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I think I read the Purolator white can, but I think I read that from either you or maybe @Old's Cool, so ...

I'd avoid any filters without a silicone ADBV - not b/c I think that is important, but b/c the filters with silicone ADBV tend to be better quality overall.
S'not me. I used to like Purolators. But when I started working at CarQuest I found the store brand was Wix and started using those. Same or cheaper than Frams but better quality.

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I've taken Fram filters out of the box and found big chunks of glue around the oil passages that flake off with my fingernail... seems like shoddy quality control to me. I just stick with Hyundai/Kia filters, they're easy enough to get on Amazon or eBay.

$6 at the dealer.

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For all their oil changes, including the turbo models?? Because that oil is only rated for GF-5, not A5/B5 with the 1.6T needs.

Mine uses 5w 30 syn blend as well. Brand varies as they have used Quaker State, Havoline, and Castrol in mine. Just depends on what they have on hand.


Oil changes at my dealership are $29.95 for the above syn blend.

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I've taken Fram filters out of the box and found big chunks of glue around the oil passages that flake off with my fingernail... seems like shoddy quality control to me. I just stick with Hyundai/Kia filters, they're easy enough to get on Amazon or eBay.
The only Fram filter I use is the Fram Ultra full synthetic filter on my Charger 392. Is very well made not like there other ones. Cost a bit more to at $9.

For The Tucson I take it right to the dealer for a $29 oil change. Included a free wash too.
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I use the Fram Ultras - you can get them for $6 each if you buy them in groups of 6 on E-bay.

And chunks of glue probably won't hurt the engine, but it is bad QC.


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I buy Wix/Mann from rock auto all times and pretty happy with that. I also buy my own oil Mobil 1 0w30/40 in winter and 5w40/50 for summer and dealer does job with zero questions. You feel free to maintain your car wherever place you want to and it will not affect your warranty!If you are not sure, see the lawyers advice....

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You're right, sorry I didn't read that this was for the 2.0 NA model, which can take GF4 or Higher conventional motor oil.

The 1.6T takes A5/B5 spec oil, which I can't seem to find in a conventional oil, only full synthetic.
I guess it depends on the dealer. I asked them specifically for synthetic for my US 1.6T (what I assumed it required). After checking, they stated my 1.6T actually called for conventional (5w30) - although IT CAN take synthetic. Got the change and tire rotation/mutli point check for free with my first service so didn't push the matter.
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I use the Fram Ultras - you can get them for $6 each if you buy them in groups of 6 on E-bay.

And chunks of glue probably won't hurt the engine, but it is bad QC.
The Fram XG3593A is 1/3" longer and cheaper. Same specs

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I guess it depends on the dealer. I asked them specifically for synthetic for my US 1.6T (what I assumed it required). After checking, they stated my 1.6T actually called for conventional (5w30) - although IT CAN take synthetic. Got the change and tire rotation/mutli point check for free with my first service so didn't push the matter.
It's not so much about synthetic vs convention vs synthetic blend. It's the properties of the oil that matter. It's a very low viscosity oil with a high temperature and high shear rating. It's designed for modern low friction cars. The engineers specified oil that meets A5/B5 specification, probably because certain parts of your engine need it or might hit certain temperatures etc.....

You could use conventional oil if it met the ACEA A5/B5 spec, but I haven't seen a conventional oil that meets that spec.

I doubt the service manager knows better than the engineers. They're likely trying to maximize profits because oil changes don't pay that much otherwise. Dealers are independently owned and with the competitiveness of modern car sales, they don't make too much money off new car sales anymore. If they sell 40 cars per month, and only make $1000-$2000 per transaction, that not enough to cover the payroll for all their employees. I know many new car dealers actually make more money on their used lots, which is why they won't haggle over trade in value anymore. They can make several thousand off a used SUV trade in. Some dealers actually make the most off their service department, by padding parts prices and services.
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The Fram XG3593A is 1/3" longer and cheaper. Same specs
6-PACK BRAND NEW FRAM XG3593A ULTRA SYNTHETIC OIL FILTER UP TO 15,000 MILES | eBay

NOW you tell me ...

I've been using the XG9688, which I think was designed for Hyundai. I think the XG3593A might be for Honda's also - might have a different relief pressure, not that it likely matters.

Anyway, I'm good for 30K miles and then I'll figure out what to do next purchase ...


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