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Anyone notice the speedometer is blocked by the steering wheel while driving?
 
#2 ·
Not as bad on our Limited than on my old Cruze, could hang a picture on it, rarely ever use it, 160 mph full scale range is absurd, greatly reduces the resolution, but does have lights on it for various functions. Can adjust the height of the steering will a little, may help. Can also move your head.

Ha, on a relative sense, far better than the one on my old Model A Ford, super tiny and could barely see it at night, had to tip my head way over because it was mounted on the center of the dash.

On another view, driven in several different countries that don't even have speed limits so didn't even need a speedometer, could be a solution for us in the USA. But we are living in the land of the free, or are we?
 
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I use the large print digital speedometer. :nerd:

One reason I use CC a lot is to keep a fairly steady legal (or close enough that I won't get stopped) speed without having to focus on the dash much. If I remember to use my bifocals that's no problem, but I drive with the progressives a lot also. I do like that I can focus at any distance with the progressives, but inside 6' the sweet spot for reading is pretty small. I can just glance down and read the dash with the bifocals, but I have to point my nose at what I want to read with the progressives. Both pairs give me good distance correction all across the top (don't have to turn my head much), but the bifocals don't have mid range - I can see the street signs for side streets from a good distance, but with the bifocals I have to get pretty close before I can read it, especially if it is in ALL CAPS and/or has low contrast. With the progressives I can read them at just about any reasonable distance. Sucks getting old, but beats the alternative...

EDIT - I have only briefly considered trifocals. I would have to pick a range for the middle (like 10' to 20' or 25' to 40') and the reading section shrinks.
 
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Had to take a second look at my Limited, all those indicator lamps are on the tach instead of the speedometer. Motorhome as a very poor dash, rely more on my GPS for speed instead of that thing. Back in the 80's all digital dash displays became very popular with some minor problems, Lexus was using an LCD screen, if the temperature dropped even close to zero, that was the end of it. EPA banned electroplating using bare copper for the ignition switch, would turn green, copper oxide, ever hear of a copper oxide rectifier. Don't know how many people were screwed laying out 900 bucks for a new dash when the problem was in the ignition switch.

Ford was using LED's, with the sun behind you, screen was washed out. GM went to fluorescent, bit better, but needed a high voltage inverter, whatever engineer that designed this thing went by the maximum power the drive transistors would dissipate at 25*C, a transistor can only hold this temperature if stuck in liquid nitrogen. Practically all manufacturers went digital, but returned to analog displays. But these are hardly true analog, input information is digital, but use a digital to analog converter to drive these voltmeters and this is what they are. Can use lookup tables to correct them, have to say they are much more accurate than the old stuff.

Hyundai, could show speed regardless of what window you are looking at on that LCD screen, improvements have been made with LCD's since the Lexus.

Ha, spend years cleaning speedometer cables, recommended lubricant was graphite, would bind the center cord, bounce the speedometer and your cruise would not work. Had to remove the dash, and this sure varies from vehicle to vehicle, disconnect the cable from the transmission, remove the cord, and blow that out with choke and carb cleaner, clean the cord with new graphite. One day I asked myself why graphite, so used clock oil instead, never dries or cakes up. Not a problem any more no speedometer cable, uses a Vss sensor instead, just have to worry about code lost in flashram. Now throttle linkage is gone, another cable that need lubricant. But returning the PCV to the TB is really dumb, its dirty and binds that vane, so one problem was replaced with another.
 
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As @Victeknical stated, there's the "tilt" option on your steering column, plus the telescoping option if you didn't know. Under the column, to the left, is the lever. Pull this down, make your up, down, forward, and away adjustments. When you have it the way you want it for optimal viewing/comfort, just push the lever back up to lock in the settings.

First car we ever owned (GM) with the telescoping/tilt options was an event. Wife didn't know about it. I'm driving. Suddenly, I start pushing/pulling the wheel while moving it up/down and looking over at her with my best horror impression. I exclaim, "Oh my God, no, the steering is broken...I can't control the car, we're gonna crash and die." :eek: :eek:

(Long story short) Once she realized what was happening...my exclamation statement about dying turned prophetic, but not as in "we," but "I." Crazy woman...after she calmed down I tried to explain...thought for a few minutes that she was gonna kill ME... :laughing:

Sometimes, when you set the hook, ya gotta reel 'em in. Regardless of the consequences, the retaliation factor...whatever the cost. In retrospect? I still consider that prank darn well worth it. :grin2:

Would I do it again if the opportunity arose? To one of the grandkids, etc? What do you think? :w00t: :59:
 
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As @Victeknical stated, there's the "tilt" option on your steering column, plus the telescoping option if you didn't know. Under the column, to the left, is the lever. Pull this down, make your up, down, forward, and away adjustments. When you have it the way you want it for optimal viewing/comfort, just push the lever back up to lock in the settings.

