea is it would slide better and minimize freezing. Also while you're at it to spray some on the door gaskets. Apparently if you do this treatment 2 to 3 times during one winter it is enough.

I'm curious if anyone has any other ideas. I am 100% sure this is going to happen to me in the winter. The windows froze on all my cars I have owned in the winter, but it has never been a problem. With the window auto down/up feature this is going to cause a huge problem for me if it freezes. So I just want to be ready.
(I'm even getting cold feet about getting the genesis coupe for this reason alone)
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My '06 Mustang has this feature and I never experienced such a problem with it during the colder winter months. It even (partially) works when the battery dies (it'll go down but not back up). I think you should be fine.
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Old 04-18-2009, 03:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I own a Miata and it is similiar in that Mazda recommends that the windows be lowered slightly on opening/closing the doors or raising/lowering the convertible top so that the window seats tightly in the weatherstripping.

I certainly don't think frozen windows would prevent the door from closing properly, just would prevent the window from seating as tight as it could in the stripping, which would increase road noise and might cause a small water leak.

I make sure the tracks the window slides in are cleaned frequently on my Miata and coat the tracks with Shin-Etsu grease. This keeps water out and keeps the rubber soft and pliable.

GM"s Michigan engineers probably didn't even think of frozen windows, why I don't buy GM products!!!!!!


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