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2017 Elantra Annoyances

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#1 ·
Two weeks now with my Elantra SE /w Tech package, and a few things that have annoyed me:

  • For some reason I can't imagine, the bluetooth volume on my phone goes to zero every time it connects to the car. I didn't even know that was possible.
  • You can't leave phone media as your primary audio source. Every time I start the car, it defaults back to XM/radio unless I shut off the audio system last time I was in the car.
  • The sensor on the passenger seat is ridiculously sensitive. It starts beeping when I have a large water bottle sitting over there, because maybe I need to buckle in that premature baby sitting next to me or something.
 
#2 ·
I have a portfolio (with legal pad, pen, calculator, etc.) laying in my passenger seat. And a small package from eBay. Nothing alerting me.

I need to check the radio thing and phone volume. I actually haven't noticed.
 
#7 ·
Regarding bluetooth volume I have the opposite problem, i.e. the ringer is insanely loud when I have an incoming call. How is that adjusted?

Regarding the passenger seat sensor I have the same problem; it beeps when my small dog sits on it. I guess I could close the seat belt over the empty seat :dry:
 
#8 ·
I guess I could close the seat belt over the empty seat :dry:
I did something similar last night. Grabbed the passenger seat belt and plugged it into my driver's-side belt receiver. No blinking seat belt warning light. Sneaky. Not safe, by any stretch of the imagination, but kinda fun to mess with it.
 
#9 ·
#10 · (Edited)
Not positive this works on a Hyundai, but it is supposed to.
FWIW this one claims to work in the 2016 Elantra; cheap enough to find out (nothing showing on eBay for the 2017)

ebay.com/itm/Hotsale-SAFTY-SEAT-BELT-BUCKLE-ALARM-STOPPER-NULL-INSERT-FOR-Almost-All-CARS-/361428679451?fits=Year%3A2016|Make%3AHyundai|Model%3AElantra&hash=item5426d3fb1b:g:ZMsAAOSwcdBWRgUa&vxp=mtr

Note: I had to disable the link because I'm new to the forum. Add the www to the front end...
 
#13 ·
Might be surprised. A lot of that stuff flies China Air Freight. The hold-up is the bottleneck leaving for China Post, their handoff to the airline, and the ceremonial U.S. Customs' backlog of stuff waiting it's turn to gain entry. Some additional delay for our northern brothers and sisters so Canadian Customs can hit them with a duty fee. :eek:

Im guessing...but that's the way I see it playing out from time of seller's ship date to date of receipt.

At least it gets here a day earlier. :blush:
 
#16 · (Edited)
Glad someone started this thread. There's a bunch of annoying small details.

The only place to plug in a smartphone is the front USB outlet, but the tray is too small to comfortably fit a smartphone, and putting it on the center near the shifter causes it to slide around. I have to close the tray door most of the way and balance the phone on top of it.

The stereo un-mutes itself. I can't reliably establish when, I think it's when CarPlay is on and either switching apps or finishing a voice command, and the radio resumes unprompted.

The switch on left side of steering wheel to scroll through the presets flips direction when the radio screen is showing; normally you click up to go to the next preset and down to the previous, but when the radio screen is showing the next preset is DOWN the list meaning the switch flips it's directions. Very frustrating to have to mentally reverse your habits when the display is on radio mode or a different one. Bad UI

When using CarPlay, there's no quick way to get to it from the menus or map screen. The media button does nothing at all, the maps button jumps to the built-in maps rather than the CarPlay Apple Maps, the phone button goes right to phone, but there's no quick way to get to the CarPlay main menu without going to the system menu and navigating over to CarPlay. If I just wanted to adjust the Music or podcast or Pandora apps, I have to tap through several screens and wait for each one to load first. This is quite distracting when trying to drive.

The display in front of the drivers instruments is useless for audio as well as CarPlay. It will tell me I'm listening to XM but not the song title (the main display will tell you). It will give me a generic CarPlay when one of the apps is playing, despite the main display showing the title and progress.

The built-in maps have really tiny font throughout the system on the main display, and a hair-thin vertical progress bar when showing how much time before the turn or exit. There's no need to hide this important stuff, nor for me to squint while driving.
 
