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Hi there, I am 36 years old and I am located in Canada. I am here to get some more information on the current generation Hyundai Tucson 2.0L for my mom. She's 65 years old, lives alone (dad's died several years ago) and she currently own a 2013 Chevrolet Trax LT AWD which is, except for the drivability and fuel economy (1.4L Turbo), the worst vehicle I ever see as for the reliability. So now it's time for a trade-up even if the Trax is just 4 years old (and 60,000 KM only!).

My mom is hesitating actually between the Hyundai Tucson, the Honda CR-V and the Toyota Rav4. All 4WD of course. The main advantage she (and I) found in the Tucson SE 2.0L AWD is for the same price, it's WAY MORE equipped than Honda and Toyota and also the vehicle look's better. :-)

We got some pretty good feedbacks of current owners from family and friends, but in the other hand, I work myself in IT for 16 years ago and I also work as a professional product evaluator/tester for computer & electronics stuffs, so I am very used to doing extensive research online on a specific products, in this case, the Hyundai Tucson and also the Hyundai brand in general and this is "where the rubber hits the road", because as from what I read/ear, there's two types of Hyundai owner (let's consider the 3 years old vehicles only), you have the highly satisfied owners on one side and you have the EXTREMELY unsatisfied owners on the other side (legal procedure, etc). It look like the highest cause of complaint is warranty coverage issue, where for any wacky reasons Hyundai Motors refuse to cover something under the normal warranty. I also read a lot of complaints reports where Hyundai did not succeed to fix electronics issues on latest generation vehicle such as self-braking system that fail or entire engine that fails. I remember reading myself in a major local newspaper last year that the owner of a 2014 Elantra where engine fails (excessive oil and knocking) after only 50,000 KM and where Hyundai refuse to cover any warranty repair because the owner get oil changed at local mechanics shop (professional shop with certifications) instead of the Hyundai dealer and even if the owner keep all proofs and invoices of oil changes and very good maintenance. But after the owner posted a compromising video on YouTube and shared A LOT on Facebook and Twitter, Hyundai Canada magically returned his call and then cover the engine under full warranty + other compensations... Is it really that kind of company??

So please, I want to ear your voice. Good or bad comments as well! Please ask yourself : would you recommend a brand new Hyundai vehicle (the Tucson in this case) to your own mom for the next 7-8 years??

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The honda Naturally Aspirated model has a new offset piston design since 2015, which causes alot of vibration at idle and at certain rpm's. It's not a reliability issue, just an annoyance. The 1.5L turbo is a new engine, but many people are happy with it so far.

My dad, also 65, has a 2015 RAV4, he loves it. My last car was a toyota hybrid, it was bulletproof. I trade my cars at 150k-200k miles and it had zero problem in that time, I never even had to replace the brakes on that car thanks to regenerative braking and my mostly highway commute.

I have a 16 Tucson eco and I love it with the 1.6 turbo engine gets great fuel economy and tons of low end power. I don't think I would love the 2.0L engine and poor fuel economy on the base model. If the 2.0L got good fuel economy, it would make more sense, but it actually gets worse fuel economy and has less power.

If honda would have had the turbo CRV out when I bought my car, I would have gotten the CRV depending on price. It has more cargo room.

The Ford Escape is also not a bad vehicle. Ford's quality is better than GM's in my opinion. My previous ford was excellent and since the escape is simply a refreshed design, the value is probably a good proposition.

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Thanks gggplaya! Well the fuel mileage isn't that much a point of decision for my mom because she drive no more than 12,000 KM per year (7500 miles) so even with an H2 Hummer she would not spend so much gas usually... the point of decision is all of reliability. Based on my research on the Tucson, most drivetrain issues complains was for the 1.6T and I see less on the 2.0, but maybe it's because the 1.6T is mostly sold. The final purchase price also count a bit, because if you take a base LX CRV AWD, in Canada, you'll spend 32,000$ net price (+ sales taxes) and the CRV LX doesn't come really equipped, except for a backup camera, it's a very "basic" vehicle. The Toyota RAV4 LE AWD also trade for 32,000$ net price in Canada (+ sales taxes), so obviously it's face to face between Toyota and Honda. Moreover both are not offering any insensitive and have high interest rates.