First car we ever owned (GM) with the telescoping/tilt options was an event. Wife didn't know about it. I'm driving. Suddenly, I start pushing/pulling the wheel while moving it up/down and looking over at her with my best horror impression. I exclaim, "Oh my God, no, the steering is broken...I can't control the car, we're gonna crash and die." :eek: :eek:

(Long story short) Once she realized what was happening...my exclamation statement about dying turned prophetic, but not as in "we," but "I." Crazy woman...after she calmed down I tried to explain...thought for a few minutes that she was gonna kill ME... :laughing:

Sometimes, when you set the hook, ya gotta reel 'em in. Regardless of the consequences, the retaliation factor...whatever the cost. In retrospect? I still consider that prank darn well worth it. :grin2:

Would I do it again if the opportunity arose? To one of the grandkids, etc? What do you think? :w00t: :59:
Nutcase!

Prolly why we get on so well...;)
 
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Ha, my 73 Fleetwood sure had a steering wheel that would go up and down and in an out real far. Could make believe it was just like that control wheel on an airplane.

But didn't make any difference how far I pulled that wheel back or how fast I was moving, that darn thing just wouldn't get off the ground!

The range on that Fleetwood was like 6", only about 2" either way on the Limited. It won't take off either, but after 44 years of development you would think it would.
 
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As a medical professional with close ties to the surgical/ICU arenas, I'm not fond of reading any thread that contains the wording "scopes and/or probes.
Me neither, scheduled tomorrow to have my head plugged into a USB port on a computer.

Also notice it stays colder a lot longer than it does temperate. Those are referred to as "ice ages". Last one covered the US to about North Carolina.
We have no idea as to how many civilizations that were planted and perished before us. But obviously they all had a can of R-12 to release CFC's into the atmosphere and made a camp fire to release CO2 to cause those huge spikes in the climate.

If Yellowstone blows its cork, this will be the end of us, but a few of us will survive and this cycle will repeat itself. Ha, if I go into my yard and exhale a little CO2, one of my trees will grab me and won't let me go.

Have an EPA that loves to pick on an LED, a cigarette, or a pilot light, but has no say over a military that can destroy the entire world, or some odd 14,000 container ships pumping out all this crap, but sure like to pick on a little 1.6 L engine.
 
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Me neither, scheduled tomorrow to have my head plugged into a USB port on a computer.



We have no idea as to how many civilizations that were planted and perished before us. But obviously they all had a can of R-12 to release CFC's into the atmosphere and made a camp fire to release CO2 to cause those huge spikes in the climate.

If Yellowstone blows its cork, this will be the end of us, but a few of us will survive and this cycle will repeat itself. Ha, if I go into my yard and exhale a little CO2, one of my trees will grab me and won't let me go.

Have an EPA that loves to pick on an LED, a cigarette, or a pilot light, but has no say over a military that can destroy the entire world, or some odd 14,000 container ships pumping out all this crap, but sure like to pick on a little 1.6 L engine.
Dang it - I lost a post where I went down memory lane about having to use a logic analyzer disassembly module and clip on probe they made in house; looked like a clamp on life support with all the wires. I was writing firmware for a hardware company and they didn't want to spring for an ICE. So they gave me that to use along with an EPROM burner and one of those little cancer casket desktop EPROM erasers. I had to reverse engineer my own code to debug it and test cycles were rather long. They were not very understanding - "then write it without bugs"... :nerd:

There have been some Yellowstone like events in the past. I think a couple of the spikes were attributed to megaton eruptions and a couple to big meteor strikes. In fact, every one of the spikes has been tied to some cataclysmic event. This time around, an overwhelming majority of scientists are convinced the event is human industry. I think they are right.
 
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My apologies for my off topic posts causing duress for anyone.

On topic, the turn signals bother me more than the speedometer, but in either case I choose that tradeoff because of my preferred steering wheel height, which is directly influenced by the height of the sliding arm rest on the console.
 
#28 ·
Just a minor inconvenience with my Limited when making a wide left turn onto a divided highway, the turn signal do not turn off where with other vehicles they do. But they are certainly loud enough so turn them off manually.

So why is this? Are the number of turns from lock to lock less than other vehicles or are there less teeth in that gear that turns them off after you straighten out the wheel?

Really haven't checked this out, just manually click them off.

For many years, all vehicles had a maximum range of 85 mph on the speedometer with very good resolution on the scale. Does Hyundai know something about our future speed limits we don't?

Keep on making the comment if they keep on dropping the speed limits won't need "D" on our AT's, "R" will do just fine. On one interstate near us dropped the limit from 70 to 55, cops had a field day, maybe they will move it back to 70 again for awhile, then drop it back to 55 so they can have another field day. On one county road near us, speed limit was 65, then dropped to 55 until somebody built a bar on that road that is only opened at night, like we need another bar. Now it's 35 mph about 3/4 a mile before and after it. 35 is only a small fraction of 160, where's my magnifying glass? Good thing we have digital.
 
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I changed my blinker setting so it does 5 times on a tap instead of 3; there is also a setting for 7. If there is a turn lane, I tap to change lanes and if it is clear to turn, I tap it again when close to the actual turn. I only set the blinker on if I am going to have to sit stopped for a bit.