#17 ·
I've found carplay very easy to use over the last couple weeks. When I press the maps, it takes me to AppleMaps, instead of the built in navigation, I've done this plenty of times. Also, my media button takes me to all my music from my iPhone. I do have iTunes Match service, not sure if that is the difference or not. I'm sure CarPlay will evolve and get better over time. Apple should be announcing new iOS version on Monday, and maybe they will upgrade things with CarPlay, since it can be done through the phone and not have to deal with Hyundai updates. Hope things get better.
 
#18 ·
This isn't exactly an annoyance, but I wonder why Hyundai chose to put drum brakes on the rear of the SE instead of discs (as they did on the Limited trim)? Is this a cost savings or is it just a way of creating a perception that Limited is better?

Is there any functional difference in braking effectiveness between having four discs Vs two discs in front and two drums in back?
 
#20 ·
Money, plain and simple. Cheaper to install. Plus they hop people will jump to higher trims to get 4 wheel disks.


But in all honesty, there is nothing wrong with a good set of drum brakes on the rear. But it is a real turn off for many.
 
#19 ·
Not sure if it was a cost savings or a way to drive sales toward the Limited.

no advantage on the street.

On a track car, you might have less brake fade with discs on all 4-wheels, or if you were doing multiple 100-0 hard braking stops.

On most any car the front brakes do 90% of the stopping anyway.

IMHO - the advantages of 4-wheel disc, in order of importance:

  • Possibly less issues with ice and snow and lubrication - although I'm not sure of this and it really doesn't apply to me.
  • Looks better if you have an open pattern alloy wheel - but flat black rustoleum on the drums to hide rust makes up for most of this.
  • Easier to inspect since you only have to pull the wheel and not the drum also - but rear brakes usually last 60K miles or more.
  • Much easier to service since you don't have to deal with return springs - but you only do this every 60K miles or so, so not a huge deal.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Love my discs. Always was envious of wife's Volvo with 4-wheel discs. What a joy to change...while my 85 CRX Si had rear drums. Not so much of a joy. I was tempted to take the rear discs off a salvage yard Acura Integra and mod the CRX. Supposedly a perfect swap. Rear geometry was a bit different and rear weight, but it was the "stopping" effect that needed watching.

4-wheel discs look awesome behind slotted (open pattern) rims, as @Tiger-Heli alluded to. Couldn't agree more!!!! :grin:

Q: Could a SE owner get the rear wheel discs off a 2011-16 and convert? Might take a bit of researching. After the warranty expires, however. But if you're gonna go to all that trouble, why not just buy an Ultimate and be done with it?
 
#23 ·
I was tempted to take the rear discs off a salvage yard Acura Integra and mod the CRX. Supposedly a perfect swap.
I've seen this discussed on several forums and a few people have done it successfully. It's the type thing I typically do, but you are spending a fair amount of money and 3-4 or more hours labor to save maybe an additional 30 minutes of work every 60-100K miles ...

Rear geometry was a bit different and rear weight, but it was the "stopping" effect that needed watching.
Again - in normal driving there is no advantage to rear discs, in fact rear drums might be a bit better in stopping distance. Not so much in fade resistance, but that isn't the issue.

Q: Could a SE owner get the rear wheel discs off a 2011-16 and convert? Might take a bit of researching. After the warranty expires, however. But if you're gonna go to all that trouble, why not just buy an Ultimate and be done with it?
Not sure, but I'm fairly sure you could fit the AD Limited Discs on an SE - might have to change the proportioning valve or similar, but probably not.

But as you said - if it is THAT important to you - it probably makes more sense to just get a Limited Base or better to start with.

Oddly - I've gone back and forth on them. Hate the drums on my Focus (for reasons above), although after I painted them they don't bother me as much. Originally I didn't like the Accent base b/c it had drums and didn't like the way the Accent Style rode with 16's. Now, all the cars I am considering (Accent, AD Elantra SE, Corolla, Focus, Fiesta) have rear drum brakes, but they are easier to change than my Focus.
 
#22 ·
It slightly depends on the car also.

On most Hyundais, Hondas, Toyotas, etc. - the drum is just held on by the lug nuts. They can get stuck on the hub, and the shoes can wear a groove in them, making them difficult to remove and inspect - but you typically only need to do that every 20-30K miles, so not a big issue.