With the Hyundai Tucson, you get the 2.0 SE AWD for 30,000$ net price (without taxes) but you get a very luxury vehicle, with panoramic sunroof, full leather interior, heated front, rear, steering and much much more... now, Hyundai Canada offer many insensitive, 0% interest rates up to 84 months and the local dealers has a lot of flexibility to offer in-house bonuses like winter tires (+wheels), remote starters and much more. Do try to get any bonuses with a Toyota... I already purchased a brand new Toyota Matrix back in 2006, so I know how it work with Toyota... it's "take it or leave it"! Retail price is indicated on window label and it's the price you'll pay for.
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Wow yea, I'd get the Hyundai then. The only complaint with the 1.6T is not actually the engine, it's the dual clutch transmission attached to it. Works great for me, but others are having issues. The 2.0L has a traditional 6 speed automatic transmission.

Here in the states the CRV LX and the Tucson base 2.0L are similarly equipped with basically not much at all. They also cost about the same except Hyundai always has better financing deals.
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Wow yea, I'd get the Hyundai then. The only complaint with the 1.6T is not actually the engine, it's the dual clutch transmission attached to it. Works great for me, but others are having issues. The 2.0L has a traditional 6 speed automatic transmission.

Here in the states the CRV LX and the Tucson base 2.0L are similarly equipped with basically not much at all. They also cost about the same except Hyundai always has better financing deals.
Yes you are right, sorry for my mistake, as most complaints effectively point the dual clutch transmission, not on the engine itself. By the way I don't know if the dual clutch trans of a Hyundai is the same as a dual clutch of a Volkswagen, but replacing a Volkswagen DSG transmission, out of warranty, is near of 10K$ for a refurbished!

You are also right, the CRV LX and the base Tucson have similar very basic equipment, but my point is for less than the price of the CRV LX AWD (32K$) you can get the Tucson SE (30K$) which is not the base model, it's the middle-range model just before the Ultimate model and it have the panoramic sunroof, the full leather interior (heated everywhere), LED headlights and much more. The Ultimate only get larger alloy wheels, navigation, infinity sound and smart key over this SE model. But I am aware that sometime the model naming are not the same between US and CAN, so maybe my explanations are confusing.
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An SE in Canada gets you leather and sunroof?

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An SE in Canada gets you leather and sunroof?
Correct!

In the Canadian brochure the AWD comes in 3 trims only :

1. Premium (aka base) (29K$)
2. SE (30K$)
3. Ultimate (33K$)

Except if there's an error, as I don't have an official quotation from the dealer yet, this is on the brochure and Canada website...
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That's not a very big spread for those 3 trims. The ultimate is about the same price as the limited here, but you have to add the ultimate package to the limited which makes it about $34k.

They did add the SE PLUS this year which slots in between the sport and Limited for $28,200(AWD). It's got all the bells and whistles including leather and navigation(android auto), with heated seats, but no sunroof.

The added the Night edition which is just above the SE plus but below the Limited for $29,200(AWD). But that adds the 1.6T engine and loses the navigation(android auto) and loses the dual zone climate control and goes back to cloth seats.

But the kicker here is the cheap price of the SE base model is $24,100 (AWD) which is comparably equipped to the Honda CRV LX. I guess Hyundai needs a certain minimum price from these cars in Canada to be profitable, and they're taking lower margins on higher trims.
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True. Actually there's a VERY SMALL gap between models... for example the cheaper model with AWD is 29K$ CAD and the superior model with leather and sunroof is 30,800$... so for 1800$ you get full leather and a panoramic sunroof, power seats and automatic climate controls. As the "base" AWD model already comes with touchscreen radio, backup camera, line guidance and blindspot radar, this 30,800$ CAD model is definitely a must over any base model from Toyota or Honda that cost around 1200$ more!
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