The 160 bit is relevant in this discussion. The 80 is partially obscured but everything below it I can see, so I guess it really isn't a problem for me. But I never look at it.
 
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I have the base SE model and if you push the trip button, it does toggle the digital speedometer.

I prefer to have the tilt all the way down, as I would prefer the airbag hit me in the chest versus the head. By doing this, it makes the top part of the dash difficult to see, but it's the way I prefer to drive. I also can't see the turn signals.

As for the turn signals, the most annoying thing is that they blink 3-4 times after I turn it off when I accidentally turn them on.
 
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Your setup method is very gutsy...I'll give you that. Dunno if your a guy or girl...anyways, the airbag deployment must hurt like a mofo if you're a girl and that thing comes flying into your chest.

Most likely you're a guy, or so I'm willing to bet. In that case...I prefer using the steering wheel as it was designed for intended use. I wouldn't want a neck injury over improper use.
 
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Taught nine kids how to drive in vehicles like this, center arm rest goes up, a safety belt in the center, could sit next to them and if they did anything stupid could step on the brake and grab the steering wheel. No more kids to teach, grand kids are up to their parents, but sure glad this is over. With all vehicles having center consoles in them, would be totally helpless. All you can do is close your eyes and pray. Sure don't want to yell, will scare the heck out of them.

Also back then, was a lot easier to teach all the basics, because that is all they had was the basics, ha, with this knew stuff, even us old guys have problems trying to comprehend it all. Just read some of these threads.
 

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Aside from whatever seat adjustment(s) that are available, the tilt and telescoping wheel, I'm at a loss. Before these adjustments became commonplace, my 4'11" mom used a pillow on the seat for better visibility. But that may have also been to aid her in seeing over the dash as much as it was to allow her a better view the speedometer's needle on the dial.

I guess this might be on the Top 10 list of must haves when looking for a car: "Can I see the dash, comfortably?"
 
#48 ·
Could be in the common sense class of becoming familiar with all the adjustments, location of basic controls, adjusting the seat, steering wheel, mirrors, etc. in an unfamiliar vehicle even before taking it for a test drive. Hyundai dealer had no problem letting me sit in this thing alone for awhile, even sitting in the rear seat. Certainly enough was said about uncomfortable seats.

Very much a part of flight training, getting into an unfamiliar, avionics is always different and where in the heck is the fuel tank valves?



You certainly do not want to adjust your seat while flying, changes the center of gravity, puts a heck of a load on the control wheel, you can kill yourself this way, and some have died. Unbelievable, Cessna was sued and lost 7 million bucks when not only the pilot was killed, but so was his three passengers because they did not put a DO NOT ADJUST YOUR SEAT WHILE FLYING label on the dash.

In this instance, they could put a ton of warning labels on the dash, in the common sense class.

How about a label on the steering wheel in these cars, DO NOT DRIVE CROSS HANDED, COULD BE KILLED BY YOUR OWN FIST IF THE AIRBAG GOES OFF! But is someplace in the owners manual not to do this with hundreds of other warnings. Probably why they are 700 pages long now in this sue happy society we live in now.
 
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God bless the man that designed 6-way power seating. That's it. Just heaps of blessings upon his person.

Suppose we might give some of those blessings to his wife? Act I, Scrne I. {Husband enters kitchen as wife cooks breakfast.} Wife: "Mr. Smarty-Pants Engineer, why can't you design a seat I can adjust that allows me to see the dash?

This could've happened, fellas. Maybe at Nick's house! You know what they say. "Behind every great engineer is a woman rolling her eyes." :rolleyes:
 
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88 Supra has an eight way power seat, power lumbar, Limited has this, but the rear of the seat folds inward to give you a hug when making fast turns. Also has a sports mode, really stiffens up the suspension, but not an Eco like the Limited has. Does have a 160 mph speedometer, Limited also has this, but the one on the Supra can be pegged, not sure about the Limited.

When I fist opened the door on the Limited, saw those to levers to open the trunk and the gas door, Supra has that, opened the hood, same radiator cap as on the Supra with all neoprene hoses with spring clamps just like my Supra. You can tell I started to fall in love with my Limited. Saw the MVAC system in the Limited, just like my Supra can be operated either in the automatic or manual mode and a real button for switching on the interior recycling mode. just like on the Supra.

What the Limited did not have is a windshield wiper stick like the Supra has, not only one swipe of the windshield wipers, but the rear wiper as well, but can be operated in a variable intermittent mode or at various fixed speeds. Not only a washer for for the windshield, but the rear wiper and the head lamps as well. All on one stick on the Supra, a bit intimidating, but I could live without this in the Limited.

Ha, as far as this guy is concerned, if Hyundai did copy stuff from the Supra, they chose the correct car. But did leave off two things, double wishbone suspension on the front and conventional self adjusting rear calipers, cheap, reliable, and easy to repair. The rotor also had drum brakes for parking. If the Limited comes out with this, will be trading mine off.
 
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