On the Gen 1 and Gen 2 Ford Focus and many European cars, there is a not that holds the drum on and also holds the bearing on and the nut can only be removed and re-tightened 4-5 times and then needs to be replaced, and the replacement nuts are around $15 each, so a bit less convenient.
 
#27 ·
Is anyone else having trouble with the factory voice command? There's been a few times I forgot my USB cable for my iPhone but I try to tell the car to call whoever and it seems to take a while and 8/10 times it gets it wrong. My 2013 Elantra GLS was always on point never failed me once. I'm kinda disappointed by Hyundai with their stock voice command
 
#29 ·
Initially, first 3 weeks, or so, ABSOLUTELY YES. L

However, I have only used my USB cable to charge the phone once. I rely primarily on Bluetooth. The microphone (where lever they put it, I don't where!!!) wa me not my friend when it came to voice recognition. I have learned, since, that the system begins to learn your voice over time.

I'm finding it very receptive to my commands, now. Once in a while I have to back it up and try again. But not that often. It's tolerable.
 
#32 ·
One more thing I forgot to add: The power output on the USB port is pretty low. Enough to keep it running Maps and an audio app, but it doesn't charge much on top of that. This might not be terrible right now, but as power requirements grow over time, this may become an issue. It could be mitigated with a reverse split USB cable and lighter power adapter, I suppose. Although by then it'll need to be a USB-C version.

On a happier note: I do really like the little trip summary that shows up when you go into park.
 
#56 ·
Now, THAT, is my biggest issue on the voice recognition. My dad is listed as "Dad", in the contacts. Whenever I give it the prompt, I'll get a list of folks with the "D" as the first letter. Gets annoying.

Hasn't done it too much, lately. Maybe the voice recognition software "learn mode" is working. :eek:
 
#38 ·
I'm not an owner (yet) so here are my annoyances as a prospective buyer:

1) No disc brakes in rear. I know, I know - there's likely no difference in performance but it just feels cheap and like a step backwards.

2) No fold down rear center armrest on SE. ^See annoyance #1 for reason

3) Sunroof only offered on the 2nd to highest trim/package. I'd justify the cost of the limited, but Limited+tech package ($26K) just for a sunroof is too much. Would be nice if it was an option on the SE.

4) Same on-paper horsepower/mpg as previous model. Although it sounds like the newer model is better at hitting its numbers.

I'll add more as I'm thinking of it...
 
#42 ·
  • For some reason I can't imagine, the bluetooth volume on my phone goes to zero every time it connects to the car. I didn't even know that was possible.
  • You can't leave phone media as your primary audio source. Every time I start the car, it defaults back to XM/radio unless I shut off the audio system last time I was in the car.
  • The sensor on the passenger seat is ridiculously sensitive. It starts beeping when I have a large water bottle sitting over there, because maybe I need to buckle in that premature baby sitting next to me or something.
1. Me too! It doesn't happen every time, but it does happen. I have a Nexus 6P, and I thought it might be more my phone's issue. I wonder what you use.

2. Yeah. I've started turning off the audio by hitting the volume knob if I remember, before I leave the car.

3. Haven't put anything heavy on the passenger seat yet.
 
#47 ·
While we're on things that annoy us...

I've given myself a few days to become familiar with all the settings on the head unit. Mostly use CarPlay, which I like although my third party podcast app (Overcast) seems buggy and oversimplified (I guess because it's a hands-free thing). Hoping we'll see some improvements to CarPlay announced soon (Apple's software developer conference is next week).

One thing I must be missing - in the radio, is there an easy way to selectively or completely delete favorites? If there is, I'm missing it, and can't find it in the manual(s). The car came preloaded with all kinds of XM and standard radio presets I don't want, would be nice to start fresh.

Usually I think I'm ok with discovering these things, but today I'm feeling like Grandma with the VCR display blinking 12:00.....
 
#50 ·
One thing I must be missing - in the radio, is there an easy way to selectively or completely delete favorites? If there is, I'm missing it, and can't find it in the manual(s). The car came preloaded with all kinds of XM and standard radio presets I don't want, would be nice to start fresh.
I don't know how to delete the existing presets, but it's very easy to replace them, ie just tune whatever station you want to set and then touch and briefly hold the preset number you want to assign.
 
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